Poll for Trump Supporters: Will you push back if he goes full fascist?

[TruthNotBS]

My pleasure is those who supported Kamala Harris now admit she was a fraud and they know she was. Telling us that the Dems gave up gives me a chuckle. We will see what democrats gave up shortly.

You're the fraud, defending the rich at the expense of the working class.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Holy cow, you are the victim of being brainwashed.

You're a bootlicking tool.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You don't know me at all.

When any talks as you talked to me, clearly you are who is brainwashed.

I know the stupid shit that you post, and that's enough.

 

[Robert W]

Adam Smith wrote in an era when industrialization was only just emerging, and his views on government intervention can’t be fairly compared to the contemporary strain of laissez-faire championed by Milton Friedman. Smith believed in letting markets work to allocate resources efficiently, but he also considered it the government’s role to provide public goods, prevent monopolies, and ensure basic fairness.

His moral philosophy, as laid out in The Theory of Moral Sentiments, places much more emphasis on empathy, social responsibility, and the importance of maintaining a moral framework than many of today’s self-described free market proponents would acknowledge. To claim that Smith fully endorsed a hands-off approach to every aspect of the economy ignores the nuance that runs through his work. He saw government regulation as necessary to keep competition fair, safeguard society from corporate abuses, and protect those who are most vulnerable. He championed freedom in commerce, but he did not call for an abdication of government responsibility to uphold justice and maintain social welfare.

Milton Friedman, by contrast, emerged in the mid-twentieth century, at a time when industrial capitalism had already produced massive corporations, more complex financial markets, and great concentrations of wealth. His approach to laissez-faire, which has often been described as neoliberal, had to contend with enormous private power, and in practice tended to concentrate more on cutting regulations than on balancing the scales between labor and capital. Friedman’s proposal for a negative income tax indicates he recognized that pure reliance on the market might fail to mitigate the worst effects of poverty. Indeed, he understood that society should provide a minimum standard of living for the poor, which is at odds with the simplistic idea that private enterprise, if simply left alone, would solve all social challenges.

But it’s also true that, in practice, many of the policies influenced by Friedman downplayed labor rights, weakened worker protections, and contributed to rising inequality. Without adequate regulation, capitalism spirals into cycles of exploitation, environmental degradation, and severe inequality. In the nineteenth century, laissez-faire economics left factory workers in horrendous conditions, toiling in unsafe environments for meager pay. Government intervention particularly in the form of labor laws, health and safety standards, and anti-monopoly regulations became necessary to avert social catastrophes and prevent revolutions.

Adam Smith's The Theory of Moral Sentiments argues that morality is a product of human nature and social interactions, and that people learn to be moral through experience. The book's main ideas include:

• Sympathy
  Smith believed that people are naturally empathetic and can understand the feelings of others by imagining what they would feel in the same situation.
  
  
• The impartial spectator
  Smith believed that people imagine how a disinterested observer would view their actions, and adjust their behavior accordingly.
  
  
• The invisible hand
  Smith believed that the unintended consequences of self-interested actions create social institutions that allow society to function.
  
  
• • Self-reflection
    Smith believed that people can make better moral choices through self-reflection and self-improvement.
    
  • Social norms
    Smith believed that people behave in a socially acceptable way to be viewed as morally responsible.
    

Smith's ideas in The Theory of Moral Sentiments have influenced the development of psychology, sociology, and economics.

 

[Robert W]

You're a bootlicking tool.

You mean when I spent decades as a loyal Democrat. I got rid of that.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You mean when I spent decades as a loyal Democrat. I got rid of that.

I don't give a shit what you were doing in ancient times, but what you're representing and promoting now. I determine whether you're a scumbag or not based upon your present, not your past.

 

[Robert W]

I don't give a shit what you were doing in ancient times, but what you're representing and promoting now. I determine whether you're a scumbag or not based upon your present, not your past.

I tried the be nice approach. I see you plan to post to fight like a son of a bitch.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I tried the be nice approach. I see you plan to post to fight like a son of a bitch.

You were already rude from the beginning hence take your medicine.

 

[Lesh]

I'll give you one thing. January 6th was composed of a lot of gullible people. Q was clearly a psyop used to trick the most gullible of Trump's supporters, so that the government and media could then pretend they were representative of the average Trump supporter. It's not the first time a government has done something like that to demonize opposition, and it won't be the last.

Dude … that post was pure Q shit

Psyop your ass

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

42 years bub. 42 years I was in your club. I was as wild ass wrong then as you are now.
Try reading the great book A Time for Truth by William E. Simon.

I was as brainwashed as a Democrat as you are right now. Only smart people like Tulsi Gabbard broke free as did the Greatest President of all times, Ronald Reagan. I voted for him and he was my first as a changed from Democrat to Republican. Thank god we had him as president.

You are dementiac, Bob Bub.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Adam Smith's The Theory of Moral Sentiments argues that morality is a product of human nature and social interactions, and that people learn to be moral through experience. The book's main ideas include:

• Sympathy
  Smith believed that people are naturally empathetic and can understand the feelings of others by imagining what they would feel in the same situation.
  
  
• The impartial spectator
  Smith believed that people imagine how a disinterested observer would view their actions, and adjust their behavior accordingly.
  
  
• The invisible hand
  Smith believed that the unintended consequences of self-interested actions create social institutions that allow society to function.
  
  
• • Self-reflection
    Smith believed that people can make better moral choices through self-reflection and self-improvement.
  • Social norms
    Smith believed that people behave in a socially acceptable way to be viewed as morally responsible.

Smith's ideas in The Theory of Moral Sentiments have influenced the development of psychology, sociology, and economics.

Nothing in your restatement of The Theory of Moral Sentiments addresses my central point that Adam Smith did not advocate unregulated, Friedman-style laissez-faire capitalism. Simply listing Smith’s ideas about sympathy, the impartial spectator, and social norms does nothing to show that he opposed government intervention in cases of market abuse or social harm. In fact, he wrote extensively on the importance of justice, fair play, and institutional safeguards, ideas fully consistent with the argument that markets cannot be left to operate without oversight.

Moreover, none of the passages you provided speaks to the contemporary problem of advanced automation and AI displacing workers, nor do they address how even many staunch free-marketeers now favor government support, like a universal basic income, to maintain consumer demand. In other words, nothing in your reference to The Theory of Moral Sentiments refutes what I said previously or supports an unregulated capitalist model over a more regulated or socialist-oriented approach.

 

[Lesh]

You are dementiac, Bob Bub.

No one cares. Robert is an old asshole now… I suspect he was a younger one then

 

[Robert W]

You are dementiac, Bob Bub.

That is like Al Capone rose from the dead and called me the Mafia.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That is like Al Capone rose from the dead and called me the Mafia.

^^^ proving you are an 86 year old deranged person

 

[Robert W]

Nothing in your restatement of The Theory of Moral Sentiments addresses my central point that Adam Smith did not advocate unregulated, Friedman-style laissez-faire capitalism

I tackled that earlier by disposing of your wrong claim that Adam Smith was against Laissez Faire capitalism. HE was a huge fan of that concept.

 

[Robert W]

^^^ proving you are an 86 year old deranged person

That comes from the mentally ill people. Watch it writhe in pain.

 

[fncceo]

an 86 year old deranged person

Nope, only 82

 

[Billiejeens]

You are so sadly mistaken about what common sense is.

I'm not.

 

[Lesh]

I'm not.

Mentally competent

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm not looking for a bunch of denials here. I know you think he won't. The question is, "What if he does?". Will you withdraw your support? Will you fight back? Do you have the courage to answer?

Yes, in the near science fiction scenario you imagine in which Donald Trump tried to turn the country fascist, then of course I would no longer support him.