Zone1 Reasons why atheists don't want to believe there is a God

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At heart, most atheists are essentially Lucifarian in their beliefs, whether they are aware of it or not.

That’s seems harsh. What about Hindus?

 

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The more interesting question to ask an atheist is, "Do you hope you are right about God and the (absence of an) afterlife?"

If you are right then life has no meaning. There is no reason to be "good," kind, charitable, honest, fair, or considerate. No reason to leave a tip in an establishment where you will never go again. No reason not to cheat on your taxes. No reason to tell, for example, the truth to an insurance adjuster. No reason to be faithful to your spouse.

You SHOULD BE a sociopath, concerned only with "will I get caught?" and what are the risks of my selfish behavior?

Atheists respond, "Well, if fear of punishment is your only reason for being good, you are a moral cripple. I don't need any of that to be generous." But the response is in the facts. You [the atheist, statistically speaking] are not generous. Atheists do nothing for their fellow man, nothing to charity, and so on.

Wouldn't it be a better world if EVERYONE believed in God, and believed in a reward for virtue in the afterlife and punishment of evil in the afterlife?

The answer is obvious.

Look all you want at religious fanatics doing foolish and harmful things. Any belief system can be perverted to self-aggrandizing ends. But believers do more good in a day than all the atheists in the world to in their collective lifetimes. China is a good illustration of what happens when nobody believes in anything. They will cheat you blind without giving it a second thought. I could give a dozen examples, headed, of course, by theft of intellectual property, which is a national policy.

I’m not sure that is correct.

 

[MisterBeale]

That’s seems harsh. What about Hindus?

Nope, not really.

These are Lucifarian values. . . which are not the priority among Hindus.

What Are the Principles of Luciferianism?

Luciferianism, sometimes confused with Satanism, is a belief system that holds many of the same principles as Rennaissance humanism.

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Nine Beliefs of Hinduism - Hinduism Today

Our beliefs determine our thoughts and attitudes about life, which in turn direct our actions. By our actions, we create our destiny. Beliefs about sacred

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Nope, not really.

These are Lucifarian values. . . which are not the priority among Hindus.

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That doesn’t sound like devil worship to me. In fact, that pretty much describes our founding fathers.

What about Hindus? How do you feel about them?

 

[MisterBeale]

That doesn’t sound like devil worship to me. In fact, that pretty much describes our founding fathers.

What about Hindus? How do you feel about them?

Satanism and Lucifaranism are distinct beliefs, and they are different.

. . . and although some of our founders were humanist and deist in their thinking, the great majority of them were devout in obedience to the law of the creator, not man's laws.

This is known as "natural law."

I already addressed Hindus in a previous post.

I don't see much difference between Hindus and Unitarians, except some trivial beliefs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your logic is impeccably WRONG

Haha, you couldn't describe what "logic" you are talking about if your life depended on it. You were in need of words for an outburst, and these just happened to be the ones that fizzled into your mind.

 

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Satanism and Lucifaranism are distinct beliefs, and they are different.

. . . and although some of our founders were humanist and deist in their thinking, the great majority of them were devout in obedience to the law of the creator, not man's laws.

This is known as "natural law."

I already addressed Hindus in a previous post.

I don't see much difference between Hindus and Unitarians, except some trivial beliefs.

I see. Do you believe you are an enlightened person?

 

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Another pile of nonsense. If you guys could stop just making stuff up, that would be great.

It takes two to tango. I’m sure you see yourself as noble when you do the same things.

 

[0311]

And it shows too.

You’ll be much happier and successful in life if you become less judgmental and more curious.

I am happy as I am. YOU people ******* judgmental. YOU people are full of hate. YOU people think YOU have the right to decide who and cannot get married based on the the gender of the couple. YOU people practice hate. FYI all of Antisemitic so-called "Christians", Yeshua (proper Spelling) Was a JEW.

You ******* people talk the importance of morals, then turn around and vote for serial womanizer who paid both a porn actress and a playboy model. You vote for convicted felon. A man who had over twenty women accuse him of sexual abuse, sexual assault and sexual harassment. A man who boasted of grabbing women by "their *****'. Take your morals and stuff them

The shear amount bullshit you people post....hate Gays, hate Muslims...attack Blacks and Latinos. So much for the love your myth books calls on to practice.

 

[MisterBeale]

I see. Do you believe you are an enlightened person?

What any one person believes about themselves, in the end, is of very little practical significance.

Questions such as that are really quite meaningless from my perspective.

I know that I know nothing - Wikipedia

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[0311]

Notice these guys all just make shit up instead of responding to the actual things atheists say.

It's a sign that their own faith is dubious and shaky.

They have their very own Department of Making Shit UP. They have no real core values, just bs slogans.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They have their very own Department of Making Shit UP. They have no real core values, just bs slogans.

Because the only common, core value is selfishness. It's about getting one's self a ticket to the forever festival.

If no such threat/promise were made as part of the mythology, we would never have heard of Christianity.

 

[ding]

What any one person believes about themselves, in the end, is of very little practical significance.

Questions such as that are really quite meaningless from my perspective.

I know that I know nothing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But I’m guessing that you do believe you are enlightened. Just like I am guessing you believe you are sovereign, self reliant and oppose tyranny.

 

[0311]

But I’m guessing that you do believe you are enlightened. Just like I am guessing you believe you are sovereign, self reliant and oppose tyranny.

It hard to enlightened and be an ignorant immoral asshole.

 

[MisterBeale]

But I’m guessing that you do believe you are enlightened. Just like I am guessing you believe you are sovereign, self reliant and oppose tyranny.

 

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Because the only common, core value is selfishness. It's about getting one's self a ticket to the forever festival.

If no such threat/promise were made as part of the mythology, we would never have heard of Christianity.

I don’t know anyone who does that. In fact most people behave like that isn’t a concern at all.

My question to you is can’t you see that you are doing what you hate when other people do that to you?

 

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All I’m suggesting is that the characterization you used pretty much applies to everyone.

 

[Cougarbear]

We know the Magical, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man is NOT real. That is the only reason. He is ******* lie.

YOU and people like YOU need to justify your belief in a non-existent being by attack those like myself who chose to think for ourselves. YOU are to narrow minded to accept the fact that people can actually believe your non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son do not exist. So you bullshit reasons that are not in anyway, shape or form real. What YOU believe in is NO SKY MAN. Never has been and never will be. YOU do not get decide why I chose not to. I know why i don't, you believe in a lie and I do not.

I know many atheists who simply don't believe in God. But, unlike you, they also are open minded to the fact people do have beliefs in their God and don't attempt to belittle them with closemindedness like yourself. In the small congregation that I attend, we have a couple of spouses of devout members and believers in God and Jesus Christ who are atheists. They are accepted as friends and we don't belittle them for not believing. They come out to our socials including Christmas programs. Or, if there is something special for the family, children they will also attend.
You are a pathetic unhappy little midget who thinks they will score some points with someone by communicating the way you do belittling others of faith in God. May God teach you patience and love. Because you have none of either.

 

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It hard to enlightened and be an ignorant immoral asshole.

Are you making a moral argument?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

We know the Magical, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man is NOT real. That is the only reason. He is ******* lie.

YOU and people like YOU need to justify your belief in a non-existent being by attack those like myself who chose to think for ourselves. YOU are to narrow minded to accept the fact that people can actually believe your non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son do not exist. So you bullshit reasons that are not in anyway, shape or form real. What YOU believe in is NO SKY MAN. Never has been and never will be. YOU do not get decide why I chose not to. I know why i don't, you believe in a lie and I do not.

Atheists are an angry bunch. Yet you haunt the RELIGION forum HOPING someone will convince you that you have a Creator and will answer to Him when your time here ends