Poland's clash of values in presidential election

[ESay]

Poland’s highly-charged presidential election is too close to call and a bitter battle that pitted a conservative incumbent against a pro-European alternative is bound to get more complicated.



An exit poll showed President Andrzej Duda with a thin margin over his rival, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. Both men declared victory and the challenger’s campaign is talking of “irregularities” in voting and planning protests. The highest turnout since the fall of communism shows that Poles are hugely invested in the vote.



Duda’s exit-poll lead -- 51% to 49% -- doesn’t take into account nearly half a million votes by Poles living abroad that may favor the challenger. Official results may be published on Monday.

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I wonder what Pollack would write Putin in the bulletin. Is it a form of masochism?

No. You know, not all Poles are russophobes, many of them prefer "Russian brothers" to Americans and Germans.

Yes, but that is illogical. During all times they were enemies (If we don't count the Sovit era when Poland didn't have a choice). And support Putin who play with former 'grandees' of Russia?

Yes, the relations between Slavic states never were simple, but they always have been relations between relatives.
Of course, the idea of Panslavism was more popular in the south Slavic states (even Russians are better than the Turks), but it is rather popular in West Slavic nations, too.
Blood is thicker than water.

It is quite understandable that the South Slaves would prefer Russia rather than Turkey.
The idea of Panslavism is an idea utopia. The political mentality are too different between Western and Eastern Slavs.

They are less different than Slavic and Germanic ones.

Linguistically yes. Culturally - not so sure.

Significant part of Russian culture was created by Poles, significant part of Polish culture has been based on the Russian one.
Now Pawel Kornew and Andrzej Sapkowski are much more popular in Poland and Russia, than Wolfgang Hohlbein in both of them.
And even in the terms of political culture, there were pretty good reasons to create V4 within the EU.

The Polish culture was created through significant influence of Western nations. Not Russian. Some insignificant personalities can't disapprove that.

What is V4? The Vishegrad group?

 

[Silver Cat]

Poland’s highly-charged presidential election is too close to call and a bitter battle that pitted a conservative incumbent against a pro-European alternative is bound to get more complicated.



An exit poll showed President Andrzej Duda with a thin margin over his rival, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. Both men declared victory and the challenger’s campaign is talking of “irregularities” in voting and planning protests. The highest turnout since the fall of communism shows that Poles are hugely invested in the vote.



Duda’s exit-poll lead -- 51% to 49% -- doesn’t take into account nearly half a million votes by Poles living abroad that may favor the challenger. Official results may be published on Monday.

View attachment 362687

I wonder what Pollack would write Putin in the bulletin. Is it a form of masochism?

No. You know, not all Poles are russophobes, many of them prefer "Russian brothers" to Americans and Germans.

Yes, but that is illogical. During all times they were enemies (If we don't count the Sovit era when Poland didn't have a choice). And support Putin who play with former 'grandees' of Russia?

Yes, the relations between Slavic states never were simple, but they always have been relations between relatives.
Of course, the idea of Panslavism was more popular in the south Slavic states (even Russians are better than the Turks), but it is rather popular in West Slavic nations, too.
Blood is thicker than water.

It is quite understandable that the South Slaves would prefer Russia rather than Turkey.
The idea of Panslavism is an idea utopia. The political mentality are too different between Western and Eastern Slavs.

They are less different than Slavic and Germanic ones.

Linguistically yes. Culturally - not so sure.

Significant part of Russian culture was created by Poles, significant part of Polish culture has been based on the Russian one.
Now Pawel Kornew and Andrzej Sapkowski are much more popular in Poland and Russia, than Wolfgang Hohlbein in both of them.
And even in the terms of political culture, there were pretty good reasons to create V4 within the EU.

The Polish culture was created through significant influence of Western nations. Not Russian. Some insignificant personalities can't disapprove that.

Both Poles and Russians are "Western" nations (in the wide understanding of the term).

What is V4? The Vishegrad group?

Yes. Three Slavic and one Hungarian states.

 

[ESay]

Poland’s highly-charged presidential election is too close to call and a bitter battle that pitted a conservative incumbent against a pro-European alternative is bound to get more complicated.



An exit poll showed President Andrzej Duda with a thin margin over his rival, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. Both men declared victory and the challenger’s campaign is talking of “irregularities” in voting and planning protests. The highest turnout since the fall of communism shows that Poles are hugely invested in the vote.



Duda’s exit-poll lead -- 51% to 49% -- doesn’t take into account nearly half a million votes by Poles living abroad that may favor the challenger. Official results may be published on Monday.

View attachment 362687

I wonder what Pollack would write Putin in the bulletin. Is it a form of masochism?

No. You know, not all Poles are russophobes, many of them prefer "Russian brothers" to Americans and Germans.

Yes, but that is illogical. During all times they were enemies (If we don't count the Sovit era when Poland didn't have a choice). And support Putin who play with former 'grandees' of Russia?

Yes, the relations between Slavic states never were simple, but they always have been relations between relatives.
Of course, the idea of Panslavism was more popular in the south Slavic states (even Russians are better than the Turks), but it is rather popular in West Slavic nations, too.
Blood is thicker than water.

It is quite understandable that the South Slaves would prefer Russia rather than Turkey.
The idea of Panslavism is an idea utopia. The political mentality are too different between Western and Eastern Slavs.

They are less different than Slavic and Germanic ones.

Linguistically yes. Culturally - not so sure.

Significant part of Russian culture was created by Poles, significant part of Polish culture has been based on the Russian one.
Now Pawel Kornew and Andrzej Sapkowski are much more popular in Poland and Russia, than Wolfgang Hohlbein in both of them.
And even in the terms of political culture, there were pretty good reasons to create V4 within the EU.

The Polish culture was created through significant influence of Western nations. Not Russian. Some insignificant personalities can't disapprove that.

Both Poles and Russians are "Western" nations (in the wide understanding of the term).

What is V4? The Vishegrad group?

Yes. Three Slavic and one Hungarian states.

And what is useful for Poland in such a group with small countries whose economies are totally dependent on the EU and whose military potential is quite insignificant?

 

[Silver Cat]

Poland’s highly-charged presidential election is too close to call and a bitter battle that pitted a conservative incumbent against a pro-European alternative is bound to get more complicated.



An exit poll showed President Andrzej Duda with a thin margin over his rival, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. Both men declared victory and the challenger’s campaign is talking of “irregularities” in voting and planning protests. The highest turnout since the fall of communism shows that Poles are hugely invested in the vote.



Duda’s exit-poll lead -- 51% to 49% -- doesn’t take into account nearly half a million votes by Poles living abroad that may favor the challenger. Official results may be published on Monday.

View attachment 362687

I wonder what Pollack would write Putin in the bulletin. Is it a form of masochism?

No. You know, not all Poles are russophobes, many of them prefer "Russian brothers" to Americans and Germans.

Yes, but that is illogical. During all times they were enemies (If we don't count the Sovit era when Poland didn't have a choice). And support Putin who play with former 'grandees' of Russia?

Yes, the relations between Slavic states never were simple, but they always have been relations between relatives.
Of course, the idea of Panslavism was more popular in the south Slavic states (even Russians are better than the Turks), but it is rather popular in West Slavic nations, too.
Blood is thicker than water.

It is quite understandable that the South Slaves would prefer Russia rather than Turkey.
The idea of Panslavism is an idea utopia. The political mentality are too different between Western and Eastern Slavs.

They are less different than Slavic and Germanic ones.

Linguistically yes. Culturally - not so sure.

Significant part of Russian culture was created by Poles, significant part of Polish culture has been based on the Russian one.
Now Pawel Kornew and Andrzej Sapkowski are much more popular in Poland and Russia, than Wolfgang Hohlbein in both of them.
And even in the terms of political culture, there were pretty good reasons to create V4 within the EU.

The Polish culture was created through significant influence of Western nations. Not Russian. Some insignificant personalities can't disapprove that.

Both Poles and Russians are "Western" nations (in the wide understanding of the term).

What is V4? The Vishegrad group?

Yes. Three Slavic and one Hungarian states.

And what is useful for Poland in such a group with small countries whose economies are totally dependent on the EU and whose military potential is quite insignificant?

What can be more important than friendship?

Only love!

And heaven!

 

[francoHFW]

So being tolerant of gays is worse than communism? What the heck is wrong with you? LOL

 

[ESay]

Poland’s highly-charged presidential election is too close to call and a bitter battle that pitted a conservative incumbent against a pro-European alternative is bound to get more complicated.



An exit poll showed President Andrzej Duda with a thin margin over his rival, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. Both men declared victory and the challenger’s campaign is talking of “irregularities” in voting and planning protests. The highest turnout since the fall of communism shows that Poles are hugely invested in the vote.



Duda’s exit-poll lead -- 51% to 49% -- doesn’t take into account nearly half a million votes by Poles living abroad that may favor the challenger. Official results may be published on Monday.

View attachment 362687

I wonder what Pollack would write Putin in the bulletin. Is it a form of masochism?

No. You know, not all Poles are russophobes, many of them prefer "Russian brothers" to Americans and Germans.

Yes, but that is illogical. During all times they were enemies (If we don't count the Sovit era when Poland didn't have a choice). And support Putin who play with former 'grandees' of Russia?

Yes, the relations between Slavic states never were simple, but they always have been relations between relatives.
Of course, the idea of Panslavism was more popular in the south Slavic states (even Russians are better than the Turks), but it is rather popular in West Slavic nations, too.
Blood is thicker than water.

It is quite understandable that the South Slaves would prefer Russia rather than Turkey.
The idea of Panslavism is an idea utopia. The political mentality are too different between Western and Eastern Slavs.

They are less different than Slavic and Germanic ones.

Linguistically yes. Culturally - not so sure.

Significant part of Russian culture was created by Poles, significant part of Polish culture has been based on the Russian one.
Now Pawel Kornew and Andrzej Sapkowski are much more popular in Poland and Russia, than Wolfgang Hohlbein in both of them.
And even in the terms of political culture, there were pretty good reasons to create V4 within the EU.

The Polish culture was created through significant influence of Western nations. Not Russian. Some insignificant personalities can't disapprove that.

Both Poles and Russians are "Western" nations (in the wide understanding of the term).

What is V4? The Vishegrad group?

Yes. Three Slavic and one Hungarian states.

And what is useful for Poland in such a group with small countries whose economies are totally dependent on the EU and whose military potential is quite insignificant?

What can be more important than friendship?

Only love!

And heaven!

Oh, dude. It would be better not to answer at all, than this.

 

[Silver Cat]

So being tolerant of gays is worse than communism? What the heck is wrong with you? LOL

Many of them just don't see big difference between "LGBT-activists" and the Communistic Party.

 

[francoHFW]

Many of them just don't see big difference between "LGBT-activists" and the Communistic Party.

Many of them don't see at all