POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

[Nuthin' Fancy]

She planned the riot
She needed the riot.

Pelosi also gave a wonderful speech at the ellipse, earlier in the day.

 

[Lisa558]

I NEVER called it an insurrection, I always call it an FBI setup.

They never caught the guy placing pipe bombs on video. Why not?

I also want to know why Pelosi turned down Trump’s request for the National Guaed in case things got out of hand.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I also want to know why Pelosi turned down Trump’s request for the National Guaed in case things got out of hand.

If Trump requested the NG, the NG would have been there.
No one can turn down the president.

I want to know why the NG would be needed for a political rally in the first place?

 

[kyzr]

Republican analysis finds?????​

Too funny.

Moody's says Bidenflation costs US families $8,500 a year.
Pick the study you prefer that says Biden is a financial disaster for US families.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/economy/inflation-rate-spending/index.html

US inflation means families are spending $709 more per month than two years ago​

"The typical American household spent $709 more in July than they did two years ago to buy the same goods and services, according to Moody’s Analytics."

 

[gipper]

And nothing you have posted has any basis in reality.

Trump is both racist and misogynist, and no good will come of his Presidency because he's an incompetent clown. His re-election in no way legitimizes his lies or his inability to govern.

Trump doesn't "threaten the status quo". He went bankrupt 7 times for a reason - he cannot run anything, except into the ground. He's a lifelong criminal and the worst businessman in world history.

Trump is a threat to everything he touches.

There is no doubt Don is a shitty person, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be an effective potus for the bottom 90% of Americans. We’ve had many really shitty presidents as far as their personality goes. After all, Genocide Joe and K are really shitty persons and you like them. Albeit both are also shitty leaders.

That said I doubt Don will do much good for most Americans, but the 1% should do great. His cabinet picks and top donors are mostly Zionists and neocons. Just like Genocide Joe’s.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I also want to know why Pelosi turned down Trump’s request for the National Guaed in case things got out of hand.

I'd like to know WHO GAVE THE ORDERS:

• To fire on the crowd outside.
• To open the doors of the Capitol and wave in protesters.
• To ESCORT the buffalo guy INTO the House Chamber.

And plenty more.......
The J/6 FEDSURRECTION REICHSTAG FIRE set-up WIIL be solved...
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[kyzr]

If Trump requested the NG, the NG would have been there.
No one can turn down the president.
I want to know why the NG would be needed for a political rally in the first place?

Not only did Trump say "fill the request for the NG on J3, Capitol Police Chief Sund also requested the NG BEFORE J6.

Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat'l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Keith Kellogg said President Donald Trump requested National Guard deployments in Washington D.C. before Jan. 6, 2021.

americanmilitarynews.com

"Kellogg, who was serving as Vice President Mike Pence’s National Security Advisor at the time of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol breach, tweeted last week, “To be clear on 6 Jan/NG. Pg 199 of my book, ‘On 3 Jan the President asked the Def Dept to deploy NG troops’ into DC for J6 contingencies."

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund says his requests for National Guard assistance before and during the riot were repeatedly turned down.

www.usatoday.com

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview​

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.
Sund, who resigned his post the day after the riot, told The Washington Post he had been concerned that the protest planned for Jan. 6 would be larger than expected. Sund said he asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the National Guard be placed on standby.
Sund said House and Senate sergeants at arms told him they were not comfortable with the “optics” of declaring an emergency days before the protest and suggested Sund should informally ask Guard officials to be on alert. Both have since resigned.

Nancy Pelosi is Sgt. at Arms Irving's superior, so we now know who said "NO" to the National Guard troops.

 

[DonGlock26]

I'd like to know WHO GAVE THE ORDERS:

• To fire on the crowd outside.
• To open the doors of the Capitol and wave in protesters.
• To ESCORT the buffalo guy INTO the House Chamber.

And plenty more.......
The J/6 FEDSURRECTION REICHSTAG FIRE set-up WIIL be solved...
-

Let's find out.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Moody's says Bidenflation costs US families $8,500 a year.
Pick the study you prefer that says Biden is a financial disaster for US families.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/economy/inflation-rate-spending/index.html

US inflation means families are spending $709 more per month than two years ago​

"The typical American household spent $709 more in July than they did two years ago to buy the same goods and services, according to Moody’s Analytics."

I didn't take this into consideration.
They cite shelter cost being the main driver for that, so I agree.
I'll add insurance too.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Actually Trump wanted the troops to protect his rally.

Which would have prevented the riot? You know what's really disgusting about what's come out SINCE the Jan. 6th Committee's white wash of events, Kyzr? That Nancy Pelosi scapegoated the Capitol Police Chief, firing him even though he didn't do anything wrong while she turned Michael Byrd, the man who assassinated Ashli Babbitt into a "hero" even though he did EVERYTHING wrong and had a long history of doing just that!

 

[Lisa558]

If Trump requested the NG, the NG would have been there.
No one can turn down the president.

I want to know why the NG would be needed for a political rally in the first place?

Not true. Pelosi is the one who had the power for that.

And The NG would be needed because Trump knew his supporters were angry about all the shenanigans the Democrats pulled on Election Night, and how the courts refused to hear the case, and that a small minority might let their anger spill over,

What possible reason would Pelosi have to enable a riot to take place?

 

[Curried Goats]

Not only did Trump say "fill the request for the NG on J3, Capitol Police Chief Sund also requested the NG BEFORE J6.

Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat'l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Keith Kellogg said President Donald Trump requested National Guard deployments in Washington D.C. before Jan. 6, 2021.

americanmilitarynews.com

"Kellogg, who was serving as Vice President Mike Pence’s National Security Advisor at the time of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol breach, tweeted last week, “To be clear on 6 Jan/NG. Pg 199 of my book, ‘On 3 Jan the President asked the Def Dept to deploy NG troops’ into DC for J6 contingencies."

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund says his requests for National Guard assistance before and during the riot were repeatedly turned down.

www.usatoday.com

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview​

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.
Sund, who resigned his post the day after the riot, told The Washington Post he had been concerned that the protest planned for Jan. 6 would be larger than expected. Sund said he asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the National Guard be placed on standby.
Sund said House and Senate sergeants at arms told him they were not comfortable with the “optics” of declaring an emergency days before the protest and suggested Sund should informally ask Guard officials to be on alert. Both have since resigned.

Nancy Pelosi is Sgt. at Arms Irving's superior, so we now know who said "NO" to the National Guard troops.

You people are stupid. Two things can be true and probably are in this instance. Nancy Pelosi can be guilty of playing politics and being more concerned with optics than security and the security threat posed by violent MAGAts was real and Ashlii Babbit was still a violent rioter who got her dumb ass shot.

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Not only did Trump say "fill the request for the NG on J3, Capitol Police Chief Sund also requested the NG BEFORE J6.

Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat'l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Keith Kellogg said President Donald Trump requested National Guard deployments in Washington D.C. before Jan. 6, 2021.

americanmilitarynews.com

"Kellogg, who was serving as Vice President Mike Pence’s National Security Advisor at the time of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol breach, tweeted last week, “To be clear on 6 Jan/NG. Pg 199 of my book, Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund says his requests for National Guard assistance before and during the riot were repeatedly turned down.

www.usatoday.com

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview​

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.
Sund, who resigned his post the day after the riot, told The Washington Post he had been concerned that the protest planned for Jan. 6 would be larger than expected. Sund said he asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the National Guard be placed on standby.
Sund said House and Senate sergeants at arms told him they were not comfortable with the “optics” of declaring an emergency days before the protest and suggested Sund should informally ask Guard officials to be on alert. Both have since resigned.

Nancy Pelosi is Sgt. at Arms Irving's superior, so we now know who said "NO" to the National Guard troops.

www.law.cornell.edu · uscode · text10 U.S. Code § 12406 - National Guard in Federal service: call​

the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States; the President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws.

Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.

 

[Mac1958]

That’s not true. Many if not most of us believe he has an abrasive personality. But what matters are his policies, which are good for America and Americans.

Then look at Harris. A flip-flopper who is so abusive to her staff that they all quit, AND whose policies are destructive to America.

The choice was clear to everyone but the TDS sufferers, such as yourself.

There is a profound difference between personality and character.

I won't burn time trying to explain that to you.

But I do appreciate the "TDS" thing. That's always a very good sign.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Not true. Pelosi is the one who had the power for that.

BS.

www.snopes.com · fact-check · pelosi-national-guardDid Pelosi Prevent National Guard from Responding to Capitol ...​

Jul 27, 2021 · Pelosi does not have direct control of the National Guard. Jane L. Campbell, president and CEO of the U.S. Capitol Historical Society, told CNN: "The Speaker of the House Pelosi did not prevent the National Guard from responding to the attack on the Capitol. Pelosi does not have direct control of the National Guard.

Jane L. Campbell, president and CEO of the U.S. Capitol Historical Society, told CNN: "The Speaker of the House does not oversee security of the U.S. Capitol, nor does this official oversee the Capitol Police Board."

thedispatch.com · article · fact-check-did-pelosiFact Check: Did Pelosi Reject Trump’s Request for National ...​

Oct 25, 2022 · The claim that Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for a National Guard presence on January 6 is false. “The speaker of the House does not have the power to block an order from


The claim that Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for a National Guard presence on January 6 is false.
“The speaker of the House does not have the power to block an order from the commander in chief,” Drew Hammil, deputy chief of staff for Pelosi, told The Dispatch Fact Check via email.

“This is fiction.”
Josh Huder, a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s Government Affairs Institute, similarly told The Dispatch Fact Check that “the speaker does not have control of any branch of the armed services.”
“The National Guard can only be activated by the president or a governor,” Huder added. “In the case of D.C., it can only be mobilized by the president of the United States.”

And The NG would be needed because Trump knew his supporters were angry about all the shenanigans the Democrats pulled on Election Night, and how the courts refused to hear the case, and that a small minority might let their anger spill over,

If Trump and his cult were worried about riots.
Why didn't Trump cancel the event?

What possible reason would Pelosi have to enable a riot to take place?

She didn't because you're FOS.

 

[Mac1958]

BS.

www.snopes.com · fact-check · pelosi-national-guardDid Pelosi Prevent National Guard from Responding to Capitol ...​

Jul 27, 2021 · Pelosi does not have direct control of the National Guard. Jane L. Campbell, president and CEO of the U.S. Capitol Historical Society, told CNN: "The Speaker of the House Pelosi did not prevent the National Guard from responding to the attack on the Capitol. Pelosi does not have direct control of the National Guard.

Jane L. Campbell, president and CEO of the U.S. Capitol Historical Society, told CNN: "The Speaker of the House does not oversee security of the U.S. Capitol, nor does this official oversee the Capitol Police Board."

thedispatch.com · article · fact-check-did-pelosiFact Check: Did Pelosi Reject Trump’s Request for National ...​

Oct 25, 2022 · The claim that Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for a National Guard presence on January 6 is false. “The speaker of the House does not have the power to block an order from


The claim that Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for a National Guard presence on January 6 is false.
“The speaker of the House does not have the power to block an order from the commander in chief,” Drew Hammil, deputy chief of staff for Pelosi, told The Dispatch Fact Check via email.

“This is fiction.”
Josh Huder, a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s Government Affairs Institute, similarly told The Dispatch Fact Check that “the speaker does not have control of any branch of the armed services.”
“The National Guard can only be activated by the president or a governor,” Huder added. “In the case of D.C., it can only be mobilized by the president of the United States.”




If Trump and his cult were worried about riots.
Why didn't Trump cancel the event?

She didn't because you're FOS.

All this time later, and they're still trying to downplay and point fingers about the Insurrection.

Maybe they'll be more honest after the Seditionist In Chief™ is back in office. But that's doubtful.

 

[eagle1462010]

All this time later, and they're still trying to downplay and point fingers about the Insurrection.

Maybe they'll be more honest after the Seditionist In Chief™ is back in office. But that's doubtful.

Insurrections have guns.

You off your meds again troll

 

[Mac1958]

Insurrections have guns.

You off your meds again troll

Nope.

Dictionary.com says:

 

[DonGlock26]

There is a profound difference between personality and character.

I won't burn time trying to explain that to you.

But I do appreciate the "TDS" thing. That's always a very good sign.

Hey Mac, what's so funny about Pelosi's admission:

Nope.

Dictionary.com says:

Is this an insurrection?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Joins Climate Change Activists In Protest At Nancy Pelosi's Office​