Likkmee
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Damn. He was big as Butkus. I recall both of those dudes when I was a Chitcago punk. Ran into Butkus at Brookfield one Sunday. BIG dude and I was about 6'2 180 at the time.Had a neck like a trash can lid.
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Agree. And unfortunately THAT'S why he has his physical problems today.He played much biggerWe both added an extra "a" to Jim's surname. I thought it was MacMahon, as well. It's actually McMahon. And he was listed as 6 foot 1 and 195 lbs., quite a bit smaller than Bobby Douglass.I've read about MacMahon's serious problems because of his MANY concussions during his career. But that was the way he played, tough to a fault. I wish SOME of the current QB's had HALF the toughness and balls Jim had.He is paying a price nowBobby was quite a bit bigger than MacMahon, he was listed as 6 foot 4, 225 lbs. I thought he was heavier than that, and he probably was. But Jim WAS tough, like Bobby, and willing to put his "neck on the line", as they say. Willing to stick his head into the rough play.Reminds me a lot of Jim MacMahon
One hit to the head too many
He would never try to avoid a hit. Then would pop up and bang helmets with one of his linemen
Yep, Douglass was HUGE for a QB back then. Not now, of course. He was taller than Butkus, but not quite as heavy.Damn. He was big as Butkus. I recall both of those dudes when I was a Chitcago punk. Ran into Butkus at Brookfield one Sunday. BIG dude and I was about 6'2 180 at the time.Had a neck like a trash can lid.
I just checked some info on Butkus. He was listed as 6 foot 3, 245 lbs. I didn't know he was that tall, I thought maybe 6 foot or 6 foot 1.Yep, Douglass was HUGE for a QB back then. Not now, of course. He was taller than Butkus, but not quite as heavy.Damn. He was big as Butkus. I recall both of those dudes when I was a Chitcago punk. Ran into Butkus at Brookfield one Sunday. BIG dude and I was about 6'2 180 at the time.Had a neck like a trash can lid.
Ronni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Montana had an all star cast around himRonni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Bradshaw had the game's biggest throwing arm and was surrounded by a stellar cast.
But he was no Montana who, I think, was simply the best qb ever.
Montana had an all star cast around himRonni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Bradshaw had the game's biggest throwing arm and was surrounded by a stellar cast.
But he was no Montana who, I think, was simply the best qb ever.
Don’t know if you can say the same about Brady
It’s not just the wins but nine Super Bowl appearances and 13 appearances in the AFC Championship. All in 20 seasons.Montana had an all star cast around himRonni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Bradshaw had the game's biggest throwing arm and was surrounded by a stellar cast.
But he was no Montana who, I think, was simply the best qb ever.
Don’t know if you can say the same about Brady
Brady is clearly the GOAT. More Super Bowl wins with very few hall of famers around. Elway went to 3 superbowls with virtual no other hall of famers. When he got a hall of fame Running back he won 2 straight.
Do you think Rob Gronkowski, Randy Moss, Corey Dillon etc. are bums?Montana had an all star cast around him
Don’t know if you can say the same about Brady
Jerry Rice attracted a lot of attentionDo you think Rob Gronkowski, Randy Moss, Corey Dillon etc. are bums?Montana had an all star cast around him
Don’t know if you can say the same about Brady
Do you think the outstanding Patriot defenses (Coates, Harrison, McGinest, Seymour) were made up of slackers and losers?
This isn't an argument I care to have or anyone can win. Brady has been the best of his era. But Montana was the pinnacle of his and with two minutes to get the ball from the twenty to the end zone
I'd rather have Montana's hands on the ball than anyone else. End o' story.
I had my daughter do that.........people didn't want to pay much.......book value......I have about 1500 cards from the 70sPut them on ebay and some asshole will be all over itI have about a thousand football cards from that time.......including the steel curtain and even a Dan Fouts Rookie card....
Anybody want to buy the set for say about $5000...........lol
Never thought of it why the two real nfl quarterbacks tied at four apiece for the most legitimate wins in a Super Bowl, if you catch my drift why that has always been the case but good thought.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Comedy goldMontana had an all star cast around himRonni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Bradshaw had the game's biggest throwing arm and was surrounded by a stellar cast.
But he was no Montana who, I think, was simply the best qb ever.
Don’t know if you can say the same about Brady
Brady is clearly the GOAT. More Super Bowl wins with very few hall of famers around. Elway went to 3 superbowls with virtual no other hall of famers. When he got a hall of fame Running back he won 2 straight.
I personally think Johnny Unitas was the best ever. Over Montana and Bradshaw.Ronni Lott, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice, Jack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Steve Young, Deion Sanders and hall of fame coach, Bill Walsh.Why is he is not talked about like Joe Montana and also has 4 SB rings and no losses?
Several reasons-and their all hall of gamers- Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stalworth, Mike Webster, and a little thing called the Steel Curtain defense with hall of farmers Mel Blount, Joe Greene, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert. Oh yes, and hall of fame coach Chuck Knoll.
Montana didn’t have the help of as many hall of famers.
Bradshaw had the game's biggest throwing arm and was surrounded by a stellar cast.
But he was no Montana who, I think, was simply the best qb ever.
Brady has six wins and played in nine SuperbowlsBradshaw called his own plays and has 4 (four) Superbowl wins. Name another quarterback who did the same!
Bradshaw was great.
Did you miss the part where he states, “called his own plays?”Brady has six wins and played in nine SuperbowlsBradshaw called his own plays and has 4 (four) Superbowl wins. Name another quarterback who did the same!
Bradshaw was great.
Did you miss the part where he states, “called his own plays?”Brady has six wins and played in nine SuperbowlsBradshaw called his own plays and has 4 (four) Superbowl wins. Name another quarterback who did the same!
Bradshaw was great.
Means nothing. The poster made the exception that Bradshaw called his own plays.Did you miss the part where he states, “called his own plays?”Brady has six wins and played in nine SuperbowlsBradshaw called his own plays and has 4 (four) Superbowl wins. Name another quarterback who did the same!
Bradshaw was great.
Different game.
QBs still call their own plays. Never saw a play Peyton Manning didn’t audible out of
Omaha, OMAHA