Zone1 Question for Evangelicals

[BULLDOG]

lol you crypto-pagans constantly snivel about Da Evul Xians, then whine when you find some that don't follow your bizarre fictions about the theology. Make up your minds, already: Is Christianity bad or good? If the former, then why are you sniveling because you think no one is practicing it??? lol dumbasses need to quit the dope and porn. It's destroying your capacity for critical thought.

Just trying to understand your own claims.

 

[Mac-7]

No one is perfect

You mean no one except libs like Joe Bidden, Mac1958, and you?

At least trump acknowledges God as the Creator

Which is more than most lying libs can honestly say

 

[Meriweather]

What has that got to do with this subject?

You aren't interested in how Christians view President Trump? You want to tell Christians how to view President Trump? You want to order Christians not to vote for President Trump? When it comes to President Trump, there is no middle ground people can meet?

Is your purpose to tell everyone, "Don't vote for President Trump!"

And our purpose is to say, "Yes, Bulldog." ?

 

[BULLDOG]

I guess they could all do as the conservative Mennonites do and simply refuse to vote so they can never be blamed for putting a scoundrel into office.

Now, I do have to wonder why you are urging believers to act as if we are a theocracy and they are the gatekeepers for the Oval Office. What would be your reaction if all the Evangelicals banded together and demanded that only the purest of them be elected president (there are enough of them that they could form a very, very large voting block)? You'd be the first and loudest screaming "theocracy" and wetting yourself over it. Just wondering if you've really thought this through or not.

I'm not urging anybody to do anything.

 

[DudleySmith]

Just noting that there are many things to condemn Trump for.

Cool how he overturned Obamacare eh?

Cool how he has no votes n Congress or the Senate, he was President, but you banana republic fans don't really acknowledge such frivolities.

 

[DudleySmith]

You aren't interested in how Christians view President Trump? You want to tell Christians how to view President Trump? You want to order Christians not to vote for President Trump? When it comes to President Trump, there is no middle ground people can meet?

Is your purpose to tell everyone, "Don't vote for President Trump!"

And our purpose is to say, "Yes, Bulldog." ?

Yes, that's exactly how these crypto-fascist deviants think.

 

[DudleySmith]

Wasn't my list. It was God's.

No, it's yours. Even has your name and avatar right there to the left of your dumb sniveling.

 

[DudleySmith]

Just noting that there are many things to condemn Trump for.

Cool how he overturned Obamacare eh?

So just your TDS at work. Okay.

 

[DudleySmith]

Just trying to understand your own claims.

By making up your own ... lol

 

[ReinyDays]

So God no longer abhors those specific sins, as he did in Proverbs?

"Love your brother as you love yourself" ... that's the only law under the Second Covenant ... do you not understand basic Christianity? ...

Do you think envy or jealousy are loving emotions? ... I'm sorry, these are based strictly on mistrust ... and are hateful, and against God's will that we love each other ... we don't take adulterers out into the wilderness and stone them to death either, as the First Covenant demands ... maybe read the whole Bible before you cherry-pick what you want ... that's as bad as the Evangelicals ...

God let Moses look down upon the Promised Land, but Moses was forbidden entry ... and spent the rest of his days outside the lush Jordan River Valley ... by Moses' hand, many Hebrews died for trivial offenses ... graves all over the Sinai Peninsula ... all over the Levant ... Moses enforced God's Laws without Mercy ... Man will always fail the First Covenant ...

16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.…
-- Matthew Chapter 5

I personally don't hold anyone to these Old Testament Laws ... except the ones transcribed into State Law ... so go ahead and eat pig meat, I'll only be mad at you for ruining the environment and boiling the oceans off, not for violating God's Law ...

 

[Cellblock2429]

All of that is interesting, but it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.

/----/ I'm just responding to your post about MAGAs. I guess it wasn't something you wanted to hear, so you act as though it wasn't relevant. SNICKER
BULLDOG said:
Yes. Reality is sometimes hard to take for a MAGA.

 

[Hellokitty]

This is a discussion board. Nobody says you have to participate.

I am participating by asking you why anyone should have to justify their beliefs to liberals.
Liberals don't seem to hold strong beliefs as seen by the support for Hamas who kills gays and subjugates women.

 

[BULLDOG]

You mean no one except libs like Joe Bidden, Mac1958, and you?

At least trump acknowledges God as the Creator

Which is more than most lying libs can honestly say

Unable to stay on subject, or address the question in the OP?

 

[BULLDOG]

Which specific teachings of Jesus would forbid someone to vote for TRUMP!? Remember, I said specific. I'm looking for something He said that indicates we should not vote for or support a given politician.

Let's see who else they could ever vote for.

Quid Pro Joe? Nope, credible accusations of molesting his own daughter.
Obama? Nope, favored Islam, lied about obamadon'tcare and about the "stimulus" bill that didn't as well as the "shovel ready" jobs that weren't.
Bubba Clinton? Oh, heck no. What a horndog.

IOW, when do you accept that people are fallible and you're NEVER going to find the best candidate until you run for office yourself? If I vote for you, I lower my standards.

I'm not aware of the bible endorsing any party or candidate. This OP lists 7 specific sins God sees as an abomination. Are those sins justified now?

 

[BULLDOG]

You aren't interested in how Christians view President Trump? You want to tell Christians how to view President Trump? You want to order Christians not to vote for President Trump? When it comes to President Trump, there is no middle ground people can meet?

Is your purpose to tell everyone, "Don't vote for President Trump!"

And our purpose is to say, "Yes, Bulldog." ?

I am interested in how Evangelicals justify voting for a candidate who exemplifies the seven specific sins God sees as an abomination. Didn't you read the OP?

 

[BULLDOG]

Cool how he has no votes n Congress or the Senate, he was President, but you banana republic fans don't really acknowledge such frivolities.

So all those republicans in Congress tat you voted for refused to vote for his crap too?

 

[BULLDOG]

No, it's yours. Even has your name and avatar right there to the left of your dumb sniveling.

Wow. Was Solomon quoting me?

 

[BULLDOG]

By making up your own ... lol

I didn't make anything up. The list of abomination sins was all directly from the bible.

 

[BULLDOG]

"Love your brother as you love yourself" ... that's the only law under the Second Covenant ... do you not understand basic Christianity? ...

Do you think envy or jealousy are loving emotions? ... I'm sorry, these are based strictly on mistrust ... and are hateful, and against God's will that we love each other ... we don't take adulterers out into the wilderness and stone them to death either, as the First Covenant demands ... maybe read the whole Bible before you cherry-pick what you want ... that's as bad as the Evangelicals ...

God let Moses look down upon the Promised Land, but Moses was forbidden entry ... and spent the rest of his days outside the lush Jordan River Valley ... by Moses' hand, many Hebrews died for trivial offenses ... graves all over the Sinai Peninsula ... all over the Levant ... Moses enforced God's Laws without Mercy ... Man will always fail the First Covenant ...

16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.…
-- Matthew Chapter 5

I personally don't hold anyone to these Old Testament Laws ... except the ones transcribed into State Law ... so go ahead and eat pig meat, I'll only be mad at you for ruining the environment and boiling the oceans off, not for violating God's Law ...

Got it. So those seven sins listed are no longer sins?

 

[hadit]

I'm not urging anybody to do anything.

Then you have no problem with Evangelicals deciding that TRUMP! would be the better leader for the country than Hillary would? Sounds like you do and want them to vote for someone else.