Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"

[iamwhatiseem]

And again - like the OP: I said he murdered him until I saw the body cam footage.

 

[harmonica]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

..OF COURSE it was not murder
..unlike someone who voluntarily goes to commit a crime or killing, the cop RESPONDED to a call.....and he was not trying to kill him--this is undeniable

 

[harmonica]

AND--NOT race related

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

We needed another thread on this...

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

So the cops can execute you if you have any moral failings? Really, Axis Mikey?

Don't you belong to a cult where your "Prophet" was lynched because he was accused of bigamy?

By the logic you just stated, the murder of Joseph Smith (dum-dum-dum-dum-dum) was totally justified. He was convicted of fraud in New York, ran a scam bank in Kirkland Ohio, was driven out of Missouri for political terrorism, and was marrying multiple women, some as young as 14.

I mean, if merely doing something bad makes it okay to murder you.... maybe you should join a new religion.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put this knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

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There was no execution or murder. Thats all emotional fairyland garbage.

 

[harmonica]

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

So the cops can execute you if you have any moral failings? Really, Axis Mikey?

Don't you belong to a cult where your "Prophet" was lynched because he was accused of bigamy?

By the logic you just stated, the murder of Joseph Smith (dum-dum-dum-dum-dum) was totally justified. He was convicted of fraud in New York, ran a scam bank in Kirkland Ohio, was driven out of Missouri for political terrorism, and was marrying multiple women, some as young as 14.

I mean, if merely doing something bad makes it okay to murder you.... maybe you should join a new religion.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put this knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

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There was no execution or murder. Thats all emotional fairyland garbage.

AND not race related.......
..people claiming it was murder/execution are racist dumbasses--making problems worse

 

[MisterBeale]

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public

Mostly agree, but Floyd WAS an enemy of the public and this is why the police were called to remove him.

But yes, they went too far. Seems the police never learn that their actions are closely watched. Even I knew this wasnt going to end well for anyone

No, he was NOT an enemy of the public.

He was a victim of an ill society, as many of us are. I suggest you look into the stats of how many folks are on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications. He was merely self-medicating for symptoms that many on this forum also feel. . . isolation, loniliness, depression, stress, panic, etc. . . .

If you think the way we have constructed our society is healthy, you have much to learn about why we fight and argue about policy, why there is so much wealth disparity, and why there is such a large partisan divide over policy.

If you do not understand the TRUE cause of addiction, I suggest you become educated. It IS NOT a moral failing of the individual, it is because we have constructed a disassociated and atomized society.

A healthy society would have no need for internet forums and computerized social networks.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public

Mostly agree, but Floyd WAS an enemy of the public and this is why the police were called to remove him.

But yes, they went too far. Seems the police never learn that their actions are closely watched. Even I knew this wasnt going to end well for anyone

No, he was NOT an enemy of the public.

He was a victim of an ill society, as many of us are. I suggest you look into the stats of how many folks are on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications. He was merely self-medicating for symptoms that many on this forum also feel. . . isolation, loniliness, depression, stress, panic, etc. . . .

If you think the way we have constructed our society is healthy, you have much to learn about why we fight and argue about policy, why there is so much wealth disparity, and why there is such a large partisan divide over policy.

If you do not understand the TRUE cause of addiction, I suggest you become educated. It IS NOT a moral failing of the individual, it is because we have constructed a disassociated and atomized society.

A healthy society would have no need for internet forums and computerized social networks.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MisterBeale]

Floyd had no healthy bonds.

 

[harmonica]

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public

Mostly agree, but Floyd WAS an enemy of the public and this is why the police were called to remove him.

But yes, they went too far. Seems the police never learn that their actions are closely watched. Even I knew this wasnt going to end well for anyone

No, he was NOT an enemy of the public.

He was a victim of an ill society, as many of us are. I suggest you look into the stats of how many folks are on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications. He was merely self-medicating for symptoms that many on this forum also feel. . . isolation, loniliness, depression, stress, panic, etc. . . .

If you think the way we have constructed our society is healthy, you have much to learn about why we fight and argue about policy, why there is so much wealth disparity, and why there is such a large partisan divide over policy.

If you do not understand the TRUE cause of addiction, I suggest you become educated. It IS NOT a moral failing of the individual, it is because we have constructed a disassociated and atomized society.

A healthy society would have no need for internet forums and computerized social networks.

..that mofo robbed a PREGNANT woman at gun point!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--he CHOSE to be a criminal jackass
...it's GOOD when a criminal --ANY COLOR--is dead---he committed that crime and did NOT turn his life around
..I don't care if they lean on a CRIMINAL'S neck or shoot them in the back
....I've had things stolen and I'm not made of $$$$$$$......they are a detriment to society--
doesn't matter what their life circumstances are

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[pyetro]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Was Floyd handcuffed while pinned down?

 

[ColonelAngus]

He lied to police and said he was not on anything. He was on ALL the drugs.

Floyd would not shut the fuck up and would not cooperate with police. He really could have helped himself if he would have sat in the back of the cop car.

The woman in the car with Floyd told police that Floyd had problems.

Shut up faggot lefties who are about to say THATS NO REASON TO KILL HIM! We know. STFU, you are adding nothing.

I would say involuntary manslaughter at worst at this time....but the trial is not over. He was trained to do what he did supposedly, do that is something to consider.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It was manslaughter

It was Drug Overdose.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

He would of never died except for the person punching him.

Well, now that's a blatant lie, Ahmed.

The ONLY way Floyd would have lived is if they had rushed him to the ER to get a shot of Naloxone.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Floyd DID die of a drug overdose.

. .. and yes, I do agree with you, what Chauvin did wasn't a causative factor.

BUT? What he didn't do had nothing to do with it? THAT, is a bridge too far. He was a callous and poorly trained officer.



Nah, I don't buy that what he "DIDN'T DO" had nothing to do with it, he was negligent.

If our police were adequately trained to recognize the signs of drug use and a potential drug overdose, and they took seriously the motto, "protect and serve," if we held them to the standard that we should, and they treated all citizens' life as sacred as they should?

He neither protected nor served the public, he saw Floyd as an enemy of the public, not a member of the public in crises.

What he DIDN'T do was, indeed, negligent.

He was a callous and poorly trained felon....As he was walking to the squad car, he, Floyd, was heard saying "I cant breathe'. When they tried to put him in the squad car peacefully 3 times, he was saying "I cant breathe". After the 5th resisting arrest, they put him on the ground. He was saying "I cant breathe" when he died of a Drug Overdose...

 

[mudwhistle]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

"a violent thug with a long rap sheet" = Democrat voter

 

[Esdraelon]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put this knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

floyd died of drug overdose---------and what chauvin did or didn't do had nothing to do with it.

You are playing games---you know this and yet you want to go after an innocent cop. YOu are sick.

I disagree, he died for the cops kneeling on him and esp Chauvin knee on the neck.

Most people die from covid with preexisting conditions but they still died of covid.

Knee to neck does not KILL-------------stop spinning chit. It is a move that is done hundreds of time everyday in america. Floyd died of drug overdose. The force needed to cut off someone's air supply or blood supply is to great for a knee to one side of the neck and back to cause especially with no signs of trauma. (Bruising, crushed bones, etc.)

If you look closely at where Chauvin's knee is, you'll see it's on the guy's cervical spine. As in, the bony structure posterior to the airway. Chauvin acted like an idiot by not getting up long after the guy stopped struggling but he didn't murder anyone. I'll make a prediction. If he isn't convicted of murder, Minneapolis burns again. Hell, it may burn even if he IS convicted of murder. Reparations, dontchaknow...

 

[mudwhistle]

It was manslaughter

Apparently the police department trains their officers to do this on violent suspects.
They actually train them to put their knee on their neck if they refuse to cooperate when being arrested.

The Minneapolis Police Department trained its officers to use the neck restraint that led to George Floyd's killing, according to court documents

The Minneapolis Police Department training manual, included in a court filing on Tuesday, said the maneuver can be used on suspects resisting arrest.

www.insider.com

 

[LilOlLady]

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Blaming the victim for his own murder? People with mental issues should be blamed also for police brutality? The cop used unnecessary force. You would not do this to a dog. The cops are acting like trial, jury, and executioner. The cop puts his hand in his pocket thus pushing down on his knee to put more pressure on George's neck. Everyone who saw this saw a live murder. period. No matter who he was George deserved his day in court and not on the ground getting the life choked out of him. Drugs and medical conditions did not kill him, the cop did.

 

[progressive hunter]

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

So the cops can execute you if you have any moral failings? Really, Axis Mikey?

Don't you belong to a cult where your "Prophet" was lynched because he was accused of bigamy?

By the logic you just stated, the murder of Joseph Smith (dum-dum-dum-dum-dum) was totally justified. He was convicted of fraud in New York, ran a scam bank in Kirkland Ohio, was driven out of Missouri for political terrorism, and was marrying multiple women, some as young as 14.

I mean, if merely doing something bad makes it okay to murder you.... maybe you should join a new religion.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put this knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

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FFS no one was executed,,,