President Trump just placed the DC police under federal control

[BackAgain]

If it wasn't for those photographers you'd not be able to show me that photograph, it's useful isn't it to have a press...

So an actual journalist captured the behavior of fake journalists. Or, some fake journalists inadvertently permitted the truth to come forth.

A free press is a positive. An honest free press is far superior.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There are deep seated reasons for US crime and violence, the nation has been in moral decline for decades, trump can't "fix" this because he doesn't address the causes. He can only treat the symptoms, he is not going to save you or America, he's been sent to punish America not save it.

So long as you sell guns to every dunce that wants one, so long as you defend criminals like trump while punishing shop lifters, so long as you turn a blind eye to racism, so long as you admire the liars who lick trump's boots, so long as you admire the things you claim to despise, the country will not get better.

The US exports violence unlike any nation before it, we spend billions of tax payer dollars on weapons, we bomb and maim far away countries who have no gripe with the American people.

We spread our national fetish for guns all over the world via Hollywood, we are the authors of violence and destruction, not the victims and now its beginning to turn inwards. Generations of young people have been indoctrinated to perceive the gun as a solution to violence so is it surprising we see gun violence here? guns solve problems, violence works that's what millions and millions of young men has been told since they started to walk.

Look in a mirror, you are the reason the country is devolving, this is a very sick society, why not be part of the solution?

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Looks like you have a very real objection to people being able to defend themselves.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So an actual journalist captured the behavior of fake journalists. Or, some fake journalists inadvertently permitted the truth to come forth.

A free press is a positive. An honest free press is far superior.

You see what you want to see in that motorcycle picture, just as you choose not to see what you don't want to see in this picture.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The prevalence of gun crime reflects the prevalence of guns.

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268 mass shootings in 212 days, think about it.

Gang shootings. Think about it.

 

[BackAgain]

You see what you want to see in that motorcycle picture, just as you choose not to see what you don't want to see in this picture.

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What. Pictures of the victims of war?

Wow. So informative.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Looks like you have a very real objection to people being able to defend themselves.

I'd rather defend myself against a stick with a stick than against a gun with a gun.

 

[schmidlap]

Impossible to say really.

Apart from training in Wing Chun for years, not much else, that's why I choose to live in this area

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The most effective protection against gun violence is to avoid living in states that have permissive firearm laws.

 

[schmidlap]

How would you hold up, if a group of young thugs attacked you trying to steal your car?

Not knowing how many are armed, I would let them steal the car.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

What. Pictures of the victims of war?

Precisely, you see only what you want to see.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I'd rather defend myself against a stick with a stick than against a gun with a gun.

No. What you want is a 95 pound woman unable to defend herself against a 250 pound rapist with a stick.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Gang shootings. Think about it.

They were likely raised by people who shot people.

 

[Edgetho]

So an actual journalist captured the behavior of fake journalists. Or, some fake journalists inadvertently permitted the truth to come forth.

A free press is a positive. An honest free press is far superior.

Many years ago, PBS hosted a panel on (I forget the name) something like "Ethics in The Modern World" where they covered a lot of topics concerning morally ambiguous scenarios.

One was about an Officer leading his men on a dangerous mission behind enemy lines when one of his men refused to go any further.

Another, more interesting, one was about 'Ethics In Journalism'. I find the title to be an oxymoron.

A Hypothetical was placed before a half-dozen Famous Journalists on the panel to answer "If you're embedded with the North Venutian Army and they are about to ambush an American Column of soldiers, and most likely wipe them out, what do you do??"

Only one of them said he would try to warn the Americans. None of the others. They all said that their integrity was more important than saving American Lives. That they'd let the American Soldiers die.

Fine, says I. "But what if you're captured? You're an American Citizen and if the North Venutians capture you and hold you for ransom, while sending us one of your ears to signify their sincerity, How many of my Men do I risk, how many of my Men do I get killed trying to rescue your sorry ass?"

And this was at least 25 years ago. Journalism has gotten much worse.

So I ask you, if an American Journalist is captured, is being tortured and mutilated and you have the ability to save him or her but it would cost the lives of several of your Men, would you do it?

Would you? Would you get a dozen of your men killed to save the life of a journalist who couldn't give a shit less about yours? Would you do it?

 

[BackAgain]

Precisely, you see only what you want to see.

Well, it doesn’t show aliens landing at the Eiffel Tower, you moron.

Precisely.

 

[schmidlap]

The blowhard's fake pretext for savaging local rule is blatantly obvious.

Dictatorial agenda have always worked that way.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

No. What you want is a 95 pound woman unable to defend herself against a 250 pound rapist with a stick.

Even if she had a gun and shot the rapist, nobody would believe her...

Hegseth told senator that he paid $50,000 to woman who accused him of sexual assault in 2017, AP reports

Pete Hegseth, President Donald Trump’s nominee for defense secretary, paid $50,000 to the woman who accused him of sexual assault in 2017, according to answers he provided to a senator during his confirmation process that The Associated Press has obtained.

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Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M

A jury has found Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Jurors awarded her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House. The verdict was announced in a federal courtroom in New York City on...

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[EvilCat Breath]

They were likely raised by people who shot people.

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You support being defenseless against savages. No.

 

[BackAgain]

Many years ago, PBS hosted a panel on (I forget the name) something like "Ethics in The Modern World" where they covered a lot of topics concerning morally ambiguous scenarios.

One was about an Officer leading his men on a dangerous mission behind enemy lines when one of his men refused to go any further.

Another, more interesting, one was about 'Ethics In Journalism'. I find the title to be an oxymoron.

A Hypotetical was placed for a half-dozen Famous Journalists on the panel to answer "If you're embedded with the North Venutian Army and they are about to ambush an American Column of soldiers, and most likely wipe them out, what do you do??"

Only one of them said he would try to warn the Americans. None of the others. They all said that their integrity was more important than saving American Lives. That he'd let the Americans die.

Fine, says I. "But what if you're captured? You're an American Citizen and if the North Venutians capture you and hold you for ransom, while sending us one of your ears to signify your sincerity, How many of my Men do I risk, how many of my Men do I get killed trying to rescue your sorry ass?"

And this was at least 25 years ago. Journalism has gotten much worse.

So I ask you, if an American Journalist is captured, is being tortured and mutilated and you have the ability to save him or her but it would cost the lives of several of your Men, would you do it?

Would you? Would you get a dozen of your men killed to save the life of a journalist who couldn't give a shit less about yours? Would you do it?

If I were ever in such a crappy dilemma, I suppose I’d subordinate my so-called journalist “ethics” to the higher ethical duty of saving the life or lives of my fellow Americans. It does often come down to such a choice: which has the higher priority?

But I’m unclear as to how that relates to the topic of this thread.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You support being defenseless against savages. No.

The people of My Lai were defenseless against American savages.

 

[Edgetho]

Looks like you have a very real objection to people being able to defend themselves.

The State will do it. The State Uber Alles .

Nothing Above The State. I get so confused about what a fascist is these days --

“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”​

― Benito Mussolini

sheesh, you guys just don't get it... The State is what matters. We don't need to defend ourseves, the State will do it. Just ask our totes not-fascist dimocrap scumbags. They'll tell you

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The State will do it. The State Uber Alles .

Nothing Above The State. I get so confused about what a fascist is these days --

“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”​

― Benito Mussolini

sheesh, you guys just don't get it... The State is what matters. We don't need to defend ourseves, the State will do it. Just ask our totes not-fascist dimocrap scumbags. They'll tell you

Who protects us from the state?