Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"

[Aldo Raine]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

 

[Aldo Raine]

a possible adrenaline rush and a short burst of aerobic activity of above normal

hahahaahahahahahaha, then what does that do if not make them stronger? fatigue never sets in. most people break down and stop struggling, not a person on drugs. you just admitted it. Stronger.

HAHHAHAHA, so those non PED's made him grow more dense and stronger contractile tissue? Really?
MAGA

 

[jc456]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

why would we do that? why can't criminals just follow direction? Pass the law, and make it easier. Me, I'd prefer they allow the use of chloroform and take away the senseless struggles with other human's lives.

 

[jc456]

a possible adrenaline rush and a short burst of aerobic activity of above normal

hahahaahahahahahaha, then what does that do if not make them stronger? fatigue never sets in. most people break down and stop struggling, not a person on drugs. you just admitted it. Stronger.

HAHHAHAHA, so those non PED's made him grow more dense and stronger contractile tissue? Really?
MAGA

did you watch the cops cameras video? if so, did you watch Floyd's legs? Took three full size humans to stop him.

 

[Aldo Raine]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

why would we do that? why can't criminals just follow direction? Pass the law, and make it easier. Me, I'd prefer they allow the use of chloroform and take away the senseless struggles with other human's lives.

You prefer they just kill them, admit it.

 

[Aldo Raine]

a possible adrenaline rush and a short burst of aerobic activity of above normal

hahahaahahahahahaha, then what does that do if not make them stronger? fatigue never sets in. most people break down and stop struggling, not a person on drugs. you just admitted it. Stronger.

HAHHAHAHA, so those non PED's made him grow more dense and stronger contractile tissue? Really?
MAGA

did you watch the cops cameras video? if so, did you watch Floyd's legs? Took three full size humans to stop him.

Yup they felt so threaten idiot boy had his hands in his pockets. That is what all people who fell threatened do.
MAGA

 

[jc456]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

why would we do that? why can't criminals just follow direction? Pass the law, and make it easier. Me, I'd prefer they allow the use of chloroform and take away the senseless struggles with other human's lives.

You prefer they just kill them, admit it.

why? it isn't what I'd do. chloroform and bring the assholes in quietly.

 

[laferia52]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

floyd was a career criminal. he died due to the drugs he had ingested and his poor health. you hear people now saying that chauvin was grinding his knee on floyed's neck. that is a lie. chauvin was not pressing hard with his knee on floyed's neck. floyed was a whiner.always whining to get away from been arrested. I don't even thing that chauvin is guilty of manslaugher. chauvin is guilty only of doing his job, arresting a criminal.

 

[jc456]

Yup they felt so threaten idiot boy had his hands in his pockets. That is what all people who fell threatened do.

yup, that's what you saw. you have no clue. you think a 5 foot 8 inch cop loves to deal with unresponsive criminals that weigh 220 pounds and trying to kick you. Cause you're so anti cop, the fk with the other humans that have to deal with the confrontational floyd.

 

[jc456]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

floyd was a career criminal. he died due to the drugs he had ingested and his poor health. you hear people now saying that chauvin was grinding his knee on floyed's neck. that is a lie. chauvin was not pressing hard with his knee on floyed's neck. floyed was a whiner.always whining to get away from been arrested. I don't even thing that chauvin is guilty of manslaugher. chauvin is guilty only of doing his job, arresting a criminal.

again, all Floyd had to do was give the two clerks the pack of cigarettes he stole.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Yup they felt so threaten idiot boy had his hands in his pockets. That is what all people who fell threatened do.

yup, that's what you saw. you have no clue. you think a 5 foot 8 inch cop loves to deal with unresponsive criminals that weigh 220 pounds and trying to kick you. Cause you're so anti cop, the fk with the other humans that have to deal with the confrontational floyd.

Hands in pockets, yup he seemed scared.
MAGA

 

[jc456]

Yup they felt so threaten idiot boy had his hands in his pockets. That is what all people who fell threatened do.

yup, that's what you saw. you have no clue. you think a 5 foot 8 inch cop loves to deal with unresponsive criminals that weigh 220 pounds and trying to kick you. Cause you're so anti cop, the fk with the other humans that have to deal with the confrontational floyd.

Hands in pockets, yup he seemed scared.
MAGA

cause he had his knee on his back and two other officers holding his bottom half. Didn't need his hands. doesn't change the scenario that you still haven't addressed. What would you have done differently to get Floyd in the squad car? Why can't you answer little fella?

 

[Aldo Raine]

Yup they felt so threaten idiot boy had his hands in his pockets. That is what all people who fell threatened do.

yup, that's what you saw. you have no clue. you think a 5 foot 8 inch cop loves to deal with unresponsive criminals that weigh 220 pounds and trying to kick you. Cause you're so anti cop, the fk with the other humans that have to deal with the confrontational floyd.

Hands in pockets, yup he seemed scared.
MAGA

cause he had his knee on his back and two other officers holding his bottom half. Didn't need his hands. doesn't change the scenario that you still haven't addressed. What would you have done differently to get Floyd in the squad car? Why can't you answer little fella?

Do not know what the officers have at their disposal. Mace, taser or any other devices. But 3 people kneeling on him for a few minutes while he is unresponsive is past excessive lil sister.
MAGA

 

[initforme]

What is the point of kneeling on a dead persons neck? If there's no pulse he is gone. Why keep kneeliing when you know he's probably dead already?

 

[Oldestyle]

If he had a lethal amount of drugs that could cause overdosing he would not have been standing and able to struggle like they said he did.

you know how 220 pound people behave after ingesting drugs? just checking, what is your experience? I have a few in my life, and I can tell you people on drugs are much much stronger than they are when they are straight. So please, enlighten me in your experience.

Aldo Raine what do you disagree with?

On drugs does not "make them stronger" a possible adrenaline rush and a short burst of aerobic activity of above normal. Not stronger in the sense they are suddenly able to increase a max strength move.

More durable for a short amount of time, yes. Slightly increased aerobic capacity, probably.

With all due respect, Aldo...Floyd was on Meth. Talk to anyone who's tried to subdue someone on Meth and they'll tell you it's scary how strong they can be and how they don't seem to feel pain.

 

[MisterBeale]

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.

he followed protocols. what would you have done differently?

Administer Narcan or Naloxone and contact paramedics.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

why would we do that? why can't criminals just follow direction? Pass the law, and make it easier. Me, I'd prefer they allow the use of chloroform and take away the senseless struggles with other human's lives.

You prefer they just kill them, admit it.

Of course not but that's not what happened. Floyd took a fatal cocktail of drugs. It killed him. That's what happens sometimes when you take drugs.

 

[DrLove]

There is no video proof of "resistance". Cut it out with the racist trope shit eh?

 

[Turtlesoup]

I have said this all along.
If anyone watches the ENTIRE - UNEDITED body cam videos that are available on YouTube, and you are objective, you will change your mind.

Floyd had multiple opportunities to tell officers he took a lethal dose. He knew he did. If you listen to what he is saying - he repeatedly states "I don't want to die, don't leave me alone, promise me you will stay with me - I am a good person, I don't want to die" - YET when asked did he take something - FLOYD SAYS NO.
You can also see at the beginning he was reasonably sober. Within a few minutes the drugs start to take effect, and you can see a large difference in his speech, and he becomes paranoid about dying or being alone.
Chauvin is a bully. There was no reason to continue to pin him down well after he stopped fighting. So I think negligent homicide is the charge because Floyd contributed MORE to his death than Chauvin.
PERIOD

It doesn't matter.

Manslaughter still applies.

If you punch a person high on drugs and they fall hit their head and die of a head injury it's still manslaughter.

He would of never died except for the person punching him.

You don't know that. Just like you don't know if Floyd would have died if his neck wasn't compressed by a knee

I imagine not he would not be dead due to his tolerance level. He wasn't dead before the incident was he.

He'd just taken the drugs so they wouldnt find them,in other words eating the evidence.
Drugs dont act immediately,they take time.

And it cannot be proven that Floyd would have died if he wasn't restrained in the manner he was.

That type of supposition isn't allowed in a courtroom.

Actually floyd had beyond the lethal amount of illegals drugs in his system to have died in any position easily...he over dosed on drugs.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.

he followed protocols. what would you have done differently?

Administer Narcan or Naloxone and contact paramedics.

Yeah except Floyd told the officers he had taken nothing. Twice.
You have to watch the unedited full body cam videos to hear that.
None of the edited videos shows this.