POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

Does Trump's character and history really matter to you?

  • 1. No. I think America has reached a point where I'm willing to overlook both things.

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • 2. The stories of his character and history are lies spread about those who hate him.

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • 3. Other (please comment)

    Votes: 24 60.0%

  • Total voters
    40
We're weak, we're stupid, we're mindless. We're in a cult. We don't belong in Normal World.

Screw you, Mac. Suffer, apologize or get bent.
Apologize for posting my opinion?

I can see this is about hurting feelings.

I apologize for hurting your feelings. However, I will continue to post my opinions and observations. If this is going to cause you further distress, perhaps you should either put me on ignore or just don't read my posts. I am not responsible for your emotional well-being.
 
"The lies told about Trump are massive". That's Option 2. See how easy that was?

Then, instead of deflecting to others, we could have zeroed in on where people draw the line on his character.

That was the point of the thread. That would be a pretty interesting conversation.
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Apologize for posting my opinion?

I can see this is about hurting feelings.

I apologize for hurting your feelings. However, I will continue to post my opinions and observations. If this is going to cause you further distress, perhaps you should either put me on ignore or just don't read my posts. I am not responsible for your emotional well-being.

Trust that you could NEVER hurt my feelings, first.

Second, your opinions and observations are horsesh1t. So there's that.
 
Apologize for posting my opinion?

I can see this is about hurting feelings.

I apologize for hurting your feelings. However, I will continue to post my opinions and observations. If this is going to cause you further distress, perhaps you should either put me on ignore or just don't read my posts. I am not responsible for your emotional well-being.
Your too stupid to hurt feelings with your TDS.

You are a Troll. No one cares
 
Isn't it a sad statement that the use of those troops to keep the Capitol safe was turned down by Nancy Pelosi?

Not really. There should be no need for something like that.


Isn't it an even a sadder statement that she then refused to take responsibility for doing so, even as she fired the Capitol Police Chief while lying about what happened?

A bunch of poor losers that couldn't control themselves.
 
A spoiled rich kid, Trump has always been a lamentable person. Self aggrandizing, selfish, ego-centric, abusive and generally unlikeable. As a candidate for President, he was always undesirable. Yet, America survived his first term and he proved to be far from the worst President (the infamous "W"), that we have ever had. And the candidate selected to oppose him this last time was so totally unacceptable that obviously people preferred him (disclosure; I voted, but for neither). Honestly, I feared a bit more a Harris administration and was (almost) relieved the post did not fall upon her.
What I found interesting is that, in discussions here and elsewhere, my criticisms of the two were more poorly received by the "left" than the "right". I was even vilified by people I had thought friends merely because of not sharing their enthusiasm for Harris. No one from the "right" reacted in such fashion. I get the impression this is a bit indicative of that side of the political spectrum now.
I certainly wish the best for America and if that entails moderating things a bit while Trump gets settled in, that seems appropriate. I do not see the "left" doing that.
 
A spoiled rich kid, Trump has always been a lamentable person. Self aggrandizing, selfish, ego-centric, abusive and generally unlikeable. As a candidate for President, he was always undesirable. Yet, America survived his first term and he proved to be far from the worst President (the infamous "W"), that we have ever had. And the candidate selected to oppose him this last time was so totally unacceptable that obviously people preferred him (disclosure; I voted, but for neither). Honestly, I feared a bit more a Harris administration and was (almost) relieved the post did not fall upon her.
What I found interesting is that, in discussions here and elsewhere, my criticisms of the two were more poorly received by the "left" than the "right". I was even vilified by people I had thought friends merely because of not sharing their enthusiasm for Harris. No one from the "right" reacted in such fashion. I get the impression this is a bit indicative of that side of the political spectrum now.
I certainly wish the best for America and if that entails moderating things a bit while Trump gets settled in, that seems appropriate. I do not see the "left" doing that.
Unless and until the Left recognizes and admits the role it played in the rise of Trumpism, this will continue.

They lost their way. People like Bill Maher and James Carville see it, but a large majority of the Left does not. Or will not.
 
Most of the attacks are made up bullshit by butthurt people. Trump is not racist not does he attack women, his court cases are lies and exaggerated bullshit as well. He has strong opinions and a sense of what he wants done and is not afraid to go after that, this worries the powers that he threatens, and he is A THREAT to the status quo.

And nothing you have posted has any basis in reality.

Trump is both racist and misogynist, and no good will come of his Presidency because he's an incompetent clown. His re-election in no way legitimizes his lies or his inability to govern.

Trump doesn't "threaten the status quo". He went bankrupt 7 times for a reason - he cannot run anything, except into the ground. He's a lifelong criminal and the worst businessman in world history.

Trump is a threat to everything he touches.
 
Edited YouTube videos? Don’t believe everyone is a gullible as you are.

How about something from “Rawstory? There’s a good boy.
Too funny.

Every stupid, embarrassing article or video about your dear leader is fake or edited.

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Trump cannot commit to funding childcare, so he explained that he intends to make the economy better so families have more disposable income instead of the $11,400 hit they took during Biden's disastrous term

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds​


Childcare is not a Federal responsibility. Maybe congress will allow/budget a new tax break?

Republican analysis finds?????​


Too funny.
 
They've said that the criticisms of Trump were lies, a thousand times. Over and over. No matter who the criticisms came from, or what the criticisms were.

Then, when they're given the option to say the very same thing here, they get angry.

Somebody explain that.

:dunno:
That’s not true. Many if not most of us believe he has an abrasive personality. But what matters are his policies, which are good for America and Americans.

Then look at Harris. A flip-flopper who is so abusive to her staff that they all quit, AND whose policies are destructive to America.

The choice was clear to everyone but the TDS sufferers, such as yourself.
 
A spoiled rich kid, Trump has always been a lamentable person. Self aggrandizing, selfish, ego-centric, abusive and generally unlikeable. As a candidate for President, he was always undesirable. Yet, America survived his first term and he proved to be far from the worst President (the infamous "W"), that we have ever had. And the candidate selected to oppose him this last time was so totally unacceptable that obviously people preferred him (disclosure; I voted, but for neither). Honestly, I feared a bit more a Harris administration and was (almost) relieved the post did not fall upon her.
What I found interesting is that, in discussions here and elsewhere, my criticisms of the two were more poorly received by the "left" than the "right". I was even vilified by people I had thought friends merely because of not sharing their enthusiasm for Harris. No one from the "right" reacted in such fashion. I get the impression this is a bit indicative of that side of the political spectrum now.
I certainly wish the best for America and if that entails moderating things a bit while Trump gets settled in, that seems appropriate. I do not see the "left" doing that.
To the contrary, we have leftists issuing death threats to Trump’s cabinet picks (and their families).
 
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