Zone1 Reasons why atheists don't want to believe there is a God

[Mac-7]

For starters:

1. They would have to consider that they may be morally accountable to something greater than themselves

2. They would have to consider what happens to them upon death, and the possibility of them being judged for their actions in this life (for example, if I was a murderer or a rapist, I would probably be hoping that there is no God, and that I cease to exist upon death)

Most atheist libs are not murderers

They are just spiritually empty and jealous of others who do have a greater purpose in life

 

[Meriweather]

YOU need to. YOU have nothing without it. YOU are afraid to think for yourself.

I need to? Ask yourself this: Do you need to have a best friend? Do you need to have both a mother and a father?

No, of course you don't. But when they are present, they usually bring blessings to your life. The same is true of God.

Next, thinking for oneself is a piece of cake. This is what is hard: Have you ever worked to understand how other people think? Have you ever tried to think as a Supreme Being might think? Is it fair to have my doubts about you, as you are plainly clueless about what I am thinking and how I think. After all, you're thinking for only yourself, by only yourself, about me. I expect, based on actual experience, that's because of how difficult it is to try to understand how and what another is thinking.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most atheist libs are not murderers

They are just spiritually empty and jealous of others who do have a greater purpose in life

Hahahahaha

Well, if religious people are skilled at anything, it's self-delusion...

 

[Papageorgio]

Consider this: Throughout history there are stories of great nations (some mentioned in the Bible) of the end result when people decided everyone should just do whatever they felt was right for themselves personally. This is not a new idea thought up by modern man. After thousands of years of trying this, can a different result be expected? What say you?

Is it a good policy for teachers or businesses to tell their students/employees, "Do whatever you feel is right and all will work out for the best." ?

Is it good policy to make people believe or make them not believe in God?

 

[Mac-7]

Hahahahaha

Well, if religious peolpe are skilled at anything, it's self-delusion...

Did someone try to save your soul and that has put you in a permanent rage against God?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did someone try to save your soul and that has put you in a permanent rage against God?

I dont have any rage against god. I have indifference. But I notice you have to make up a lot of ridiculous things to bolster and to justify your childish faith to yourself. That shows me your faith is shaky.

Very shaky.

 

[Robert W]

We know the Magical, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man is NOT real. That is the only reason. He is ******* lie.

YOU and people like YOU need to justify your belief in a non-existent being by attack those like myself who chose to think for ourselves. YOU are to narrow minded to accept the fact that people can actually believe your non-existent Sky Man and his Bastard Son do not exist. So you bullshit reasons that are not in anyway, shape or form real. What YOU believe in is NO SKY MAN. Never has been and never will be. YOU do not get decide why I chose not to. I know why i don't, you believe in a lie and I do not.

Enjoy eternal death. Come to think of it, you sound dead already. No human can reason with you.

 

[citygator]

Meh. I choose to believe but I 100% get the allure of atheism. It’s a pretty wacky idea that some supernatural being is hanging around but wont give you a clear sign he is real.. like a sign hanging on the moon that says “look suckers, read my book”.

So I don’t think the OP’s argument holds up.

First. There is no evidence that religious folks are any more ethical than non-religious people. In fact, Christianity is built around the idea that the faithful are generally pretty bad and can only be saved through Jesus. It’s like the default.

Second. It’s probably scarier to think when you die you just stop existing than it is you’ll have to answer for the things you did wrong when billions of people are much worse than you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Meh. I choose to believe but I 100% get the allure of atheism. It’s a pretty wacky idea that some supernatural being is hanging around but wont give you a clear sign he is real.. like a sign hanging on the moon that says “look suckers, read my book”.

So I don’t think the OP’s argument holds up.

First. There is no evidence that religious folks are any more ethical than non-religious people. In fact, Christianity is built around the idea that the faithful are generally pretty bad and can only be saved through Jesus. It’s like the default.

Second. It’s probably scarier to think when you die you just stop existing than it is you’ll have to answer for the things you did wrong when billions of people are much worse than you.

I definitely believe many self identifying theists are actually atheists, but they are hedging their bets.

 

[Meriweather]

Is it good policy to make people believe or make them not believe in God?

My personal philosophy is that it may be best for people to first seek and find God on their own. This does not mean forego church or religious education, it simply means it's not necessary for it to be the greater priority. I have noticed at least two ways of seeking God. First is incorporating the Laws of God (Ten Commandments) into one's life. It appears that often the love of His laws leads to love of God. The other way is love of God (especially through Jesus). It also appears the love of God/Jesus leads to love of His law. While I'm not sure of other religions, a strong underpinning is obedience--or sturdy self-discipline--is the hallmark of Judaism and Christianity.

I doubt anyone can be made to believe. My own belief has been bolstered by two things: First, following God's Word/Law leads to a strong, joyful life. (This does not mean without hardship or without sorrow. There is still plenty of both.) God's word is here to guide us, not for Him to catch us doing anything wrong. He wants what is best for us. Second, prayer has led to experience of God--and experience definitely solidifies belief. For me, this did not come about overnight. It took decades. Scripture is not kidding when it says a day is like a thousand years to God; a thousand years like a day.

There are atheists in my family. When my husband found he just could not believe in God, his decision was he thought he would rather go through this life on his own, with no help from God. (He's a good man, by the way.) He said if there is a God, the only thing he thought he could offer him was truth: "I found I could not believe in you, and so the only thing I have to offer you is the truth about the state of my belief. I did not pretend to believe something that I found impossible to believe. So I did my best to be good on my own."

 

[Meriweather]

Meh. I choose to believe but I 100% get the allure of atheism. It’s a pretty wacky idea that some supernatural being is hanging around but wont give you a clear sign he is real.. like a sign hanging on the moon that says “look suckers, read my book”.

I do love the Bible, but "Read my book" isn't God's message to us. Instead it is, "Talk to me." (Many call this prayer.) Try to set aside a portion of each day to have a serious talk with God. Do this, even on days you don't feel like talking, so the habit isn't broken.

 

[Mack The Finger]

How do

We know the Magical, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man is NOT real. That is the only reason. He is ******* lie.

How do you know He is in the sky ?

Who invented numbers ? (no beginning, no end)

 

[Mac-7]

I dont have any rage against god. I have indifference. But I notice you have to make up a lot of ridiculous things to bolster and to justify your childish faith to yourself. That shows me your faith is shaky.

Very shaky.

You are a liar

If you were indifferent you would not be posting on this thread at all

 

[BreezeWood]

After thousands of years of trying this, can a different result be expected? What say you?

not when the religions are based on forgeries lies and fallacies - using false heavenly perceptions to deceive the unsuspecting to believe the errors they have written in their bibles.

 

[ding]

To me the answer is different for each person. Each person is unique and has had their own experiences and expectations which has shaped their choices. Rather than being judgmental about their choices and making it personal, we should be curious instead without judgement without making it personal. It’s not hard to do as long as we remember that they are people the same as us. So while we are all unique with different experiences and expectations, we are all traveling the same journey.

To me the more important question is why do the choices of others offend us if we are secure in our choices?

And in case no one noticed, this post was not addressed to just atheists. It was addressed to theists as well. Is it really that hard to do unto others as we would have them do unto us?

Be curious, not judgmental. You’ll be much happier and successful in your journey.

 

[BreezeWood]

First is incorporating the Laws of God (Ten Commandments) into one's life.

- proof their religion is based on forgeries lies and fallacies - moses the liar madeup those commandments they claimed were from the heavens and are found in all three desert bibles - making all desert dwellers duplicitous in moses's crime and deception.

they are not theists and have no understanding of the heavens and the true message of the 1st century repudiation of judaism.

 

[ding]

- proof their religion is based on forgeries lies and fallacies - moses the liar madeup those commandments they claimed were from the heavens and are found in all three desert bibles - making all desert dwellers duplicitous in moses's crime and deception.

they are not theists and have no understanding of the heavens and the true message of the 1st century repudiation of judaism.

By all accounts they raised standards above that of their contemporaries.

 

[dblack]

For starters:

1. They would have to consider that they may be morally accountable to something greater than themselves

2. They would have to consider what happens to them upon death, and the possibility of them being judged for their actions in this life (for example, if I was a murderer or a rapist, I would probably be hoping that there is no God, and that I cease to exist upon death)

"want" doesn't enter into it.

 

[luiza]

The Sumerians had the best idea of religion..Aliens

Unsurprising as this was just one of several spots which the Anunnaki /Elohim colonised .

 

[ding]

"want" doesn't enter into it.

It certainly can’t be “need” right?

My question is do you have control over your choices or not?