Proof that the Catholic Church is the one true church and all others are pretenders...

[irosie91]

"We" hate your worship of her.

Catholics honor Mary, we do not worship her. Do you hate our honoring Mary?

But Roman Catholics do believe Mary was born without sin. It's called the Immaculate Conception. And that, according to Roman Catholic Tradition, refers not to the birth of Christ but that of Mary.

The Ark of Gods Redeemer cannot bear sin any more than the Holy of Holies could be so allowed to be corrupted with sin.

what is "the ark of god's redeemer"?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am married to a Catholic. 90% of my friends are Catholic. My father-in-law is a Deacon in the church. And I love them all. But their religion is so corrupt that they actually rewrote the Bible. Their religion is antisemitic, and that is problematic.

Jesus is a Jew, and our Lord.

How can any rational Christian be anti-semetic?

Properly understood, Christianity is a branch of nonTalmudic Judaism.

 

[irosie91]

what does "born without sin" mean?

Original sin is understood to mean that mankind has a fallen nature...i.e. a propensity to sin. It means that Mary was not born with that inclination to sin.

"inclination to sin.." -----congenital ------is it monogenetic?
recessive? dominant?

 

[The Irish Ram]

But Roman Catholics do believe Mary was born without sin. It's called the Immaculate Conception. And that, according to Roman Catholic Tradition, refers not to the birth of Christ but that of Mary.

Yes.

what does "born without sin" mean?

Incorrect Catholic dogma. Sin is a blood issue. Every human since Adam has been born with a blood issue of sin. Christ's pure blood was needed for the transfusion:

Roman's 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

All includes Mary.

 

[Meriweather]

Their religion is antisemitic

It is not.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on artificial forms of birth control.

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on Jesus' teaching that one should not divorce and remarry.

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on women being excluded from the priesthood.

You may disagree with these positions, the whole world may disagree, but the Catholic Church's holding to unpopular positions is proof that the Catholic Church is not a creature of popular opinion but something more powerful and permanent.

The Catholic Church is the only church preserved from error by the Holy Spirit.

All other churches' holding of any doctrine can be changed by a vote of its leadership and/or membership.

Only the Pope can change a Catholic doctrine, but because the Holy Spirit guides him, doctrines that were true yesterday remain true today.

What about the "thou shalt not committ adultery" ?

How are they on that one ?

 

[irosie91]

Their religion is antisemitic

It is not.

yeah, it is--------or did Isabella make a mistake?

 

[The Irish Ram]

How can any rational Christian be anti-semetic?

Rationally, they can not. Yet, they piously have usurped the role of the Jews in the Bible. Here is just one small example:

VATICAN CITY (RNS) A special Vatican meeting on the Middle East ended Saturday (Oct. 23) with a flare-up in Catholic-Jewish tensions, after an American bishop declared the Bible does not give Jews privileged rights to the land of Israel.

"We Christians cannot speak of the `promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people," said Archbishop Cyril Bustros, a native of Lebanon who is currently a Melkite Greek Catholic bishop in Newton, Mass.
"This promise was nullified by Christ," Bustros said at a Vatican press conference marking the end of a two-week session of the Synod of Bishops. "There is no longer a chosen people -- all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."

God keeps His promises even if we don't. Not only did Christ NOT nullify God's promise. Christ's Kingdom will be in the Temple in Jerusalem, not Rome...

 

[irosie91]

But Roman Catholics do believe Mary was born without sin. It's called the Immaculate Conception. And that, according to Roman Catholic Tradition, refers not to the birth of Christ but that of Mary.

Yes.

what does "born without sin" mean?

Incorrect Catholic dogma. Sin is a blood issue. Every human since Adam has been born with a blood issue of sin. Christ's pure blood was needed for the transfusion:

Roman's 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

All includes Mary.

"blood issue"?

 

[irosie91]

How can any rational Christian be anti-semetic?

Rationally, they can not. They piously have usurped the role of the Jews in the Bible. Here is just one small example:

VATICAN CITY (RNS) A special Vatican meeting on the Middle East ended Saturday (Oct. 23) with a flare-up in Catholic-Jewish tensions, after an American bishop declared the Bible does not give Jews privileged rights to the land of Israel.

"We Christians cannot speak of the `promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people," said Archbishop Cyril Bustros, a native of Lebanon who is currently a Melkite Greek Catholic bishop in Newton, Mass.
"This promise was nullified by Christ," Bustros said at a Vatican press conference marking the end of a two-week session of the Synod of Bishops. "There is no longer a chosen people -- all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."

God keeps His promises even if we don't. Not only did Christ NOT nullify God's promise. Christ's Kingdom will be in the Temple in Jerusalem, not Rome...

your father-in-law can excommunicate you for that post.....---
or do the auto de fe thing. Give Cyril a break-----Lebanon is
now run by Iran ------he wants to SURVIVE

 

[The Irish Ram]

Their religion is antisemitic

It is not.

It is.
Not all Catholics are personally antisemitic, but their religion certainly is.

 

[The Irish Ram]

How can any rational Christian be anti-semetic?

Rationally, they can not. They piously have usurped the role of the Jews in the Bible. Here is just one small example:

VATICAN CITY (RNS) A special Vatican meeting on the Middle East ended Saturday (Oct. 23) with a flare-up in Catholic-Jewish tensions, after an American bishop declared the Bible does not give Jews privileged rights to the land of Israel.

"We Christians cannot speak of the `promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people," said Archbishop Cyril Bustros, a native of Lebanon who is currently a Melkite Greek Catholic bishop in Newton, Mass.
"This promise was nullified by Christ," Bustros said at a Vatican press conference marking the end of a two-week session of the Synod of Bishops. "There is no longer a chosen people -- all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."

God keeps His promises even if we don't. Not only did Christ NOT nullify God's promise. Christ's Kingdom will be in the Temple in Jerusalem, not Rome...

your father-in-law can excommunicate you for that post.....---
or do the auto de fe thing. Give Cyril a break-----Lebanon is
now run by Iran ------he wants to SURVIVE

He could, if I was Catholic...lol

 

[irosie91]

How can any rational Christian be anti-semetic?

Rationally, they can not. They piously have usurped the role of the Jews in the Bible. Here is just one small example:

VATICAN CITY (RNS) A special Vatican meeting on the Middle East ended Saturday (Oct. 23) with a flare-up in Catholic-Jewish tensions, after an American bishop declared the Bible does not give Jews privileged rights to the land of Israel.

"We Christians cannot speak of the `promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people," said Archbishop Cyril Bustros, a native of Lebanon who is currently a Melkite Greek Catholic bishop in Newton, Mass.
"This promise was nullified by Christ," Bustros said at a Vatican press conference marking the end of a two-week session of the Synod of Bishops. "There is no longer a chosen people -- all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."

God keeps His promises even if we don't. Not only did Christ NOT nullify God's promise. Christ's Kingdom will be in the Temple in Jerusalem, not Rome...

your father-in-law can excommunicate you for that post.....---
or do the auto de fe thing. Give Cyril a break-----Lebanon is
now run by Iran ------he wants to SURVIVE

He could, if I was Catholic...lol

oh----he COULD do the auto de fe thing-----you don't have to be
catholic for that

 

[Meriweather]

their religion certainly is.

No.

 

[irosie91]

their religion certainly is.

No.

no? POPE Innocent III made a mistake?

 

[justinacolmena]

It is.
Not all Catholics are personally antisemitic, but their religion certainly is.

That's where I'm starting to object to the word "Catholic" --- it's a Greek word, καθολικός --- but at the same time a very vague, stereotypically Italian gesture of something general, universal, and all-encompassing --- and I don't know that the word "unique" even fits so much as "the whole" of something, all of it.

It was the Emperor Constantine who finally permitted a "Catholic" church to exist within the district of his holy empire when the Christians, early followers of Jesus and his disciples including Origen, were killed off, and their descendants, after 300 years of hideous tortures, ceased objecting to Roman circumcisions, crucifixions and other insidious Roman practices of birthing and various abominations of bad medicine.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Sadly, Yes.
La difesa della razza. The fact is that, in the wake of the granting of equal rights to Western Europe’s Jews—a nineteenth-century development fiercely opposed by the Catholic Church—the church repeatedly tried to spread the alarm against a rapacious Jewish people bent on reducing all Christians to their slaves. Catholics were warned to beware of their Jewish neighbors, deemed members of a secret world conspiracy responsible not only for capitalism but also for communism.

There is a long history of Catholic distain for the chosen people. The Catholics want to be the chosen people.

 

[justinacolmena]

the church repeatedly tried to spread the alarm against a rapacious Jewish people bent on reducing all Christians to their slaves.

Circumcision, imposed by the Catholic Church, and falsely blamed on the Jews, was and is the primary symbol of that slavery.

 

[Crixus]

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on artificial forms of birth control.

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on Jesus' teaching that one should not divorce and remarry.

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on women being excluded from the priesthood.

You may disagree with these positions, the whole world may disagree, but the Catholic Church's holding to unpopular positions is proof that the Catholic Church is not a creature of popular opinion but something more powerful and permanent.

The Catholic Church is the only church preserved from error by the Holy Spirit.

All other churches' holding of any doctrine can be changed by a vote of its leadership and/or membership.

Only the Pope can change a Catholic doctrine, but because the Holy Spirit guides him, doctrines that were true yesterday remain true today.

The Catholic Church will do whatever for some scheckles and 13 year old boys.

 

[justinacolmena]

The Catholic Church is the only church that has held the line on artificial forms of birth control.

"Held the line?" What does that mean? Do you need a whore's interpretation and a whore's license?

Is it one line or two that shows up pink on the dollar-store home pregnancy test kit?

If everybody is tithe-paying Catholic and their kids go to charter school, then how are all these Democrats getting voted into office at the local parish or borough or township?