POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

[TimFitz]

You say you want to have an honest conversation about President Trump, and then your poll omits the main thing about him - that his policies are good for America while the Democrsts’ policies are harmful - and then focus on personality and character.

Intelligent Americans prevailed in this Election, and we will return the country back to normalcy.

Trump was an ineffective President.

He inherited a healthy and growing economy. He borrowed a trillion against it and handed it to Wall Street.

Trump’s foreign policy was an exercise in reckless self destruction, embarrassing fawning over the likes of Kim, and efforts to attack and deride our long term allies.

And now, Trump is blustering about mass deportations, trade wars, and trying to pass off appeasement to Moscow as being a “peacemaker”

No, the morons, bigots and bible thumpers won.

 

[Nostra]

So my personal opinions are lies?

Okay.

You violated your "pledge" you made in your first sentence almost immediately, Simp.

You are a troll.



Okay, so I'll pledge to keep any criticism or any degree of attacks out of this conversation.

Personally, while I have several general issue agreements with MAGA (see link at bottom here), I also believe (as do many across the political spectrum) that getting what I may want politically is not worth selling my soul to anyone (and that's what I think it is), let alone a person of such deeply poor moral character and obvious mental instability. I/we also strongly disagree with this simplistic, heavy, ham-handed approach, refusal to collaborate/innovate, and obvious indications of European-style autocratic authoritarianism.

 

[Hollie]

Not really.

Most of what you ranted is hyperbolic bullshit.

Your beloved fuhrer IS owned by Moscow. He kowtows to them every time. Yes, they did throw their resources into his campaign, and coordinated with it in order to advance Moscow’s agenda. Which Trump has been all to happy to accommodate.

No, it is your fuhrer who openly talks about weaponizing the DoJ. And it is your fuhrer who talks about using the US military against his own people.

There is no evidence that Hispanic immigrants



Trump was an ineffective President.

He inherited a healthy and growing economy. He borrowed a trillion against it and handed it to Wall Street.

Trump’s foreign policy was an exercise in reckless self destruction, embarrassing fawning over the likes of Kim, and efforts to attack and deride our long term allies.

And now, Trump is blustering about mass deportations, trade wars, and trying to pass off appeasement to Moscow as being a “peacemaker”

No, the morons, bigots and bible thumpers won.

Hoo boy. The Russia conspiracy theorists cling to their conspiracies like barnacles to the Hull of a ship.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Whatever gets you thru the day my friend.

I try to educate those in need of education.

 

[TimFitz]

Insisting that your lies and beliefs are facts, just because you capitalize the word doesn’t cut it.

Facts are not your friends.

 

[berg80]

Across the country, states’ criminal and civil legal systems vary quite a bit in how they define rape and other charges of sexual violence. Some, like Idaho, explicitly require penile penetration to be present for a rape charge, while others like Maine and Maryland have a more expansive definition of sexual violence that encompasses non-penetrative acts. Several states don’t have any “rape” charge at all, but opt for language like “criminal sexual assault” or “sexual battery.” Similarly, the phrase “sexual intercourse” takes on different meanings depending on the legal text.

In short, the same person could commit precisely the same crime and be charged with entirely different things based on the court room’s address.

IOW, if the trial had taken place in ME the verdict would have been trump being financially liable based on his rape of Carroll.

 

[TimFitz]

Hoo boy. The Russia conspiracy theorists cling to their conspiracies like barnacles to the Hull of a ship.

That’s because they are not theories.

They were well documented facts. Trump and his allies never challenged any of the extensive evidence.

 

[berg80]

I try to educate those in need of education.

Charity starts at home, if you get my drift.

 

[Hollie]

Across the country, states’ criminal and civil legal systems vary quite a bit in how they define rape and other charges of sexual violence. Some, like Idaho, explicitly require penile penetration to be present for a rape charge, while others like Maine and Maryland have a more expansive definition of sexual violence that encompasses non-penetrative acts. Several states don’t have any “rape” charge at all, but opt for language like “criminal sexual assault” or “sexual battery.” Similarly, the phrase “sexual intercourse” takes on different meanings depending on the legal text.

In short, the same person could commit precisely the same crime and be charged with entirely different things based on the court room’s address.

IOW, if the trial had taken place in ME the verdict would have been trump being financially liable based on his rape of Carroll.

That’s a lot of cutting and pasting to try and justify your fraudulent claims.

 

[Mac1958]

You must be an optimist by nature. Cuz expecting trumples to engage in a rational, insult free discussion is like putting raw meat in front of a bear and expecting it not to eat.

Yeah. Optimism and curiosity are not good mixes with politics.

 

[Nostra]

Insisting that your lies and beliefs are facts, just because you capitalize the word doesn’t cut it.

Facts are not your friends.

The innerweb irony meter just exploded

 

[berg80]

Ummm, no. Voters prioritized the successes of the first Trump administration aand overwhelmingly rejected the failings of a decrepit Biden and cackling Princess.

Right. He had so many successes he lost the 2020 election by over twice as many votes as he won in 2024.

 

[TimFitz]

Super. You are forced to retreat to cutting and pasting from far left tabloids.


Troll the checkout lines at the supermarket for more tabloid garbage.

No, that where Trumpsters get their “news”

 

[Hollie]

That’s because they are not theories.

They were well documented facts. Trump and his allies never challenged any of the extensive evidence.

Of course not, dear. Your “extensive evidence” being the Steele Dossier is a fraud you can cling to but don’t expect other to buy into your delusions and conspiracy theories.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Charity starts at home, if you get my drift.

Then you better hurry on home fool. If I were you I would drop the TDS on the way.

 

[Hollie]

Right. He had so many successes he lost the 2020 election by over twice as many votes as he won in 2024.

Right, and with Biden propped up by your Rawstory and motherjones tabloids you got the creepy old guy who showers with hid daughter and the cackling, Venn diagram / coconut tree Princess.

 

[Hollie]

No, that where Trumpsters get their “news”

It was the leftist TDS addled types using the “Rawstory” and “ motherjones” links. Try paying attention and you will be a bit less the buffoon.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Most of the attacks are made up bullshit by butthurt people. Trump is not racist not does he attack women, his court cases are lies and exaggerated bullshit as well. He has strong opinions and a sense of what he wants done and is not afraid to go after that, this worries the powers that he threatens, and he is A THREAT to the status quo.

So, you're a #2.

 

[Mac1958]

So, you're a #2.

Yep, that's clearly been the case for many who didn't vote. Interwoven with the standard personal insults and name-calling, of course.

 

[j-mac]

Like I said...........CULT.

A name hurled by losers that couldn't win an election are meaningless...But, I do hope it makes you feel better....

For believing AND voting for the orange retard?

Boo hoo! cry some more...

YES.

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Sure...........

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