Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"

[toobfreak]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

I thought it was determined like LAST SUMMER that Chauvin is innocent gross misconduct or murder, it was all brought on by that waste of human skin George Floyd.

 

[Turtlesoup]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not in floyds case--he died within 9 minutes of being put on the ground. His only chance was at best very very slim---when the cop asked if he was on something, the cop would have called an ambulance, but the ambulance likely wouldn't haven't gotten there in time either.

But yes------why save violent criminals who are overdosing even this hadn't been the case. Floyd was a threat to everyone----he should have never been allowed out of prison and many violent criminals will always be threats---I'm logical--and feel they should be killed off.

 

[DrLove]

Let's just lay it out there for the world to see mmmk?
There was NO resistance from Floyd who suffered an extrajudicial murder.
But that's okay cuz you know: Big Sceery Black Guy!
Just shut the hell up - This is NOT going well for the defense.

Extrajudicial:
: done in contravention of due process of law an extrajudicial execution

 

[iamwhatiseem]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not in floyds case--he died within 9 minutes of being put on the ground. His only chance was at best very very slim---when the cop asked if he was on something, the cop would have called an ambulance, but the ambulance likely wouldn't haven't gotten there in time either.

But yes------why save violent criminals who are overdosing even this hadn't been the case. Floyd was a threat to everyone----he should have never been allowed out of prison and many violent criminals will always be threats---I'm logical--and feel they should be killed off.

Many cops carry Narcan and other medicines to stop an overdose in their vehicles. Don't know if they do in Minneapolis.

 

[2aguy]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not in floyds case--he died within 9 minutes of being put on the ground. His only chance was at best very very slim---when the cop asked if he was on something, the cop would have called an ambulance, but the ambulance likely wouldn't haven't gotten there in time either.

But yes------why save violent criminals who are overdosing even this hadn't been the case. Floyd was a threat to everyone----he should have never been allowed out of prison and many violent criminals will always be threats---I'm logical--and feel they should be killed off.

Many cops carry Narcan and other medicines to stop an overdose in their vehicles. Don't know if they do in Minneapolis.

Wouldn't have saved him.....

 

[kaz]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Good argument, but you don't address the most damning piece of evidence. The cop telling the guy on Floyd's neck that Floyd doesn't have a pulse and his continuing to sit on Floyd's neck for over two more minutes. Floyd couldn't fake that

 

[2aguy]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Good argument, but you don't address the most damning piece of evidence. The cop telling the guy on Floyd's neck that Floyd doesn't have a pulse and his continuing to sit on Floyd's neck for over two more minutes. Floyd couldn't fake that

The ambulance was already on the way. The knee on the neck did not cause his death per the autopsy.... the knee on the neck no matter how long it was on the neck didn't cause lack of oxygen or compression.

 

[kaz]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Good argument, but you don't address the most damning piece of evidence. The cop telling the guy on Floyd's neck that Floyd doesn't have a pulse and his continuing to sit on Floyd's neck for over two more minutes. Floyd couldn't fake that

The ambulance was already on the way. The knee on the neck did not cause his death per the autopsy.... the knee on the neck no matter how long it was on the neck didn't cause lack of oxygen or compression.

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

That isn't the way reports are written.

The ME report found no evidence of trauma to the larynx, no damage to the hyoid, or other air passages.

 

[2aguy]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Good argument, but you don't address the most damning piece of evidence. The cop telling the guy on Floyd's neck that Floyd doesn't have a pulse and his continuing to sit on Floyd's neck for over two more minutes. Floyd couldn't fake that

The ambulance was already on the way. The knee on the neck did not cause his death per the autopsy.... the knee on the neck no matter how long it was on the neck didn't cause lack of oxygen or compression.

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

What intent......the cops were facing an increasingly aggressive mob.....and the autopsy report?

The corner doesn't want antifa and blm democrat brown shirts showing up at his home....

the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.

And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying, "deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.

Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice

 

[Rambunctious]

27 million to a family that is probably glad George is out of their lives....

 

[2aguy]

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

That isn't the way reports are written.

The ME report found no evidence of trauma to the larynx, no damage to the hyoid, or other air passages.

Here.....
the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.

And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying, "deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.
Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice

What you have here is autopsy conclusion through fear of the mob....

 

[2aguy]

Can you imagine being a MPD officer? The city is making sure the cops stay in their cars and simply respond to fill out reports....each day of this trial = the days of them confronting actual criminals who are committing crimes is over.....

 

[kaz]

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

That isn't the way reports are written.

The ME report found no evidence of trauma to the larynx, no damage to the hyoid, or other air passages.

Then how does that prove the claim that the knee had nothing to do with the death?

 

[2aguy]

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

That isn't the way reports are written.

The ME report found no evidence of trauma to the larynx, no damage to the hyoid, or other air passages.

Then how does that prove the claim that the knee had nothing to do with the death?

No physical damage to the neck or upper body.......the claims being made would have shown bruising around the neck...at least......

Versus....

"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying, "deaths have been certified with levels of 3.

 

[kaz]

What intent.....

This just so destroys your credibility on this. I look at a video that looks terrible for the cop, and you're not like wow, I see why you say that kaz, but things aren't always as bad as they look. You're like, I see nothing, kaz, no idea what you're even referring to. Yeah, sure.

I also asked you what threat a guy with no pulse was to stay mounted on his neck and you didn't answer

 

[kaz]

I've never seen any medical exam report that concluded the knee on his throat had nothing to do with his death.

What threat was he to anyone at that point if he had no pulse? It just so clearly looks like intent at that point, which is at least murder 2

That isn't the way reports are written.

The ME report found no evidence of trauma to the larynx, no damage to the hyoid, or other air passages.

Then how does that prove the claim that the knee had nothing to do with the death?

No physical damage to the neck or upper body.......the claims being made would have shown bruising around the neck...at least......

Versus....

"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying, "deaths have been certified with levels of 3.

Not proving the cop killed him with his knee on his neck is not equal to proving the knee had nothing to do with the suffocation as you claimed

 

[Aldo Raine]

If he had a lethal amount of drugs that could cause overdosing he would not have been standing and able to struggle like they said he did.

you know how 220 pound people behave after ingesting drugs? just checking, what is your experience? I have a few in my life, and I can tell you people on drugs are much much stronger than they are when they are straight. So please, enlighten me in your experience.

Aldo Raine what do you disagree with?

On drugs does not "make them stronger" a possible adrenaline rush and a short burst of aerobic activity of above normal. Not stronger in the sense they are suddenly able to increase a max strength move.

More durable for a short amount of time, yes. Slightly increased aerobic capacity, probably.

With all due respect, Aldo...Floyd was on Meth. Talk to anyone who's tried to subdue someone on Meth and they'll tell you it's scary how strong they can be and how they don't seem to feel pain.

He was also on fake(more powerful) heroine which does the opposite.
MAGA

 

[Aldo Raine]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

Work around violent manipulative criminals and you too will become callous.

Chauvin wasn't negligent---Floyd would have died with or without Chauvin there. He od on drugs. Stop trying to punish the cop for doing nothing that caused Floyds death.

So you are saying that if someone is dying of an OD there is nothing emergency services can do to help them, is that it?

Not only that but what the heck just let the police execute them right there. Save everyone the trouble!!!
MAGA

so which part of the cops videos did Floyd help himself? Why didn't Floyd just give the cigarettes to the two clerks to avoid the confrontation?

Didn't I just say execute him? JFC I am agreeing with you and you argue!

MAGA

why would we do that? why can't criminals just follow direction? Pass the law, and make it easier. Me, I'd prefer they allow the use of chloroform and take away the senseless struggles with other human's lives.

You prefer they just kill them, admit it.

Of course not but that's not what happened. Floyd took a fatal cocktail of drugs. It killed him. That's what happens sometimes when you take drugs.

But not the 600 pounds kneeling on him. That was to help him
MAGA

 

[XponentialChaos]

Not even manslaughter. There were no signs of asphyxia according to the autopsy.

Chauvin is innocent.

George Floyd death: Preliminary autopsy shows no physical findings of asphyxia, strangulation

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Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

Manner of death: Homicide

What does that mean to you? They call it a "homicide" and they state "neck compression" after his cause of death. It's stated right on the medical report below:

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd,%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf

Here's a link with medical experts explaining what is discussed in the autopsies regarding the "lack of evidence of asphyxia":

"Take the confusion over asphyxiation. As he was dying, Floyd told the police officers that he couldn’t breathe, eventually stopped speaking and then went limp. So it surprised a lot of people when the autopsy reports came across as saying that they’d found no evidence of asphyxiation.

That is both a misunderstanding of the report and an example of the difficulty in identifying cause of death, experts said. It’s a misunderstanding because an earlier legal document, put out to explain the charges against the officer who kneeled on Floyd, said the county had found no injuries consistent with asphyxia caused by physical trauma. But the actual autopsy report doesn’t mention the word “asphyxia” at all. It does, however, describe “neck compression” as a direct cause of Floyd’s death — meaning the blood flow (and, thus, oxygen) to Floyd’s brain and heart were cut off. It doesn’t take physical trauma to asphyxiate someone.

And that’s where the difficulty of pinning down cause of death comes in, said Dr. Karl Williams, a forensic pathologist who is the chief medical examiner of Allegheny County (home to Pittsburgh), Pennsylvania. “After that video we know why he died,” Williams said. “But it doesn’t necessarily mean, OK, that there’s going to be any evidence of that.” You can make someone lose consciousness just by compressing the arteries and veins in their neck, cutting off blood flow to and from the brain, he told me."

The Two Autopsies Of George Floyd Aren’t As Different As They Seem

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