Poll for Trump Supporters: Will you push back if he goes full fascist?

[dblack]

Mentally competent

Now you're talking. One of the parties should nominate someone who's mentally competent. So crazy it just might work!

 

[TruthNotBS]

I tackled that earlier by disposing of your wrong claim that Adam Smith was against Laissez Faire capitalism. HE was a huge fan of that concept.

You’re disingenuously ignoring every point I made and sweeping them under the rug. Adam Smith wasn’t the unwavering champion of laissez-faire capitalism you keep insisting he was. He clearly recognized the need for government regulation to protect fair competition and uphold the common good. Repeating the same blanket statement that he “was a huge fan of that concept” doesn’t prove your argument, it’s a misreading of both The Wealth of Nations and The Theory of Moral Sentiments to paint him as an early Milton Friedman.

In fact, Smith explicitly believed in protections against the oppression of the powerful. That’s not a strictly laissez-faire stance, it’s an acknowledgment that unregulated markets can lead to exploitation if left unchecked. You haven’t “disposed” of my point; you’re simply refusing to engage with it.

 

[dblack]

Yes, in the near science fiction scenario you imagine in which Donald Trump tried to turn the country fascist, then of course I would no longer support him.

Thank you. I do think most Trump supporters would say the same. The hard core partisans are another matter though, and it's weird that they're so evasive about it.

 

[tahuyaman]

mkay.

Tell me, do you get paid less for your posts after you've been exposed? How does that work?

What to you is a fascist? Someone who disagrees with you? Someone who puts America’s interests over the globalist’s interests

 

[tahuyaman]

Trump has already announced his massive first weeks plans and he sure is rushing Biden off.

In Trump’s first few weeks in office, Biden will have already been gone for few weeks.

 

[dblack]

What to you is a fascist?

How do you define it? Use that.

Someone who disagrees with you?

Nope.

Someone who puts America’s interests over the globalist’s interests?

Nope.

The dictionary definition works for me. Or use your own.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I'm not looking for a bunch of denials here. I know you think he won't. The question is, "What if he does?". Will you withdraw your support? Will you fight back? Do you have the courage to answer?

Both of my Grandfathers fought against actual fascist and if alive today it would be a toss up between laughing their asses off or slapping the shit out you idiot's. This "Everybody I disagree with is a NAZI" makes you people dumb as a bag of retarded hammers.

FYI I didn't vote for Trump.

 

[BrokeLoser]

How do you define it? Use that.

Nope.

Nope.

The dictionary definition works for me. Or use your own.

Are you good with temporary acts of fascism?
You know, to get shit done, to unwind the fascist acts of Democrats?

 

[dblack]

Both of my Grandfathers fought against actual fascist and if alive today it would be a toss up between laughing their asses off or slapping the shit out you idiot's. This "Everybody I disagree with is a NAZI" makes you people dumb as a bag of retarded hammers.

I didn't say any of that, so, whatever.

 

[dblack]

Are you good with temporary acts of fascism?
You know, to get shit done, to unwind the fascist acts of Democrats?

Absolutely not.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Absolutely not.

So how does a Party counter fascism without employing its own fascism? Do you see the vicious cycle that Democrats have us on?
If only one Party is permitted to employ fascism when in power how do things play out in the long run?

 

[dblack]

So how does a Party counter fascism without employing its own fascism?

That's like asking "How do we counter terrorism without employing our own terrorism?

Do you see the vicious cycle that Democrats have us on?

No. I see you looking for an excuse to be a fascist.

 

[AntonToo]

Sure, there was a national increase, but it stands out as odd, because usually, one election does not vastly outnumber the turnout of the preceding and subsequent elections.

That’s seems factually false - 2012 also had considerably lower turnout rate than 2008.

Besides, change in voting patterns in changing times is not in itself conspicuous. 2020 was a crazy year and it’s irrational to think that more voting seen in that year requires some grand conspiracy to explain.

Polling in 2020 predicted large turnout and that’s exactly what happened.

 

[Lesh]

That’s seems factually false - 2012 also had considerably lower turnout rate than 2008.

Besides, change in voting patterns in changing times is not in itself conspicuous. 2020 was a crazy year and it’s irrational to think that more voting seen in that year requires some grand conspiracy to explain.

Exactly. That’s an absurd claim.

Voter turnout is ever changing and capricious

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thank you. I do think most Trump supporters would say the same. The hard core partisans are another matter though, and it's weird that they're so evasive about it.

They may think you are attempting to insult them rather than ask a sincere question. Because the idea of Trump-as-fascist is so silly.

Trump shows no sign of being inclined to fascism. Not unless you count thoughts of using the next administration DOJ to go after the fascists in the current DOJ. They conducted more than eight years of lawfare against him and many of his supporters. That included ordinary Americans who support Trump, or as the current administration calls them, "garbage."

I would consider investigating and prosecuting people who misused the justice system to be more of a response to fascism. In the same way that the death penalty is not murder, but rather a response to murder.

 

[Nostra]

Exactly. That’s an absurd claim.

Voter turnout is ever changing and capricious

Yep, racist Dimwingers turned out in record numbers for the old racist white guy, and stayed home when they were told they had to vote for the black woman.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

I can't vote on this, but I WILL say..................

If Trumps brand of "fascism" cleans up this country and makes it safe and viable again for Americans to live like we did during his first term, then I'm all for it...........whatever its called.

But to be FAIR.........your deranged notions of the Oligarchy puppeted Democrats, Libs and lunatic leftoids destroying the country and murdering people JUST because they don't agree with you, make Fascism look like a breath of fresh air.

 

[BrokeLoser]

That's like asking "How do we counter terrorism without employing our own terrorism?

No. I see you looking for an excuse to be a fascist.

Using the DOJ to politically persecute the J6 patriots is fascism.
You’d say a president pardoning the J6 patriots is fascism….Right?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I'm not.

You are so deficient in common sense, yes.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Did Adam Smith support unregulated laizzez-faire capitalism?

Adam Smith, often considered the father of modern economics, is frequently associated with the concept of laissez-faire capitalism. However, his views were more nuanced than a simple endorsement of unregulated markets1.

In his seminal work, "The Wealth of Nations," Smith did advocate for free markets and minimal government intervention in economic affairs. He believed that individuals acting in their own self-interest would naturally contribute to the overall wealth and well-being of society, a concept famously illustrated by the "invisible hand."1

However, Smith also recognized the need for some government regulation to protect fair competition and prevent monopolies. He acknowledged that unregulated markets could lead to exploitation and inequality1. In his earlier work, "The Theory of Moral Sentiments," Smith emphasized the importance of sympathy and ethical considerations in economic activities.
So, while Smith supported many principles of laissez-faire economics, he did not advocate for a completely unregulated system. He believed in a balanced approach where the market is largely free but guided by ethical and regulatory frameworks to ensure fairness and justice.