Politico poll shows many western nations turning to China, more, as a result of Trump's presidency

[Mac-7]

Why do you want to change history ? Not very likely you will succeed. Imperialism had it's day , it's long gone. Ended with the British empire at the end of WWII. It became unprofitable and was deemed no longer sustainable. Russia is finding that out the hard way with the Ukraine. Maybe at we follow suit.I hope not.

Change history?

We are talking about preventing china from dominating the world

Thats the present and future, not history

And I’m comparing the china model to Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Imperial Japan

Very unwholesome experiences

The British Empire had its flaws, but was heaven on earth compared to the chicoms

 

[Stann]

Change history?

We are talking about preventing china from dominating the world

Thats the present and future, not history

And I’m comparing the china model to Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Imperial Japan

Very unwholesome experiences

The British Empire had its flaws, but was heaven on earth compared to the chicoms

In your limited view. I try to see the big picture. And how do you make such a comparison , have you lived under British rule or Chinese domination. I doubt either is true.

 

[Mac-7]

In your limited view. I try to see the big picture. And how do you make such a comparison , have you lived under British rule or Chinese domination. I doubt either is true.

I try to be informed

And I notice that the Brits eventually repented from colonization whereas china is just getting started

unfortunately the Brits are losing their commitment to individual human rights that caused them to dissolve their colonial empire at the same time that communist china is rising to take their place

 

[Stann]

I try to be informed

And I notice that the Brits eventually repented from colonization whereas china is just getting started

unfortunately the Brits are losing their commitment to individual human rights that caused them to dissolve their colonial empire at the same time that communist china is rising to take their place

So who has China taken over ? The lease the British had on Hong Kong simply ran out. Although they have threatened to bring Taiwan back into the fold , they still haven't done so. Did I miss anything else ?

 

[Mac-7]

So who has China taken over ? The lease the British had on Hong Kong simply ran out. Although they have threatened to bring Taiwan back into the fold , they still haven't done so. Did I miss anything else ?

Most recently Tibet

But historically all of china is conquored territory

However china does not want to be the modern genghis khan

They much prefer the teachings of Sun Tzu who advocated warfare by deviousness with raw military power only as a last resort

Therefore the chicoms are more interested in dominating foreign markets through mercantilism than military action

And they are very good at it

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Politico poll shows many western nations turning to China, more, as a result of Trump's presidency.
This is, probably, what Trump wants.
He does not want western countries depending on the USA. He does not like the trade deals he has with western countries. Western countries will move trade to China.

He is replacing the dying nations of europe with the wealthy middle eastern nations who have both oil and money.

 

[Stann]

Most recently Tibet

But historically all of china is conquored territory

However china does not want to be the modern genghis khan

They much prefer the teachings of Sun Tzu who advocated warfare by deviousness with raw military power only as a last resort

Therefore the chicoms are more interested in dominating foreign markets through mercantilism than military action

And they are very good at it

Forgot about Tibet.That was a long time ago. 1950. Almost before I was born this time around. Everyone has their day in the sun. China has had many and will have more. Just as we may still have more.

 

[Correll]

Continue watching things in.the US decline with trump and you will finally realize what most people already know. trump is not the answer to anything good.

Interesting....

Things in the US have been declining well before Trump.

Such as The American Dream.


MAGA is our reaching to bring that BACK.


But, yes, let's see what happens with actual RESULTS. I agree completely. That is what Trump and MAGA should be judged on, not this media fueled hissy fit that you leftards have ginned up.

 

[ElmerMudd]

China is doomed. Their finances make ours look good. Their demographics make ours look good. Their politics make ours look good.

He is replacing the dying nations of europe with the wealthy middle eastern nations who have both oil and money.

To fit in will Trump start pushing a Muslim theocracy, as opposed to a Christian theocracy, to fit in with our new friends.

Who treats friends the way you say the US should be treating our allies. I am glad I am not your friend.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Dude, even you ca do this math

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United States	19,825,338
European Union	9,592,485
China	7,489,260

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Tell us what your numbers mean and where you got them.

 

[ElmerMudd]

China was buying most of the goods these countries sell to us? Hilarious!
Tell me more. Just for fun, post dollar amounts.

Trump wants the US to buy more made in America products and less exports.

As we buy less exports what are the countries that lose US business to do.
They will sell somewhere else. And they will become closer to those they sell to.

 

[ElmerMudd]

China must be wallowing in a glut of Schadenfreude.

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China's role in the global clean energy technology market is significant, with its exports reaching a record $20 billion in August 2025... with China now leading the world in clean technology exports.​

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China’s relationship with Iran is primarily transactional and energy-focused, with Iran supplying a critical share of discounted crude. While recent Middle East conflicts pose immediate risks to supply and prices, China’s strategic reserves, diversified sourcing, and long-term planning mitigate the impact, ensuring that energy security remains a central pillar of its foreign and economic policy.​

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New word for me. I had to look it up. I plan to use it in the future. Thanks

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump wants the US to buy more made in America products and less exports.

As we buy less exports what are the countries that lose US business to do.
They will sell somewhere else. And they will become closer to those they sell to.

Right. And leftards think exporters can replace the US market with the Chinese market.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

To fit in will Trump start pushing a Muslim theocracy, as opposed to a Christian theocracy, to fit in with our new friends.

if that were the case every white liberal on the forum would be backing him

Who treats friends the way you say the US should be treating our allies.

a question better suited for the europeans

I am glad I am not your friend.

you sound like a european

 

[ElmerMudd]

if that were the case every white liberal on the forum would be backing him

a question better suited for the europeans

you sound like a european

I am not MAGA but I am a proud American.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I am not MAGA

odd denial considering nobody mistaked you for one

but I am a proud American.

do you live on stolen land? owe minorities money?...walk proudly elmo

 

[Correll]

To fit in will Trump start pushing a Muslim theocracy, as opposed to a Christian theocracy, to fit in with our new friends.

That makes no sense. Try to be less retarded.

Who treats friends the way you say the US should be treating our allies. I am glad I am not your friend.

"Friends" who whine like little girls, just becasue the US wants to NOT be the world's ***** on trade, immigration and defense,


are not real friends.

 

[Rawley]

Tell us what your numbers mean and where you got them.

Consumer consumption. From the World Bank

List of largest consumer markets - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Stann]

Interesting....

Things in the US have been declining well before Trump.

Such as The American Dream.


MAGA is our reaching to bring that BACK.


But, yes, let's see what happens with actual RESULTS. I agree completely. That is what Trump and MAGA should be judged on, not this media fueled hissy fit that you leftards have ginned up.

So far he's dragged the whole country down. The American dream is further out of reach than ever and they still haven't come up with a decent health care plan that works .So I agree judge them on what they've done , not what they say they're doing. Words are cheap and worthless coming from trump

 

[Independent thinker]

Politico poll shows many western nations turning to China, more, as a result of Trump's presidency.
This is, probably, what Trump wants.
He does not want western countries depending on the USA. He does not like the trade deals he has with western countries. Western countries will move trade to China.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/15/trump-china-europe-closer-ties-00823457

Yeah, it shows how stupid they are. They know China is a future threat.