"Pro life" is not a conservative position.

[TNHarley]

Resist the meaning of what people are trying to share with you.

Perrito.

Murder is an illegal taking of ones life. You people use that term to appeal to emotion. Period.

 

[Chuz Life]

And we have safe ways to end it now. I dont want to make coat hangers great again.

Birth ends the gestation period too.

Doesn't it.

Along those lines. . . your comments raise an interesting question (observation really.)

Are children who are delivered surgically (c-section) instead of natural 'birth'/ parturition considered to be "born?" In your view?

What about children who are chemically "induced?"

Surely you agree they are considered to be "born."

Don't you?

 

[Chuz Life]

Murder is an illegal taking of ones life. You people use that term to appeal to emotion. Period.

This has already been addressed.

If the law making the killing "legal" is itself an unconstitutional law. . . The murder label is appropriate.

Due to the government's complicity, maybe even more so.

 

[Chuz Life]

It isnt.

So, you played that card. . .

Because?

 

[TNHarley]

Birth ends the gestation period too.

Doesn't it.

Along those lines. . . your comments raise an interesting question (observation really.)

Are children who are delivered surgically (c-section) instead of natural 'birth'/ parturition considered to be "born?" In your view?

What about children who are chemically "induced?"

Surely you agree they are considered to be "born."

Don't you?

yes

 

[toobfreak]

Its forcing gestation on women with threats of being locked in a cage with real criminals, and fines.

Women force gestation on themselves by shacking up when they don't want a kid.

Murdering a human fetus is a real crime. It is one thing to murder a stranger for pure profit, but to murder your own child that you created through your own actions is a kind of depravity I hope to never meet.

 

[TNHarley]

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So, you played that card. . .

Because?

I didnt bring it up

 

[Chuz Life]

Stem cells help people. Its revolutionary science.

No profits in it.

Right?

 

[TNHarley]

but to murder your own child that you created through your own actions is a kind of depravity I hope to never meet.

Agreed.

 

[Chuz Life]

I didnt bring it up

This you?

 

[DonGlock26]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

What laws should the gov't be able to enforce?

 

[toobfreak]

Its leftist big govt shit.

So you are saying that abortion pro-choice is leftist, but being anti-abortion pro-life is leftist too?

 

[Chuz Life]

Birth ends the gestation period too.

Doesn't it.

Along those lines. . . your comments raise an interesting question (observation really.)

Are children who are delivered surgically (c-section) instead of natural 'birth'/ parturition considered to be "born?" In your view?

What about children who are chemically "induced?"

Surely you agree they are considered to be "born."

Don't you?

yes

Great!

Now, please explain the difference between a child (children) "born" by surgical removal or by chemical inducing. . . and an abortion where that (figuratively) same child is surgically removed or chemically induced from (figuratively) that same woman and (also figuratively) by that same dr.

What is the ******* PHYSIOLOGICAL difference?

If you were honest.

You would at least admit that an aborted child is just as "born" as is any other. The only real difference is that they are intentionally killed in the process.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The right to take another's life?

If you play stupid, discussions go nowhere.

Let's spell it out.

Being against abortion and wanting it to be illegal for everyone are not the same thing.

Do you understand that?

 

[XponentialChaos]

 

[Concerned American]

Exodus 21
When, in the course of a brawl, a man knocks against a pregnant woman so that she has a miscarriage but suffers no further injury, then the offender must pay whatever fine the woman's husband demands after assessment. But where injury ensues, you are to give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, bruise for bruise, wound for wound."

Maybe you should read the whole chapter and verse--you nitpicked that one apart to say what you wanted it to say. If you follow that ambiguously worded verse, you must surely believe in slavery as well, eh?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe you should read the whole chapter and verse--you nitpicked that one apart to say what you wanted it to say. If you follow that ambiguously worded verse, you must surely believe in slavery as well, eh?

As any Bible literalist would.

Thank goodness most of you are cafeteria Christians, now.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

Ultimately the issue is mothers killing their children. The solution is for women to love their children enough to not want to kill them.

 

[Concerned American]

We have safe ways to end her pregnancy and GOVERNMENTS restrict it. Meaning they force the continued gestation on women.

The decision was made when she spread her legs and he impregnated her. The government had nothing to do with it. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel in the effort to justify the murder of an innocent.

 

[Chuz Life]

I think abortion is abhorrent.

Because,

why?