Police Officer Fired For Donating $25 To Kyle Rittenhouse

[StormAl]

Of course it was. Anything you do outside of the office reflects on the office.

Only if it's in the contract.

Nope.

 

[StormAl]

So what? A lieutenant is supposed to be a position of leadership and authority. And he goes and donates to the defense of a young man who not only took the law into his own hands, he went looking to kill someone.
Seems like an appropriate punishment. He should never be allowed to carry a badge and gun again.

I'll say it one more time. You have the right to say or do anything you want on your own time. However, that does not mean your employer can't fire
you if it makes them look bad.

And yet you support ass clown sports players that kneel during the National Anthem and piss on our flag. They make our nation look bad.

You leftists just can't help but fall flat on your faces without putting on display your epic hypocrisy.

Who pissed on the flag? You extreme righties make the nation look bad.

 

[StormAl]

Not at all, guys. The courts have ruled in favor of business on this kind of thing.

The police force is not a private business, though, so government restrictions apply.

Yes, against the guy who used workplace systems, etc.

 

[StormAl]

Yea I doubt he would have been fired if he would just make a private donation.

The department needs the fuck sued out of them.

Let's make it happen.

He acted as a representative of the police and was fired for his poor performance. There is no case.

He stated his opinion as a private citizen. The Reich controlled department violated his constitutional rights. I don't know if Lieutenants in that department are Union Members, but if they are, that is yet another avenue.

The decent people in America must push the Reich back. Lawfare is a critical weapon in fighting the Reich.

No, he did not.

 

[StormAl]

It’s acceptable because the fascists are in total control of the country.

Yep, the city manager in Brooklyn Center was fired for merely mentioning due process and one of the city council members admitted she did so out of fear.

And then this from the shit-head mayor of Brooklyn Center.

Brooklyn Center Mayor Mike Elliott Says It's 'Not Safe To Drive in Minnesota' While Black

If it is so bad in America for blacks then fucking emigrate.

Floyd and Wright both had criminal records...didn't they ?

. . . and, still, should not have been executed.

Don't recall saying they should have been.

. . . yet many here think they should have been shot.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Communism on full display in Norfolk, Va. What's next?

What does firing a police officer have to do with the government owning and controlling the means of economic production?

The suppression of civil liberties such as Freedom of Speech are part of Marxist Totalitarianism.

It's part of many despotic types of governments. Communism is an economic construct. Conservatives constantly throw accusations of "Commie!" and "Socialist!" and they sound like fucking idiots.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So what? A lieutenant is supposed to be a position of leadership and authority. And he goes and donates to the defense of a young man who not only took the law into his own hands, he went looking to kill someone.
Seems like an appropriate punishment. He should never be allowed to carry a badge and gun again.

I'll say it one more time. You have the right to say or do anything you want on your own time. However, that does not mean your employer can't fire
you if it makes them look bad.

And yet you support ass clown sports players that kneel during the National Anthem and piss on our flag. They make our nation look bad.

You leftists just can't help but fall flat on your faces without putting on display your epic hypocrisy.

No they don't. I've talked to a lot of veterans who tell me they are not at all offended by black men kneeling for the national anthem. It's what they fought and sacrificed their lives for.
You, like the rest of the right wing, have tried to equate the fight for social justice...and the fact that there are two justice systems in this country with disrespect for the flag and veterans.
You're just gobbling up the red meat and pablum your right wing media outlets and politicians are throwing you....further proof you are largely incapable of thinking for yourselves.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

There has to be more to the story. I can't believe he would not be able to sue and clean up after this.

Norfolk Police Department fires officer who was outed for donating $25 to defense fund for Kyle Rittenhouse

twitchy.com

It seems the Guardian was the one who traced the e-mails back to the donators.

This is acceptable....why ?

From: Jim H____ <jim_h____@>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:30 AM
To: city.manager [at] norfolk.gov; police [at] norfolk.gov ; larry.boone [at] norfolk.gov
Subject:Firing of Lt. Kelly over Rittenhouse opinion

It's Lt. Kelly's personal opinion that Rittenhouse did nothing wrong. Lots of people share that opinion, including myself.

Adjudication is likely to show that Lt. Kelly is correct. When it does, it will show that his statements where consistent with the facts, and y'all will have egg on your face and be responsible for an unjust termination.

Not sure how stating an opinion that is arguably true erodes public trust. What really erodes public trust are your actions.

Sincerely,
Jim H____
_______, VA

 

[bodecea]

It’s acceptable because the fascists are in total control of the country.

Yep, the city manager in Brooklyn Center was fired for merely mentioning due process and one of the city council members admitted she did so out of fear.

And then this from the shit-head mayor of Brooklyn Center.

Brooklyn Center Mayor Mike Elliott Says It's 'Not Safe To Drive in Minnesota' While Black

If it is so bad in America for blacks then fucking emigrate.

Floyd and Wright both had criminal records...didn't they ?

Chauvin has a criminal record too.

 

[BlindBoo]

Holding a political opinion is job related? How communistic.

Opposition to the Reich will not be tolerated.

Is that in his employee handbook too?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So what? A lieutenant is supposed to be a position of leadership and authority. And he goes and donates to the defense of a young man who not only took the law into his own hands, he went looking to kill someone.
Seems like an appropriate punishment. He should never be allowed to carry a badge and gun again.

I'll say it one more time. You have the right to say or do anything you want on your own time. However, that does not mean your employer can't fire
you if it makes them look bad.

And yet you support ass clown sports players that kneel during the National Anthem and piss on our flag. They make our nation look bad.

You leftists just can't help but fall flat on your faces without putting on display your epic hypocrisy.

As opposed to those who torn down the American flag at the Capitol and ran up a "trump" flag....and using other American flags on poles to attack and injure police officers.....................?

Don't forget the asshat who traipsed through the rotunda carrying the Confederate (traitor) flag.
Wonder if he's gotten arrested yet?

 

[MarcATL]

Sounds like a lawsuit

Yeah, well...good luck w/that.

 

[Mustang]

There has to be more to the story. I can't believe he would not be able to sue and clean up after this.

Norfolk Police Department fires officer who was outed for donating $25 to defense fund for Kyle Rittenhouse

twitchy.com

It seems the Guardian was the one who traced the e-mails back to the donators.

This is acceptable....why ?

The lieutenant did something both foolish and knowingly against what was clearly stated city and department policy. By using his city email to send his message, it gives the appearance of having the 'official' blessing of the Norfolk, VA police department, which clearly did not approve it.

I also have a work email, and everyone at work knows that the email is for official business ONLY. In addition, everyone at work knows that your outgoing and incoming emails are not private and can be viewed by supervisors and security. The fact that the email address is for police and government employees makes the transgression worse than it would otherwise be for business employees.

 

[MarcATL]

I don't think it was the donation that got him fired but his comment.

"God bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. You’ve done nothing wrong. Every rank and file police officer supports you," the message continued. "Don’t be discouraged by actions of the political class of law enforcement leadership."

Both/and.

His strong personal statement stating that the entire department is w/the murderer Kyle gained more weight when combined w/the work email address he used. It's as if the police department itself endorses that kind of bigotry.

The police department had no choice but to fire him quickly and swiftly as to not implicate themselves in the bigotry.

 

[there4eyeM]

Felons killed while resisting arrest are somewhat different from randomly shooting people because one does not like something about them.

 

[FA_Q2]

Did no one actually read the article? The officer used an official email, not a private one. I can't say what the reaction might have been had this been done entirely outside of his job, but he used a city email to make the donation.

The punishment may be an overreaction, but the use of a city email to make the donation certainly does make this work-related.

Monumental fucking bullshit.

There is never n excuse to fire someone because they make a donation. It is asinine in the extreme to defend that kind of action, period.

The persecution of anyone that may hold a differing opinion is pure unadulterated evil.

 

[FA_Q2]

I cannot believe that this is the reason he was fired, just to far beyond the pale. There has to be more to the story.

 

[FA_Q2]

There has to be more to the story. I can't believe he would not be able to sue and clean up after this.

Norfolk Police Department fires officer who was outed for donating $25 to defense fund for Kyle Rittenhouse

twitchy.com

It seems the Guardian was the one who traced the e-mails back to the donators.

This is acceptable....why ?

The lieutenant did something both foolish and knowingly against what was clearly stated city and department policy. By using his city email to send his message, it gives the appearance of having the 'official' blessing of the Norfolk, VA police department, which clearly did not approve it.

I also have a work email, and everyone at work knows that the email is for official business ONLY. In addition, everyone at work knows that your outgoing and incoming emails are not private and can be viewed by supervisors and security. The fact that the email address is for police and government employees makes the transgression worse than it would otherwise be for business employees.

Unless you are Hillary of course. Then those emails are private....

 

[there4eyeM]

If it were a contribution to an anti-Constitutional cause, it would be justified. If it is merely a contribution to legal defense for an accused citizen, it seems excessive and actionable.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

There has to be more to the story. I can't believe he would not be able to sue and clean up after this.

Norfolk Police Department fires officer who was outed for donating $25 to defense fund for Kyle Rittenhouse

twitchy.com

It seems the Guardian was the one who traced the e-mails back to the donators.

This is acceptable....why ?

The lieutenant did something both foolish and knowingly against what was clearly stated city and department policy. By using his city email to send his message, it gives the appearance of having the 'official' blessing of the Norfolk, VA police department, which clearly did not approve it.

I also have a work email, and everyone at work knows that the email is for official business ONLY. In addition, everyone at work knows that your outgoing and incoming emails are not private and can be viewed by supervisors and security. The fact that the email address is for police and government employees makes the transgression worse than it would otherwise be for business employees.

>The lieutenant did something both foolish and knowingly against what was clearly stated city and department policy. By using his city email to send his message, it gives the appearance of having the 'official' blessing of the Norfolk, VA police department, which clearly did not approve it.

No.

The email address was not supposed to be publicly viewable; it was hacked. There was no appearance to the public that the opinion was blessed by the Norfolk Police Dept.

It was an anonymous donation...

Virginia cop is fired for giving $25 to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal fund

Norfolk Police Lt. William K. Kelly lost his job after a hack revealed the names of those who gave money to help with the 18-year-old's legal costs. Rittenhouse is accused of killing two protesters.

www.dailymail.co.uk

You actually think it's just to fire a cop because he used his work email to register an account at the donation site? Goodness grief.

He was fired for "eroding public trust." That's complete BS. It's a wrongful termination.