Power the WORLD with solar panels!

[Old Rocks]

"Agrivoltaics? "I've never even heard that term before.


Got any other links. That guy is a nutjob.

No, your problem is that you are the nutjob. But yes, there are many people on Youtube that have explanations of Agrivoltaics. Go there yourself, I am not paid to be your personal teacher.

 

[elektra]

Once more you are a liar. I thought at the time that solar thermal is too complex compared to PV solar. As the material research results in solar panels that are far more efficient, there will be no need for such complex projects.

New Solar Plant Emits Twice CO2 Than Fossil Plant

This development will probably put an end to plants like Ivanpah. The prices are even cheaper now, and Austin, Texas is planning on building a Gw plus plant. PV Power Plants 2014 - Industry Guide: Falling prices, new markets The installation costs are relatively low; even very large solar...

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OK, Mrs. Elektra, once more I have over estimated your intellect. So there is no such thing as liquid air? Lordy, lordy. LOL!

prove it, where is your link, old crock.

 

[elektra]

Once more you are a liar. I thought at the time that solar thermal is too complex compared to PV solar. As the material research results in solar panels that are far more efficient, there will be no need for such complex projects.

It does not seem that you stated it was too complex?

CSP plants could run at 80 percent capacity (or better) throughout the year

CSP plants could run at 80 percent capacity (or better) throughout the year CSP plants could run at 80 percent capacity (or better) throughout the year Researchers at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) have conducted a study to examine the potential for solar...

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In another significant development, Q1 2014 was the largest quarter ever for concentrating solar power (CSP) due to the completion of the 392 megawatt (AC) Ivanpah project and the Genesis Solar project’s second 125 megawatt (AC) phase. With a total of 857 megawatts expected to be completed by year’s end, 2014 is on pace to be the largest year for CSP in history.

Seems there are a bunch of people out there that think that solar, both PV and CSP are good investments.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's about the area of New Mexico. And what if we just put solar panels over every paved road in the U.S. The pavement of just those combined would be enough to pave over the state of West Virginia. Then, bring in rooftops of houses, garages, car ports and buildings. Then what if we put solar panels over all the parking lots. Doing all that you wouldn't be using any unused space at all. Though we still have plenty of useless desert areas that are just begging for large solar arrays.

Driving cars on top of solar panels? That may be your dumbest idea yet.

 

[elektra]

Once more you are a liar. I thought at the time that solar thermal is too complex compared to PV solar. As the material research results in solar panels that are far more efficient, there will be no need for such complex projects.

you dirty filthy scumbag liar! How about your own post, proving you are a filthy ******* liar

Solar energy is dead

Prove it, you run your mouth and ignore your links, as in the wind power thread of yours, I haven't looked at that thread in a week. If you posted anything I am sure it isn't worth reading. I linked to Southern California Edison, how are links to politicians more credible than the...

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Just for mdn;
Biggest Solar Deal Ever Announced ? We’re Talking Gigawatts | Wired Science | Wired.com

The largest series of solar installations in history, more than 1,300 megawatts, is planned for the desert outside Los Angeles, according to a new deal between the utility Southern California Edison and solar power plant maker, BrightSource.

following your link we find out that the first of the seven plants will be Ivanpah

Biggest Solar Deal Ever Announced — We're Talking Gigawatts

The largest series of solar installations in history, more than 1,300 megawatts, is planned for the desert outside Los Angeles, according to a new deal between the utility Southern California Edison and solar power plant maker, BrightSource. The momentous deal will deliver more electricity than...

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The first of the seven installations will be in Ivanpah,

 

[elektra]

Driving cars on top of solar panels? That may be your dumbest idea yet.

It's about the area of New Mexico. And what if we just put solar panels over every paved road in the U.S. The pavement of just those combined would be enough to pave over the state of West Virginia. Then, bring in rooftops of houses, garages, car ports and buildings. Then what if we put solar panels over all the parking lots. Doing all that you wouldn't be using any unused space at all. Though we still have plenty of useless desert areas that are just begging for large solar arrays.

stupidity, yes the dumbest idea yet, and already tried and failed. Hell, they can not keep our roads maintained now, imagine making them out of microchips, which is what solar is.

France's Solar Road Is a Complete Failure

The "Wattway" solar road in France is failing. The road hasn't withstood the pounding of daily use.

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France’s Solar Road Is a Complete Failure​

 

[Synthaholic]

The weakness of solar panels right now is energy storage that we can use at night

We are not there yet

That is being solved in numerous ways, through zinc-based batteries and other battery technology. Look at SunRun Brightbox:

Solar Battery Storage | Rechargeable Storage | Sunrun

Sunrun's solar battery storage harnesses solar energy for use when you need it most. Power through outages with our premium solar batteries. Our batteries for solar panels ensure you get the most out of your system! Find out how.

www.sunrun.com

There are many viable energy storage possibilities already, with more emerging soon.

 

[Synthaholic]

I like Maxeon solar panels. But the U.S. needs to up their game in the silicon production. Corning doesn't have capacity, apparently. I know that their stock price barely moves compared to their Chinese counterparts like Daqo, which went from $38 to $125 and is back down to the $50 range. As did every other Chinese silicon maker. But not Corning.

The problem is the Chinese silicon is made in the Uyghur area where they have their prison camps, so the world community has correctly suppressed their import, hurting the Chinese market and giving the U.S. and Germans (Wacker Industries) an opportunity.

If that political situation is resolved, solar panel production will skyrocket. I'd rather that we not let the Republicans **** it up again like they did with Solyndra, giving this huge industry to the Chinese on a silver platter.

 

[ding]

So you say. But there is somebody else around here who claimed that solar panels would contribute to global warming. I think you're both full of "it."

I hope one day you get to find out

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

We could do it here in the U.S.. Though it would probably take a monumental effort. And to distribute electricity across the globe might take something like Tesla's idea of transmitting power with radio waves. Though it could probably be done by redirecting microwaves from satellites. Just think. We could become the new Saudi Arabia. We have more than enough desert land in the U.S. to do it. I will show you what the total area of solar panels required as compared to the U.S. to do it.

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There isn't enough room for that many solar panels.

 

[Mac-7]

That is being solved in numerous ways, through zinc-based batteries and other battery technology. Look at SunRun Brightbox:

Solar Battery Storage | Rechargeable Storage | Sunrun

Sunrun's solar battery storage harnesses solar energy for use when you need it most. Power through outages with our premium solar batteries. Our batteries for solar panels ensure you get the most out of your system! Find out how.

www.sunrun.com

There are many viable energy storage possibilities already, with more emerging soon.

There are a dozen battery “breakthroughs” floating around on Youtube

But do far its all talk

I do think its only a matter of time before battery storage does achieve what you want

But its not there yet

 

[theHawk]

And the automobile will never replace the horse. Where are you going to get all that gasoline? How will you distribute it. Do you know how many horses and wagons it would take to distribute that fuel to ever road intersection? LOL You Luddites are a joke. DC power lines already distribute massive amounts of energy over long distances.

We already distribute electricity you ******* moron. The point is you cannot transport it over very long distances, why do you think all major power sources are close to the areas they power? Do you think solar produced electrons act differently?

The further the distance, the more loss, and costs go up even more:

After 1000 miles, 8.71% is lost, and delivered power costs at least 19% extra.
After 2000 miles, 17.4% is lost, and delivered power costs at least 42% extra.

 

[Silver Cat]

Global temperatures haven't been this high in the past 18,000 years. And they got there quickly. Do I need a graph for that?

What about Holocene climatic optimum?

Holocene climatic optimum - Wikipedia

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[myself]

bullshit. there is no proof that you are even close to be right.\

Post a study and I will show you were the study states they are just guessing, that they do not know for sure

You are right. I wasn't close to right. I don't know what I was thinking. The earth hasn't been this hot in the last 18,000 years. It hasn't been this hot in the past 125,000 years.

inhabitat.com › the-last-time-earth-was-this-hotThe last time Earth was this hot was 125,000 years ago

 

[myself]

What about Holocene climatic optimum?

Holocene climatic optimum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I was wrong. Look at post #54.

 

[elektra]

You are right. I wasn't close to right. I don't know what I was thinking. The earth hasn't been this hot in the last 18,000 years. It hasn't been this hot in the past 125,000 years.

inhabitat.com › the-last-time-earth-was-this-hotThe last time Earth was this hot was 125,000 years ago

ha, ha, ha, anybody can register a .com and make any claim they wish, so you went to google and found a link? Big deal, I can go to google and find a link that says your link is wrong. That proves nothing.

You can say whatever you want about the earth, starting 200 years ago to 200 million years ago and whatever you state will never be a fact, it will only be a theory. Sadly, nobody was around that could record temperatures so everything is theory convoluted through a computer model.

Anyhow, your article does not cite any studies or reports. This is all you have ever done, searched your opinion and when you find a propagandist site, you think you have confirmed your opinion. Hardly is the case.

Now how about the TMI radiation release?? There are many types of radiation, what kind was it?

 

[myself]

Driving cars on top of solar panels? That may be your dumbest idea yet.

I said OVER the roads. Not on them. Though I don't see why we couldn't have pavement covered with solar panels. I have seen places where they surfaced pavement on roads with small rocks glued together. Probably using a hard drying epoxy. Light can pass through such glue. And what if they mixed it with clear sand or glass beads instead of small pebbles. That would let enough light to pass through to solar panels beneath. It may not be as clear as plastic or glass. But it would work well enough. So what if it diffuses the light. Wax paper will also diffuse light. If you took ten layers of it and tried to look at the sun through them, it would still be too bright to look at.

 

[myself]

ha, ha, ha, anybody can register a .com and make any claim they wish, so you went to google and found a link? Big deal, I can go to google and find a link that says your link is wrong. That proves nothing.

You can say whatever you want about the earth, starting 200 years ago to 200 million years ago and whatever you state will never be a fact, it will only be a theory. Sadly, nobody was around that could record temperatures so everything is theory convoluted through a computer model.

Anyhow, your article does not cite any studies or reports. This is all you have ever done, searched your opinion and when you find a propagandist site, you think you have confirmed your opinion. Hardly is the case.

Now how about the TMI radiation release?? There are many types of radiation, what kind was it?

Apparently you aren't very fond of graphs. But I have one for you anyway. As for TMI, their core partially melted down. At Chernobyl their core completely melted down. It is supposed to remain dangerous for the next 4.5 billion years. Apparently they can't get close enough to the melted mass to completely seal it off itself. If the partially melted core at TMI is anything like that, it's bad enough.

 

[elektra]

Apparently you aren't very fond of graphs. But I have one for you anyway. As for TMI, their core partially melted down. At Chernobyl their core completely melted down. It is supposed to remain dangerous for the next 4.5 billion years. Apparently they can't get close enough to the melted mass to completely seal it off itself. If the partially melted core at TMI is anything like that, it's bad enough.

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The Reactor Core at three mile island has already been removed.

You really do not know anything about Nuclear power and hence radiation. The containment building is still there. Still radioactive inside. Hence a bit expensive to dismantle but it could be done today. Just expensive. In 60 years the radiation levels will be at a harmless level, so workers will be able to enter and dismantle the plant with zero problems from radiation.

It is known as HALF LIFE. In 60 years the radioactive elements in TMI will have decayed to harmless levels.

The nuclear fuel is already removed with zero incidents.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Though I don't see why we couldn't have pavement covered with solar panels.

Because it would be stupid.