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Seriously? When Trumptards make arguments for why we need guns, what is their go-to argument?
It's quite simple really. The reason we need guns is because of Democrats. The only way for us to get rid of guns is if we get rid of Democrats first. But since that can't be done Lord knows we've tried we need to arm ourselves.
If you really believe that you give a good example of the biggest problem in this country, not dangerous democrats but the lack of shared realities. Two farmers are facing each other on their property line. One farmer says, "It's your responsibility to fix this fence". The other farmer says, "What fence?" Obvious these two farmers will never have a fence cost sharing agreement. In our country we can't agree on so many things because we can't agree on the facts; that is we are in a totally differ reality.
 
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If you really believe that you give a good example of the biggest problem in this country, not dangerous democrats but the lack of shared realities. Two farmers are facing each other on their property line. One farmer says, "It's your responsibility to fix this fence". The other farmer says, "What fence?" Obvious these two farmers will never have a fence cost sharing agreement. In our country we can't agree on so many things because we can't agree on the facts; that is we are in a totally differ reality.
You can't be a conservative unless you do live in reality.

If I have to go to my convenient store after dark, I don't strap on my gun because I'm afraid a Republican is going to rob the place, hit me over the head and steal my wallet. I'm afraid of a Democrat doing that.

If I go to the ATM to make a deposit after dark, I'm not worried about a conservative wedging between my car and the machine, sticking a gun in my face forcing me to withdraw as much as I can. I'm worried about a leftist doing that to me.

Leftists are violent people. We spent much of the 2020 summer witnessing that. We've read stories about people wearing anything MAGA getting attacked all the time, even a child in a few instances. I'm sure you've seen it multiple times, but Maxine Waters went out in public telling her followers anytime you see anybody associated with Trump, accost them, at the bank, in restaurants, anywhere. Did you ever see a conservative Congress person or Senator doing that?

What we can agree on is we can't agree. The left went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, from progressive to Socialist Democrat, and we don't see that trend stopping anytime soon. Eventually it will just be pure Communism.

It's why I have been suggesting here for some time now that we need to have a total separation. We need to have two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle of our country from north to south; conservatives have their own country, and so do liberals. Then we build a huge Trump wall to keep the Democrats out. Anybody in between will just have to choose which side they'd rather live on.

I call my idea Mom's Law. As children, when my siblings and I fought with each other, eventually my mother got sick of yelling at us to stop, and placed us in separate rooms. It wasn't until we missed each other and promised if reunited, we would work out our differences that we were joined back together. This is what needs to happen to our country.
 

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I have not found that to be the case. Well operators are almost always highly leveraged; that is they have stiff loan payments to be made every month. So it's better to sell the oil about $20 a barrel lower than last year than deal with creditors with no revenue in hopes of higher prices. Last spring when the bottom fell out the market there was such a glut of oil on the market that no one wanted to buy simple because they didn't have a place to put it. That's not the case now.
Here gasoline is still $2.39 a gallon, a price similar to what we had over ten years ago. The point I make is what happens if Biden stops all fracking. It will be the exact opposite. We will be back to buying oil from the middle-east, and of course that puts us at the mercy of OPEC which we haven't been for several years now. I don't want to see that happen.
 

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Biden isn't going to shut down fracking. It's pretty well shut down right now due to the expense to frack not being economical. And Biden has zero to do with that. Anymore than Rump.....well, let me rethink that since the demand is largely from the Covid but that's another discussion for another time.

The same goes as less and less need at the pumps as we move forward. Imagine how the Barley and Oat dealers felt when the Automobile showed up as the ruling method of transportation. Or the guy that used to scoop up all the Horse Manure being put out of a job. You want to turn the calendar back to a time, let's go back to 1888. Just watch where you step.
There is nothing stopping Biden from shutting down fracking. Don't say he won't do it because he may. Whorris sure said she would, and if we are to be honest, she is the one that will actually be making the decisions in the White House.

Nobody can predict the future, but currently 17 million Americans had the vaccination. I'm going to sign up for one next week as I've been advised I'm next given my serious medical conditions. This virus may be a virtual thing of the past come late spring or early summer.

When that happens, the economy will pick back up unless we throw a monkey wrench into the system, and that monkey wrench is hair sniffer himself.

If Biden is able to get his agendas across such as a national minimum wage of $15.00 an hour, tax increases on our job creators, bringing back Commie Care burdens, increase capital gains taxes but leaves fracking alone, we will be okay because he will be destroying the economy at the same time. But if he doesn't get any of his agendas passed except fracking and the economy starts doing well, supply and demand kicks in because we will be using much more fuel, and the prices skyrocket.
 

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Seriously? When Trumptards make arguments for why we need guns, what is their go-to argument?
It's quite simple really. The reason we need guns is because of Democrats. The only way for us to get rid of guns is if we get rid of Democrats first. But since that can't be done Lord knows we've tried we need to arm ourselves.
If you really believe that you give a good example of the biggest problem in this country, not dangerous democrats but the lack of shared realities. Two farmers are facing each other on their property line. One farmer says, "It's your responsibility to fix this fence". The other farmer says, "What fence?" Obvious these two farmers will never have a fence cost sharing agreement. In our country we can't agree on so many things because we can't agree on the facts; that is we are in a totally differ reality.
That happens in the suburbs all the time; no one pulls out a gun.
 

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If you really believe that you give a good example of the biggest problem in this country, not dangerous democrats but the lack of shared realities. Two farmers are facing each other on their property line. One farmer says, "It's your responsibility to fix this fence". The other farmer says, "What fence?" Obvious these two farmers will never have a fence cost sharing agreement. In our country we can't agree on so many things because we can't agree on the facts; that is we are in a totally differ reality.
You can't be a conservative unless you do live in reality.

If I have to go to my convenient store after dark, I don't strap on my gun because I'm afraid a Republican is going to rob the place, hit me over the head and steal my wallet. I'm afraid of a Democrat doing that.

If I go to the ATM to make a deposit after dark, I'm not worried about a conservative wedging between my car and the machine, sticking a gun in my face forcing me to withdraw as much as I can. I'm worried about a leftist doing that to me.

Leftists are violent people. We spent much of the 2020 summer witnessing that. We've read stories about people wearing anything MAGA getting attacked all the time, even a child in a few instances. I'm sure you've seen it multiple times, but Maxine Waters went out in public telling her followers anytime you see anybody associated with Trump, accost them, at the bank, in restaurants, anywhere. Did you ever see a conservative Congress person or Senator doing that?

What we can agree on is we can't agree. The left went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, from progressive to Socialist Democrat, and we don't see that trend stopping anytime soon. Eventually it will just be pure Communism.

It's why I have been suggesting here for some time now that we need to have a total separation. We need to have two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle of our country from north to south; conservatives have their own country, and so do liberals. Then we build a huge Trump wall to keep the Democrats out. Anybody in between will just have to choose which side they'd rather live on.

I call my idea Mom's Law. As children, when my siblings and I fought with each other, eventually my mother got sick of yelling at us to stop, and placed us in separate rooms. It wasn't until we missed each other and promised if reunited, we would work out our differences that we were joined back together. This is what needs to happen to our country.
No it has to be 3 countries. East, West and Middle.
 

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If you really believe that you give a good example of the biggest problem in this country, not dangerous democrats but the lack of shared realities. Two farmers are facing each other on their property line. One farmer says, "It's your responsibility to fix this fence". The other farmer says, "What fence?" Obvious these two farmers will never have a fence cost sharing agreement. In our country we can't agree on so many things because we can't agree on the facts; that is we are in a totally differ reality.
You can't be a conservative unless you do live in reality.

If I have to go to my convenient store after dark, I don't strap on my gun because I'm afraid a Republican is going to rob the place, hit me over the head and steal my wallet. I'm afraid of a Democrat doing that.

If I go to the ATM to make a deposit after dark, I'm not worried about a conservative wedging between my car and the machine, sticking a gun in my face forcing me to withdraw as much as I can. I'm worried about a leftist doing that to me.

Leftists are violent people. We spent much of the 2020 summer witnessing that. We've read stories about people wearing anything MAGA getting attacked all the time, even a child in a few instances. I'm sure you've seen it multiple times, but Maxine Waters went out in public telling her followers anytime you see anybody associated with Trump, accost them, at the bank, in restaurants, anywhere. Did you ever see a conservative Congress person or Senator doing that?

What we can agree on is we can't agree. The left went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, from progressive to Socialist Democrat, and we don't see that trend stopping anytime soon. Eventually it will just be pure Communism.

It's why I have been suggesting here for some time now that we need to have a total separation. We need to have two countries instead of one. Draw a line right down the middle of our country from north to south; conservatives have their own country, and so do liberals. Then we build a huge Trump wall to keep the Democrats out. Anybody in between will just have to choose which side they'd rather live on.

I call my idea Mom's Law. As children, when my siblings and I fought with each other, eventually my mother got sick of yelling at us to stop, and placed us in separate rooms. It wasn't until we missed each other and promised if reunited, we would work out our differences that we were joined back together. This is what needs to happen to our country.
No it has to be 3 countries. East, West and Middle.
The Middle would be the biggest by far.
 
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Seriously? When Trumptards make arguments for why we need guns, what is their go-to argument?
It's quite simple really. The reason we need guns is because of Democrats. The only way for us to get rid of guns is if we get rid of Democrats first. But since that can't be done Lord knows we've tried we need to arm ourselves.
So then you agree that Conservatives believe they need guns to violently overthrow the DNC.
Well, Trump spent the last two months lying about the Democrats stealing an election, thus overturning our Democracy. Of course crazy people like you took Trump seriously and tried to kill Democrats. This is how Trump, Don Jr, and Rudy incited a riot.
 

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Seriously? When Trumptards make arguments for why we need guns, what is their go-to argument?
It's quite simple really. The reason we need guns is because of Democrats. The only way for us to get rid of guns is if we get rid of Democrats first. But since that can't be done Lord knows we've tried we need to arm ourselves.
So then you agree that Conservatives believe they need guns to violently overthrow the DNC.
Well, Trump spent the last two months lying about the Democrats stealing an election, thus overturning our Democracy. Of course crazy people like you took Trump seriously and tried to kill Democrats. This is how Trump, Don Jr, and Rudy incited a riot.

who has been killing people in the USA over the past
Year?. How many bullets were fired in the UN Capitol building and by whom? How many Molotov cocktails were tossed and by whom? Try to answer----do that people like you do----HIDE and LIE
 

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He’s gone You won But there is No Talk about what good Biden may bring moving forward.

It never WAS about Biden. That's the great lie about him being the most popular president in history! I bet you can't find even one thread here extolling the great ideas, plans or agenda that Joe envisions!

And if you ever do, then I'll ask you why those ideas weren't implemented during the EIGHT YEARS while Biden and Obumma owned the White House and had control of most or all of the Congress?

If Joe didn't get it done then or during his 48 years in government, it is a FOOL'S ERRAND to believe he'll do it now.

Whatever Joe does will be at the behest of whatever puppet strings yank him around now grabbing power for themselves.
No one on the left is touting Biden is the most popular president in history!

That's TRUMP Talk,

Biden doesn't care about that kind of vain crap like Trump.

Biden got 81.2 million votes, but it was made up of quite a bit, of people just firing Donald J Trump.... No second term for him.

Plus, the 2020 election had an unusually big increase in registered voters, actually voting ...due to the absentee ballot use during this pandemic.
 
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On the first page of Politics there are 12 thread titles with Trumps name in it and 4 with Biden
You won
Learn how to enjoy something
 

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Plus, the 2020 election had an unusually big increase in registered voters, actually voting ...due to the absentee ballot use during this pandemic.
Not really. What happened is the commies were able to nail the welfare crowd; the people that don't usually vote because they don't want to get their lazy asses to the polls. So they mail them ballots, plop one in their laps with a postage paid envelope, and they get to vote at their kitchen table. No effort required. People that know nothing about politics, our country or issues vote Democrat.

If not for Covid, the creepy hair sniffer wouldn't have stood a chance. But remember: you won't have that going into 2022.
 

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So then you agree that Conservatives believe they need guns to violently overthrow the DNC.
Well, Trump spent the last two months lying about the Democrats stealing an election, thus overturning our Democracy. Of course crazy people like you took Trump seriously and tried to kill Democrats. This is how Trump, Don Jr, and Rudy incited a riot.
None of them incited anything. The commies actually used the impeachment process to impeach a sitting President for exercising his first amendment constitutional rights. Democrats hate the Constitution; they always have. But now Big Brother has gotten so big that they are impeaching people protected by this sacred document. I have no idea why you people stay here. You should move to Cuba or North Korea where they run things the way you like.
 
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Plus, the 2020 election had an unusually big increase in registered voters, actually voting ...due to the absentee ballot use during this pandemic.
Not really. What happened is the commies were able to nail the welfare crowd; the people that don't usually vote because they don't want to get their lazy asses to the polls. So they mail them ballots, plop one in their laps with a postage paid envelope, and they get to vote at their kitchen table. No effort required. People that know nothing about politics, our country or issues vote Democrat.

If not for Covid, the creepy hair sniffer wouldn't have stood a chance. But remember: you won't have that going into 2022.
That is solace. As Americans feel the expense of Bidens acts they would turn the other direction in 2022
 

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I have not found that to be the case. Well operators are almost always highly leveraged; that is they have stiff loan payments to be made every month. So it's better to sell the oil about $20 a barrel lower than last year than deal with creditors with no revenue in hopes of higher prices. Last spring when the bottom fell out the market there was such a glut of oil on the market that no one wanted to buy simple because they didn't have a place to put it. That's not the case now.
Here gasoline is still $2.39 a gallon, a price similar to what we had over ten years ago. The point I make is what happens if Biden stops all fracking. It will be the exact opposite. We will be back to buying oil from the middle-east, and of course that puts us at the mercy of OPEC which we haven't been for several years now. I don't want to see that happen.
Again, it won't be Biden that stops fracking. Using your logic, Rump must have stopped the fracking during his 4 years since fracking right now is almost non existant. Or could it be that the demand for the oil is so low that there are cheaper, easier ways to get the crude. In a way, Rump did stop the fracking. He allowed the Pandemic to run rampant for a year and that lowered the demand.

The first step in healing the nation is for you Rumpers to either leave to a country with laws more to your liking like Yemen or just stop lying.
 

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Plus, the 2020 election had an unusually big increase in registered voters, actually voting ...due to the absentee ballot use during this pandemic.
Not really. What happened is the commies were able to nail the welfare crowd; the people that don't usually vote because they don't want to get their lazy asses to the polls. So they mail them ballots, plop one in their laps with a postage paid envelope, and they get to vote at their kitchen table. No effort required. People that know nothing about politics, our country or issues vote Democrat.

If not for Covid, the creepy hair sniffer wouldn't have stood a chance. But remember: you won't have that going into 2022.
In some ways, I agree. Well, I don't agree with the lies you have just said but I agree, had it not been for Covid, Rump would have been reelected, maybe. If he had put the needs of the Nation over his own, no Impeachment. And we would have prospered at the same rate we were doing (increasing) before Rump broke everything. Even with the nightmare of the Tariffs, he still would have been reelected. But he kept doing,"Here hold my beer" moments. This last thing on the 6th was, "Here, hold my entire refinery".

Biden didn't win a thing. He was just standing there like a Ham Sandwich and a Ham Sandwich would have been elected over Rump. But you rumpsters keep right on making sure you won't be taken back into civilization. You won't stop lying. You remind me less of an American and more along the lines of ISIS or the Taliban.
 

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He’s gone You won But there is No Talk about what good Biden may bring moving forward.

It never WAS about Biden. That's the great lie about him being the most popular president in history! I bet you can't find even one thread here extolling the great ideas, plans or agenda that Joe envisions!

And if you ever do, then I'll ask you why those ideas weren't implemented during the EIGHT YEARS while Biden and Obumma owned the White House and had control of most or all of the Congress?

If Joe didn't get it done then or during his 48 years in government, it is a FOOL'S ERRAND to believe he'll do it now.

Whatever Joe does will be at the behest of whatever puppet string yank him around now grabbing power for themselves.
I think we all know why Joe Biden ran and why he is the president elect. He is in all respects, the opposite of Donald Trump. Unlike Trump, he ask for advice and often follows it. He relies on his experience and knowledge as too what works in government while Trump relies on his experience in business. Biden believes communication with the American public should be clear and concise, not the Trump off the cuff ideas and rambling statements subject to debate and confusion. Where Trump was mostly concerned with making changes, Biden is far more interesting in running the government to see that it does what he thinks it should be doing. In other words, Biden will be far more of a traditional president and that is what most Americans want right now. They were simply tired of Trump's crazy antics and daily attract tweet.

For most Americans, Trump was an oddity, a showman who was fascinating to watch because almost everything he did was unscripted. You get the impression listening to Trump that he only has a general idea of what he's going to say. Ideas that pop into his head flow out out his mouth often making much of his monologues incoherent but appealing because they seem honest. It didn't take long for this unconventional president to reveal his lack of empathy and need for self-aggrandizement. However, Trump's lack of interest, lack of leadership, and lack of empathy during the epidemic drove millions of Americans to believe he was the worst thing that has ever happened to the country. While thousands were dying from the virus everyday, Donald Trump was turning the preventive methods into a political issue. Not wearing masking and ignoring social distancing became a loyalty test in the Trump campaign.
You came here and offered up rational discourse? What were you thinking, man? What were you thinking? The orange trolls will be here to eviscerate you in no time.
 

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Plus, the 2020 election had an unusually big increase in registered voters, actually voting ...due to the absentee ballot use during this pandemic.
Not really. What happened is the commies were able to nail the welfare crowd; the people that don't usually vote because they don't want to get their lazy asses to the polls. So they mail them ballots, plop one in their laps with a postage paid envelope, and they get to vote at their kitchen table. No effort required. People that know nothing about politics, our country or issues vote Democrat.

If not for Covid, the creepy hair sniffer wouldn't have stood a chance. But remember: you won't have that going into 2022.
In some ways, I agree. Well, I don't agree with the lies you have just said but I agree, had it not been for Covid, Rump would have been reelected, maybe. If he had put the needs of the Nation over his own, no Impeachment. And we would have prospered at the same rate we were doing (increasing) before Rump broke everything. Even with the nightmare of the Tariffs, he still would have been reelected. But he kept doing,"Here hold my beer" moments. This last thing on the 6th was, "Here, hold my entire refinery".

Biden didn't win a thing. He was just standing there like a Ham Sandwich and a Ham Sandwich would have been elected over Rump. But you rumpsters keep right on making sure you won't be taken back into civilization. You won't stop lying. You remind me less of an American and more along the lines of ISIS or the Taliban.
I agree that trump would’ve won if it weren’t for COVID. If Trump had had the sense to mask up and encouraged his rabid followers to mask up, things would’ve gone a lot better and people wouldn’t have turned on him.

all he had to to to get re-elected was to mask up.
 

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