Poor Trump and MAGA are victimized by everything and everyone

[krichton]

It's taught me a lot about this country, that's for sure.

People like Trump will always exist. What I find shocking is how low we've lowered the bar for scum like him to get into office. Look at all the cast of characters who have been elected since he won the presidency the first time. When would you ever see a clown like MTG win an election for any office anywhere? Worse even is the democrats are so incompetent they can't even muster enough votes to beat these morons. This country has turned into a complete shit show.

 

[krichton]

Would those be the "convictions" that will be overturned as soon as they're examined by a higher court?

Keep dreaming. The only way a conviction can be overturned is if they somehow unearth evidence of improper conduct on the part of the prosecution. Trump will remain the first convicted felon ever to be elected to the presidency. This country is now the laughing stock of the world.

 

[Mac1958]

People like Trump will always exist. What I find shocking is how low we've lowered the bar for scum like him to get into office. Look at all the cast of characters who have been elected since he won the presidency the first time. When would you ever see a clown like MTG win an election for any office anywhere? Worse even is the democrats are so incompetent they can't even muster enough votes to beat these morons. This country has turned into a complete shit show.

Yeah, this has never been about Trump. He's unique in his awful behaviors and unfiltered neuroses, but this has always been about a country that would so easily and completely buy what he's been selling. Win at all costs. Win by being The Bad Guy. It's inexplicable. He's just taken advantage of the opportunity.

Combine that with a Democratic Party that had gone completely off the rails, and you have a toxic situation.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Keep dreaming. The only way a conviction can be overturned is if they somehow unearth evidence of improper conduct on the part of the prosecution. Trump will remain the first convicted felon ever to be elected to the presidency. This country is now the laughing stock of the world.

A conviction can be overturned if there is evidence of judicial misconduct or prosecutorial misconduct...which is EXACTLY why Trump's "convictions" will be overturned because there is ample evidence of BOTH!

We were the laughingstock of the world when we had Joe Biden for our President. We may not be "liked" now but you better believe we're respected!

 

[Man With A Plan]

People like Trump will always exist. What I find shocking is how low we've lowered the bar for scum like him to get into office. Look at all the cast of characters who have been elected since he won the presidency the first time. When would you ever see a clown like MTG win an election for any office anywhere? Worse even is the democrats are so incompetent they can't even muster enough votes to beat these morons. This country has turned into a complete shit show.

You want to talk about a clown show? Look at the people that make up the Democrat Party these days! It's a collection of idiots and liars. Maxine Waters? AOC? Adam Schiff? Jerry Nadler? Dan Goldman? Elizabeth Warren? Karen Bass? Kathy Hochul? Richard Blumenthal? Eric Swalwell? Jamie Raskin? Ilhan Omar? Rashida Tlaib? Why would anyone want to vote for these people?

Yeah, this has never been about Trump. He's unique in his awful behaviors and unfiltered neuroses, but this has always been about a country that would so easily and completely buy what he's been selling. Win at all costs. Win by being The Bad Guy. It's inexplicable. He's just taken advantage of the opportunity.

Combine that with a Democratic Party that had gone completely off the rails, and you have a toxic situation.

Would you like to take a crack at explaining why actually fixing the border is "toxic"? Why deporting dangerous individuals from the US is "toxic"? Why cutting waste and fraud in Government programs is "toxic"? Why working hard to stop armed conflicts is "toxic"? Why getting rid of violent protests on our campuses is "toxic"? Why having trillions of dollars in investment money flowing into the country is "toxic"? Why getting trade deals that benefit American workers and create jobs is "toxic"?

 

[Mac1958]

Would you like to take a crack at explaining why actually fixing the border is "toxic"? Why deporting dangerous individuals from the US is "toxic"? Why cutting waste and fraud in Government programs is "toxic"? Why working hard to stop armed conflicts is "toxic"? Why getting rid of violent protests on our campuses is "toxic"? Why having trillions of dollars in investment money flowing into the country is "toxic"? Why getting trade deals that benefit American workers and create jobs is "toxic"?

I don't expect you to understand this.

From the first line of my sig:

My disagreement may not be about what you're trying to accomplish. It may just be about the way you're trying to accomplish it.

 

[hadit]

I don't expect you to understand this.

From the first line of my sig:

My disagreement may not be about what you're trying to accomplish. It may just be about the way you're trying to accomplish it.

Had those in charge done what needed to be done the quiet way decades ago, we wouldn't be doing it the noisy way now. I wouldn't want to live with or work for TRUMP!, but I don't see anyone else in the political landscape willing and/or able to do what needs to be done. After he is gone in a few years, the country resumes its inevitable spiral around the drain and relatively soon, everyone looks around and wonders why all of a sudden everything sucks.

 

[jc456]

I had gone my whole life looking at America as The Good Guy. Yeah, we've had our missteps and our screwups and our bad deeds, but every country has those. But overall, America was a force for good, and for progress, in the world.

So this role-switching will take some getting used to. I sure wasn't expecting it.

Oh well! It is what it is!

I see you all don't even know what a victim is.

 

[Mac1958]

I see you all don't even know what a victim is.

You're the victim. I know.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, this has never been about Trump. He's unique in his awful behaviors and unfiltered neuroses, but this has always been about a country that would so easily and completely buy what he's been selling. Win at all costs. Win by being The Bad Guy. It's inexplicable. He's just taken advantage of the opportunity.

Combine that with a Democratic Party that had gone completely off the rails, and you have a toxic situation.

so performing sovereign nation policies by defending ourselves is awful?????

 

[jc456]

You're the victim. I know.

Nope, I was expecting you would provide your definition of a victim.

 

[Man With A Plan]

I don't expect you to understand this.

From the first line of my sig:

My disagreement may not be about what you're trying to accomplish. It may just be about the way you're trying to accomplish it.

You throw out a term like "toxic" like it's no big deal, Mac but when you're asked to defend it's use your response is that you can't because there's a problem with me not being able to understand your point of view. I find that to be intellectually lazy.

 

[krichton]

A conviction can be overturned if there is evidence of judicial misconduct or prosecutorial misconduct...which is EXACTLY why Trump's "convictions" will be overturned because there is ample evidence of BOTH!

We were the laughingstock of the world when we had Joe Biden for our President. We may not be "liked" now but you better believe we're respected!

Annnd, why do you suppose that none of Trump's lawyers could find any such "evidence" during the trial. Why wasn't Trump's lawyer able to dispute a single change thrown against him and only used his right to presidential immunity as his sole defense? You're living in a fantasy world.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Annnd, why do you suppose that none of Trump's lawyers could find any such "evidence" during the trial. Why wasn't Trump's lawyer able to dispute a single change thrown against him and only used his right to presidential immunity as his sole defense? You're living in a fantasy world.

During the trial the presiding judge controls the proceedings. If he's blatantly partisan there's nothing you can do about that except to file an appeal which Trump did immediately. Quite frankly I'd be shocked if all of the "convictions" aren't dismissed on appeal.

 

[krichton]

During the trial the presiding judge controls the proceedings. If he's blatantly partisan there's nothing you can do about that except to file an appeal which Trump did immediately. Quite frankly I'd be shocked if all of the "convictions" aren't dismissed on appeal.

Trump would have filed an appeal even if he had won the trial, that's how he rolls lol

Are you saying Marchan was blatantly partisan?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

During the trial the presiding judge controls the proceedings. If he's blatantly partisan there's nothing you can do about that except to file an appeal which Trump did immediately. Quite frankly I'd be shocked if all of the "convictions" aren't dismissed on appeal.

So, you don't even respect due process in a court of law. Why would anyone take your opinion seriously?

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump would have filed an appeal even if he had won the trial, that's how he rolls lol

Are you saying Marchan was blatantly partisan?

Duh

 

[Man With A Plan]

So, you don't even respect due process in a court of law. Why would anyone take your opinion seriously?

You really expect me to "respect" the way that Arthur Engeron conducted his court, Tumblin? You want me to "respect" how Tish James abused the power of her office? The whole debacle was a black eye for New York. The American people recognized that. The left's attempt to prevent Trump from campaigning by forcing him to defend multiple lawfare cases in multiple courtrooms backfired on them. Americans know unfairness when they see it and what was done to Trump was grossly unfair.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Trump would have filed an appeal even if he had won the trial, that's how he rolls lol

Are you saying Marchan was blatantly partisan?

It's Merchan and yes...I'm saying that he was blatantly partisan.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You really expect me to "respect" the way that Arthur Engeron conducted his court, Tumblin? You want me to "respect" how Tish James abused the power of her office? The whole debacle was a black eye for New York. The American people recognized that. The left's attempt to prevent Trump from campaigning by forcing him to defend multiple lawfare cases in multiple courtrooms backfired on them. Americans know unfairness when they see it and what was done to Trump was grossly unfair.

Yeah. The orange bag O' shit is perpetually the victim here.

Practically Jesus.