Pro-Abortionists are against regulations! Major decisions in Texas.

[elektra]

Wow is all I can say.
Listening to the News out of Texas today I was surprised that the people who claim to be saving a Women's life and health are protesting against Regulations that will require Doctors to perform abortions in a Hospital type of surgical room instead of a simple office.

Seems to make sense, life saving health procedures need to be performed in Hospitals or Clinics that are designed for surgical/emergency procedures.

The advocates argue, this is about Health, in many cases life saving procedures.
So how is it that Democrats who are all about Health and Science are suddenly against REGULATIONS?

Photo: More rallies outside US Supreme Court building in Washington, DC, before abortion case set to be argued Wednesday morning - @oyez

Editor's note: The U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments this morning in Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, a case that could determine how far states may go in regulating abortions without violating a woman’s constitutional rights. Two provisions of a Texas law are being challenged: one that requires abortion clinics to meet standards of ambulatory surgery centers, and one that requires abortion doctors to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

A phrase I keep hearing from democrats is businesses must be regulated...except for abortion clinics...

 

[alang1216]

life saving health procedures need to be performed in Hospitals or Clinics that are designed for surgical/emergency procedures.

No one disputes this but abortions are hardly "life saving". Should every medical procedure be done in a hospital or is there something special about abortions that doctors and the medical don't understand? Seems this is a case of government/politics/religion getting between a doctor and a patient. Just what opponents of Obamacare complain about.

 

[mamooth]

Abortion is much less dangerous than oral surgery, plastic surgery, or many other outpatient procedures which are _not_ required by law to have such stringent "safety" requirements, requirements that actually have nothing to do with safety.

Pro-lifers, it's obvious you care nothing about safety, as illustrated by your raging double standards. You know you're lying, we know you're lying, so why keep up the charade?

Remember, you will burn in hell for lying so proudly. There's no "Lying is fine if it helps you attack dirty liberals" clause.

 

[elektra]

life saving health procedures need to be performed in Hospitals or Clinics that are designed for surgical/emergency procedures.

No one disputes this but abortions are hardly "life saving". Should every medical procedure be done in a hospital or is there something special about abortions that doctors and the medical don't understand? Seems this is a case of government/politics/religion getting between a doctor and a patient. Just what opponents of Obamacare complain about.

Yet, the argument for Planned Parenthood is, this is about a Woman's health, that Abortions are performed to save a Woman's life. Further, an Abortion is the the removal of a living human that is physically attached to a Woman. The physical removal of a part of a Woman's body is as performed today, is violent. The way abortions are performed in offices has resulted in injury and death to Women.

This is a simple regulation to save a Woman's life, I thought the Democrats understand how rules and regulations are needed.

I am not arguing for or against but simply pointing out the hypocrisy.

 

[elektra]

Abortion is much less dangerous than oral surgery, plastic surgery, or many other outpatient procedures which are _not_ required by law to have such stringent "safety" requirements, requirements that actually have nothing to do with safety.

Pro-lifers, it's obvious you care nothing about safety, as illustrated by your raging double standards. You know you're lying, we know you're lying, so why keep up the charade?

Remember, you will burn in hell for lying so proudly. There's no "Lying is fine if it helps you attack dirty liberals" clause.

Yes, raging double standards, it is a guarantee you can always find that maMOOT is pointing at her/himself when making accusations of others.

maMOOT, you scream that the Republicans are for polluting the Earth and Destroying the USA because we want less regulations, but when it is your ideology that falls under a simple regulation that will save the life of a woman, you are suddenly anti-regulation?

The Liberals, the Democrats are about regulations except when it comes to Abortions, they would have women getting abortions in back alleys with no access to life saving medical procedures that modern medicine provides?

Regulations if the can apply to Republican businesses, no Regulations for the Democrat business of Abortion?

 

[DGS49]

(1) No one is "pro-abortion."

(2) The only sane and rational articulation of the imaginary "right to an abortion" is that one cannot be prohibited by law - de jure or de facto - from seeking and obtaining an abortion from a willing practitioner.

(3) People who oppose abortion, and especially "convenience" abortion, seek to deny abortions to people who want them by putting up little roadblocks of inconvenience that, they hope, will result in somewhat fewer abortions than would take place without the roadblocks in place.

(4) The new regulations in Texas are one of the "roadblocks," being effective by reducing the number of legal abortion clinics in the state, thus making it either very inconvenient or effectively impossible for some women who want an abortion to have one.

(5) It is analogous in some minds to placing restrictions on the right to vote (voter ID). If it is a "right," then no restrictions are appropriate.

 

[jknowgood]

Abortion is much less dangerous than oral surgery, plastic surgery, or many other outpatient procedures which are _not_ required by law to have such stringent "safety" requirements, requirements that actually have nothing to do with safety.

Pro-lifers, it's obvious you care nothing about safety, as illustrated by your raging double standards. You know you're lying, we know you're lying, so why keep up the charade?

Remember, you will burn in hell for lying so proudly. There's no "Lying is fine if it helps you attack dirty liberals" clause.

Actually you will burn in hell for supporting abortion. God doesn't like your support for killing his innocent children.

 

[elektra]

(1) No one is "pro-abortion."

(2) The only sane and rational articulation of the imaginary "right to an abortion" is that one cannot be prohibited by law - de jure or de facto - from seeking and obtaining an abortion from a willing practitioner.

(3) People who oppose abortion, and especially "convenience" abortion, seek to deny abortions to people who want them by putting up little roadblocks of inconvenience that, they hope, will result in somewhat fewer abortions than would take place without the roadblocks in place.

(4) The new regulations in Texas are one of the "roadblocks," being effective by reducing the number of legal abortion clinics in the state, thus making it either very inconvenient or effectively impossible for some women who want an abortion to have one.

(5) It is analogous in some minds to placing restrictions on the right to vote (voter ID). If it is a "right," then no restrictions are appropriate.

Yet, it is a simple Regulation requiring immediate access to hospitals and that abortions are no longer performed in a simple office, that they must be in a quality, surgical type of room. After all, much of what Planned Parenthood does, is Emergency type of abortions to save the life of a woman? This is about Health. Certainly you can not be against regulations that require a certain standard of medical care be available when things go wrong?

Pro or against, Abortion can no longer be performed in the back alleys of any old Doctor who calls his office, a "Clinic".

Physically removing a living part of Woman's body, one that literally will fight for life, requires more than a office or clinic as they are called, it requires a real surgical room.

 

[alang1216]

Yet, the argument for Planned Parenthood is, this is about a Woman's health, that Abortions are performed to save a Woman's life.

We both know this is not always the case. Probably a small minority of cases in fact. I don't know but I suspect late-term abortions are more dangerous and more likely to be performed in hospitals.

Further, an Abortion is the the removal of a living human that is physically attached to a Woman.

This is an opinion I do not share.

The physical removal of a part of a Woman's body is as performed today, is violent.

Does this apply to warts, tumors, impacted wisdom teeth too?

The way abortions are performed in offices has resulted in injury and death to Women.

Probably in rare cases but are they statistically more dangerous than other out-patient procedures? I doubt it.

 

[elektra]

This is not about Abortions, it is about a Regulation requiring Medical Care being available where Abortions are performed.

I guess the Democrats are screaming that they do not want the Regulations that other Medical facilities must abide by.

This thread is about the hypocrisy, of Democrats, the are for Regulations that will hurt capitalism, against regulations that will force abortion offices into the 21st century.

 

[rightwinger]

Texan laws are more harassment against women who decide for abortion

Make the clinics fewer and fewer, make doctors be affiliated with local hospitals and then pressure hospitals not to accept abortion doctors, make women travel long distances to a clinic and then make them wait three days before they can get the procedure done.

Backdoor ban on abortion

 

[elektra]

This is an opinion I do not share.

The physical removal of a part of a Woman's body is as performed today, is violent.

Does this apply to warts, tumors, impacted wisdom teeth too?

Probably in rare cases but are they statistically more dangerous than other out-patient procedures? I doubt it.

Welcome to the 21st Century, where real doctors recognize that removing a living being that is physically attached deep inside another human being is a bit more than removing a, "wart".

An abortion is no different than removing a, "wart". This is why we need Regulations, there are Abortion doctors that obviously describe abortion such as this user, somebody must be teaching Abortions are no different than Wart Removal.

This is a great example why our government must step in with a simple regulation that requires more than a Wart Doctor to be performing abortions.

 

[alang1216]

This is not about Abortions, it is about a Regulation requiring Medical Care being available where Abortions are performed.

I guess the Democrats are screaming that they do not want the Regulations that other Medical facilities must abide by.

This thread is about the hypocrisy, of Democrats, the are for Regulations that will hurt capitalism, against regulations that will force abortion offices into the 21st century.

Hypocrisy is injecting politics into healthcare.

 

[elektra]

Texan laws are more harassment against women who decide for abortion

Make the clinics fewer and fewer, make doctors be affiliated with local hospitals and then pressure hospitals not to accept abortion doctors, make women travel long distances to a clinic and then make them wait three days before they can get the procedure done.

Backdoor ban on abortion

You have the option of spending a bit of that free government money that planned parenthood gets on an actual surgical center, all that money abortionists make need not be spent on new BMW's and Mercedes Benz.

Spend the money on the facility, not to pad your pocket.

See, this is about money, nothing more, Democrats demand Abortion yet want it performed in a back alley, and if they have to spend the profit on a real medical facility, that is way over the line?

 

[bendog]

This is not about Abortions, it is about a Regulation requiring Medical Care being available where Abortions are performed.

I guess the Democrats are screaming that they do not want the Regulations that other Medical facilities must abide by.

This thread is about the hypocrisy, of Democrats, the are for Regulations that will hurt capitalism, against regulations that will force abortion offices into the 21st century.

bullshit. It's about making abortions unavailable. At least try to be honest for god's sake.

 

[elektra]

Hypocrisy is injecting politics into healthcare.

Hypocrisy is refusing to bring the Abortion office up to a standard that the term HealthCare could apply to.

 

[elektra]

bullshit. It's about making abortions unavailable. At least try to be honest for god's sake.

Democrats can not bring Abortion Offices up to a standard of quality that rates the term, HealhCare.

Welcome to the 21st Century, it is time to step up and turn the Abortion Office into a Medical Facility where Woman are safe when they arrive for that life-saving aboriton.

 

[bodecea]

Abortion is much less dangerous than oral surgery, plastic surgery, or many other outpatient procedures which are _not_ required by law to have such stringent "safety" requirements, requirements that actually have nothing to do with safety.

Pro-lifers, it's obvious you care nothing about safety, as illustrated by your raging double standards. You know you're lying, we know you're lying, so why keep up the charade?

Remember, you will burn in hell for lying so proudly. There's no "Lying is fine if it helps you attack dirty liberals" clause.

Are you kidding? They never ever cared about the "Thou Shall not Bear False Witness" commandment.............ever.

 

[bendog]

bullshit. It's about making abortions unavailable. At least try to be honest for god's sake.

Democrats can not bring Abortion Offices up to a standard of quality that rates the term, HealhCare.

Welcome to the 21st Century, it is time to step up and turn the Abortion Office into a Medical Facility where Woman are safe when they arrive for that life-saving aboriton.

Stop lying. The texas pols who passed that thing weren't a dishonest as you, or as cowardly and duplicitous.

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