Update On D.C. Crime

[White 6]

So, you admit you are fuller of shit now! What a great flex!

Are you drunk and bored again? Try to concentrate on the thrust of what I have said in this thread on the numbers of uniformed and non-uniformed personnel, we all as taxpayers we are paying, that we have in Washington, DC, a town 693,000 to control their crime rate, on our dime. It is not a stated, but if it were, it would be a police state. I feel sorry for the poor bastards that have to live with it. Oh, and remember, the Active Duty Guard is there, just for political theater and show, as they have not general arrest powers, as I stated in earlier post, and linked to the US Army site.

 

[White 6]

But apparently you think they aren't getting paid unless Trump has them do something Democrats don't approve of, right? Then it suddenly becomes 'costly' ...

If Trump did not have the Active Duty Guard there, they would not be getting active duty pay. They would be at home, at their regular jobs and mostly paid 4 MUTAS/month (2 days), plus 2 weeks of annual training.
It is an expensive political show, having them there, and most are not even MPs and all without general arrest authority. I am simply not impressed with the use or expense.

I am positive, if you gave those federal dollars to my city, we could hire our own actual sworn additional officers and decrease our crime rate, without a huge property tax increase to fund law enforcement.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Are you drunk and bored again? Try to concentrate on the thrust of what I have said in this thread on the numbers of uniformed and non-uniformed personnel, we all as taxpayers we are paying, that we have in Washington, DC, a town 693,000 to control their crime rate, on our dime. It is not a stated, but if it were, it would be a police state. I feel sorry for the poor bastards that have to live with it. Oh, and remember, the Active Duty Guard is there, just for political theater and show, as they have not general arrest powers, as I stated in earlier post, and linked to the US Army site.

I am talking about your location, dumbass! DC is not 4000 miles from TN. I could give a shit less about examples of your math skills. None of that ******* matters except to your TDS.

 

[White 6]

I am talking about your location, dumbass! DC is not 4000 miles from TN. I could give a shit less about examples of your math skills. None of that ******* matters except to your TDS.

Might ass well be. I felt closer to Washington, doing the daily brief of 4 way split sceen video, from V Corp HQ.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Might ass well be. I felt closer to Washington, doing the daily brief of 4 way split sceen video, from V Corp HQ.

Making coffee for the general's meeting were you?

I hope your coffee was better than your typing!

 

[White 6]

Making coffee for the general's meeting were you?

I hope your coffee was better than your typing!

No. That was working for the Corp G3, (a Colonel) running night shift Operations and doing the morning brief to Washington and NATO before going off shift . Interesting duty, interesting information flow. Way after working for the General, back when I was 1LT. Gotta admit, though, working for him was a door opening career experience.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

If Trump did not have the Active Duty Guard there, they would not be getting active duty pay. They would be at home, at their regular jobs and mostly paid 4 MUTAS/month (2 days), plus 2 weeks of annual training.
It is an expensive political show, having them there, and most are not even MPs and all without general arrest authority. I am simply not impressed with the use or expense.

So they're lying about the total costs, then. We knew that. Then add in the insurance costs and other macro costs of rampant crime and gang activity, and the cost turn out to be not much, and in fact a bargain.

I am positive, if you gave those federal dollars to my city, we could hire our own actual sworn additional officers and decrease our crime rate, without a huge property tax increase to fund law enforcement.

No, it would just be a political football and the money would be wasted by local scammers and fed to local racist activists, like Al Sharpton's fake fronts, for instance. Trump is in the way of that cash cow, hence all the butthurt ***** whining.

D.C> has had grants out the wazoo for literally a hundred years, and all it did was feed crooked black racist bullshit.

 

[White 6]

So they're lying about the total costs, then. We knew that. Then add in the insurance costs and other macro costs of rampant crime and gang activity, and the cost turn out to be not much, and in fact a bargain.



No, it would just be a political football and the money would be wasted by local scammers and fed to local racist activists, like Al Sharpton's fake fronts, for instance. Trump is in the way of that cash cow, hence all the butthurt ***** whining.

D.C> has had grants out the wazoo for literally a hundred years, and all it did was feed crooked black racist bullshit.

Who is lying about the costs. Certainly not my local government with our 70 man police force. If all or the US wanted to chip in money so we could have more actual sworn officers (not military show troops), I am sure the city would accept and spend the money. But, we are not asking. We handle our own, as best we can, mostly within our means.

Nobody is lying about costs of putting thousands of active duty troops on the street and most people do have some idea how much money being wasted on show. Hell, I am so old, I have sat at a desk counting out to the dollar, actual dollar bills wrapping them in LES (Leaves and Earnings Statement) after being up all night counting the hundreds of thousands I had personally signed for when I picked up the bulk pay. I definitely know what troops cost in just pay, not counting transportation, food, billeting, administration, medical, dental, equipment, etc, etc, ad noseum.

 

[riseabovethis]

Are you saying they don't get paid or cost anything unless Trump calls them out? lol okay, keep thinking that, it's par for your ilk.

The National guard has been deployed through various cities and it cost a lot of money. They aren't on a base so they need food and hotels which is paid for by your tax dollars. There's still 2500 in Washington DC. Cost for them to be there so far is $330 million.

Tell everyone how many arrests they made when they were deployed anywhere in the USA

 

[riseabovethis]

The National Guard cannot stop the crime wave ushered into Chicago by bad political leadership.

The National Guard can't stop any crime because they're not legally allowed to arrest anyone. When they were first deployed they weren't allowed to carry guns because that was against the law.

 

[markef]

The National Guard can't stop any crime because they're not legally allowed to arrest anyone. When they were first deployed they weren't allowed to carry guns because that was against the law.

Leftist legal restraints on good people and law enforcement officers have been a big factor in rising crime rates in the US.

 

[riseabovethis]

Leftist legal restraints on good people and law enforcement officers have been a big factor in rising crime rates in the US.

The only people who determine the crime rate are criminals. If they commit less crime the crime rate goes down. IF they commit more crimes the crime rate goes up.

Unfortuantely the police are seldom in the right place at the right time because they're not psychic. Their job usually is picking up the pieces after a crime is committed.

As for politicians can you think of any program they implemented that actually reduced crime. Don't bother mentioning President Nazi, crime has been going down for a few years.

As for DHS all they did was arrest people with outstanding warrants and that would include traffic violations.

As for the National Guard they have made ZERO arrests and cost a fortune.

 

[westwall]

The only people who determine the crime rate are criminals. If they commit less crime the crime rate goes down. IF they commit more crimes the crime rate goes up.

Unfortuantely the police are seldom in the right place at the right time because they're not psychic. Their job usually is picking up the pieces after a crime is committed.

As for politicians can you think of any program they implemented that actually reduced crime. Don't bother mentioning President Nazi, crime has been going down for a few years.

As for DHS all they did was arrest people with outstanding warrants and that would include traffic violations.

As for the National Guard they have made ZERO arrests and cost a fortune.

Oh? Laws have no effect on crime? I actually agree with you on this. Anti gun laws only help criminals because they ignore them, while the law abiding dutifully disarm themselves. So OK, let's kill all the criminals.

That worked in Byzantium once upon a time. Maybe we should try it again.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

The National guard has been deployed through various cities and it cost a lot of money. They aren't on a base so they need food and hotels which is paid for by your tax dollars. There's still 2500 in Washington DC. Cost for them to be there so far is $330 million.

Tell everyone how many arrests they made when they were deployed anywhere in the USA

Does it cost more than just keeping criminals in prison where they belong? I bet it would be cheaper to keep the criminals locked up that Democrats keep turning loose to murder and rob again.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Who is lying about the costs. Certainly not my local government with our 70 man police force. If all or the US wanted to chip in money so we could have more actual sworn officers (not military show troops), I am sure the city would accept and spend the money. But, we are asking. We handle our own, as best we can, mostly within our means.

Nobody is lying about costs of putting thousands of active duty troops on the street and most people do have some idea how much money being wasted on show. Hell, I am so old, I have sat at a desk counting out to the dollar, actual dollar bills wrapping them in LES (Leaves and Earnings Statement) after being up all night counting the hundreds of thousands I had personally signed for when I picked up the bulk pay. I definitely know what troops cost in just pay, not counting transportation, food, billeting, administration, medical, dental, equipment, etc, etc, ad noseum.

Yes, just keep ignoring all the costs. apparently your nap time getting those Learing Center certificates didn't include sleeping on macro-economic cost accounting chapters.

 

[White 6]

Yes, just keep ignoring all the costs. apparently your nap time getting those Learing Center certificates didn't include sleeping on macro-economic cost accounting chapters.

If you are supporting the expenditure to keep active duty troops without arrest powers stationed there, you are the one ignoring cost/benefit analysis, or maybe you simply fail whatever business courses you took, or maybe you really know nothing about the costs, logistics and upkeep for a show deployment of this size.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

If you are supporting the expenditure to keep active duty troops without arrest powers stationed there, you are the one ignoring cost/benefit analysis, or maybe you simply fail whatever business courses you took, or maybe you really know nothing about the costs, logistics and upkeep for a show deployment of this size.

Keep flailing and pretending you know stuff. I'll keep laughing at the lack of real points you have.

 

[HikerGuy83]

If you are supporting the expenditure to keep active duty troops without arrest powers stationed there, you are the one ignoring cost/benefit analysis, or maybe you simply fail whatever business courses you took, or maybe you really know nothing about the costs, logistics and upkeep for a show deployment of this size.

Tell that to the significant number of people who have NOT BEEN MURDERED in DC who otherwise would have been (statistically speaking).

 

[markef]

The only people who determine the crime rate are criminals. If they commit less crime the crime rate goes down. IF they commit more crimes the crime rate goes up.

Unfortuantely the police are seldom in the right place at the right time because they're not psychic. Their job usually is picking up the pieces after a crime is committed.

As for politicians can you think of any program they implemented that actually reduced crime. Don't bother mentioning President Nazi, crime has been going down for a few years.

As for DHS all they did was arrest people with outstanding warrants and that would include traffic violations.

As for the National Guard they have made ZERO arrests and cost a fortune.

Bad soft-on-crime judges tend to be appointed by democrats, not republicans.

 

[White 6]

Tell that to the significant number of people who have NOT BEEN MURDERED in DC who otherwise would have been (statistically speaking).

Hey, they are DC. Basically under Fed supervision and Fed control anyway. We are just footing more for their upkeeps, while our own property taxes, hotel, and tourist taxes go up to support our. I am just pointing out, the Guard (and obviously I like the Guard) is on duty their for show, not go, as it is not a solely MP deployment, and they do not have arrest powers, according to the Department of the Army, and they are Army, when on active title 10 duty. At least the state Guard of the various states is not having to pick up the tab. Just people like you and me with our income tax.

I will say, for the average Guardsman and women, it is pretty good duty as they are living in climate controlled quarters, meals locally contracted as, it is not companies with their own mess teams, and last I saw, they were not loaded down with extra ammo, pistol, M16, and bayonet, wearing steel pot, like the last time I was activated for domestic disturbance, sleeping on the floor of un-airconditioned Air Guard hanger in the summer. We did have arrest power (as the damned police and firemen were on strike and we were enforcing a curfew, and getting called on alert any time off duty (on strike) police were plinking around the Guardsmen manning the fire trucks. So they would roll us out to the scene. I drove for the Platoon Sergeant, so when we stopped he got out to meet with the Officers, and I manned a loaded M60 on pedestal mount in the back the Jeep along with a platoon of gun jeeps. That's right Jeep. That's how old I am and a Spec 4 at the time, long before OCS. Unlike these guys of Federal duty, we didn't even a retirement point/day for every active day, but we did get paid, though it was a hell of a lot less than I made in my civilian employment. Luckily, we never shot anybody, or even fire a shot (actually turning in more ammunition than was issued at the end of deployment [just in case somebody did have to shoot somebody), because when a platoon of gun jeeps pulls up (mostly Vietnam veterans in full combat gear and manned loaded M60s start scanning the rooftops and windows, plinking fire ended abruptly.