Pocahontas is Delusional, Says Unions Will Make a Comeback

[AzogtheDefiler]

That is all you offer and then you get offended and tattle tale when challenged.

You're full of shit. Your post, "I hope your (sic) not serious" is an idiot-gram. Both my points are factually true, Obama inherited an economic crisis and had no map to follow; and, McConnell and the other members of Congress were hostile to every effort made by Obama to fix what the prior Congress and White House fucked up.

Triggered. LOL

You’re such a loser

You're such a dipshit.

I am not the 70 year old tattle tale. That’s you.

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

I can tell you’re a sissy boy tattle tale. BTW nothing came from that idle threat

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You're full of shit. Your post, "I hope your (sic) not serious" is an idiot-gram. Both my points are factually true, Obama inherited an economic crisis and had no map to follow; and, McConnell and the other members of Congress were hostile to every effort made by Obama to fix what the prior Congress and White House fucked up.

Triggered. LOL

You’re such a loser

You're such a dipshit.

I am not the 70 year old tattle tale. That’s you.

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

My sons are 41 and 36 and don't spend their time on message boards as do you. Both are responsible parents and FT employees.

You’re old. I thought discussing family was off limits? Will you tattle on yourself?

 

[Wyatt earp]

she's right, my friends.

unions built the middle class, unions will rebuild the middle class!

Will you unionize fast food workers and triple their salary and triple their benefits immedietely? How much do you think the cheapest burger will cost then?

Or will we return to the day when the store owner and his family produce quality burgers at a fair price. Fast food burgers are nothing more than a fuel stop, they are horrible.

We live in a global economy now..

We are not going back to the 1950s

You ignorant idiot..

 

[Wry Catcher]

Triggered. LOL

You’re such a loser

You're such a dipshit.

I am not the 70 year old tattle tale. That’s you.

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

My sons are 41 and 36 and don't spend their time on message boards as do you. Both are responsible parents and FT employees.

You’re old. I thought discussing family was off limits? Will you tattle on yourself?

You thought wrong, read the rules. My dad live to 94, don't expect me to check out anytime soon.

 

[Wry Catcher]

she's right, my friends.

unions built the middle class, unions will rebuild the middle class!

Will you unionize fast food workers and triple their salary and triple their benefits immedietely? How much do you think the cheapest burger will cost then?

Or will we return to the day when the store owner and his family produce quality burgers at a fair price. Fast food burgers are nothing more than a fuel stop, they are horrible.

We live in a global economy now..

We are not going back to the 1950s

You ignorant idiot..

LOL. Yeah, we do live in a global economy, what does that have to do with fast food here? Kobe Beef isn't served at McDonalds.

 

[Wyatt earp]

she's right, my friends.

unions built the middle class, unions will rebuild the middle class!

Will you unionize fast food workers and triple their salary and triple their benefits immedietely? How much do you think the cheapest burger will cost then?

Or will we return to the day when the store owner and his family produce quality burgers at a fair price. Fast food burgers are nothing more than a fuel stop, they are horrible.

We live in a global economy now..

We are not going back to the 1950s

You ignorant idiot..

LOL. Yeah, we do live in a global economy, what does that have to do with fast food here? Kobe Beef isn't served at McDonalds.

That's your problem?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You're such a dipshit.

I am not the 70 year old tattle tale. That’s you.

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

My sons are 41 and 36 and don't spend their time on message boards as do you. Both are responsible parents and FT employees.

You’re old. I thought discussing family was off limits? Will you tattle on yourself?

You thought wrong, read the rules. My dad live to 94, don't expect me to check out anytime soon.

Your mind is already gone.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The golden days when a man could feed a family of four and have a little home with a white picket fence without anything but a high school diploma are gone.

Where do you live, New York City? Get out to the midwest, life is still real here.

I'm in a rural area. The middle class route for those with no "trade" and no college is pretty much closed now. We've got lots and lots of those folks. They're living in junky apartments or rusty mobile homes unless they're real go getters and their partners are working equally hard.

Old Lady


Do you know how many Septic Pumps I have had to change in the last two plus years because the younger generation can not be bothered to learn?

Or

How many times a damn neighbor ask me to change belts on their Deer tractors because again a young male or female refuse to even youtube to learn?

There are so many things someone can do to earn a extra dollar that require to almost no education and just a lot of damn commonsense!

I took an entire kitchen sink area and moved it to tie into the bathroom plumbing in a small Apartment so the tenant could have a sitting area...

Never did it before but did it once and it worked...

My point?

Commonsense and willingness to work hard in dirty jobs is something many refuse to do...

Because the Government will give them the money for nothing...

My point, if anyone could please take the time to actually READ my post, is that people with only a high school diploma can't command the wages to own a home and support a wife and children on his salary alone like he could during the glory days of manufacturing and unions. That is all I'm saying. Sure people do those jobs. They paint houses and patch roofs and cut evergreen tips for Christmas wreaths and work gutting and fileting fish at the raised salmon factory. They can do stuff. They are not "middle class." I was not calling them lazy, Bruce.

You do know Plumbers make damn good money, right?

It does not require a four year, five year, eight year or even ten year degree from some college either...

Also you should check the Starting wages for Sealy Mattress outside Houston and then look at the cost of living before stating a young person can not live off that wage!

Maybe you should study the jobs first and then comment because a young adult can obtain a decent paying job but it mean they need to work and that is something many in today time refuse to do!

Walmart to hire hundreds of truck drivers, raise salary to nearly $90,000

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Pocahontas is an American folk hero to Native Americans. For a right winger to use her name to slander somebody is racist. It’s a terrible thing to do.
Republicans don’t understand this because they believe education is bad for America. Especially cult members. Cult members never want to hear what’s right.

Pocahontas is a delusional white woman who thinks she's Indian or at least did when she was getting preferential treatment because of it. Pretty scummy.

I think Limbaugh put it best today. He said Pocahontas looks like she escaped from of a bag of flour she's so white.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why do conservatives favor billionaires over their fellow working man? Must you always be slaves to your big biz masters ?

You are confused Moon Bat.

Billionaires pay tons of taxes and creates millions of jobs. Union pukes run up the cost of goods and services with their greedy bloated wages and inefficient work ethics.

Why do you stupid Libtards prefer collectivism over personal liberty? You think humans are goddamn ants or something? You idiot Moon Bats are slaves to big government.

Unions are vile greedy corrupt socialist shithead organizations. Piss on them.

The asshole corrupt Union bosses want the rank and file Union workers to vote for Democrats but many of the Union workers (who were forced to joining the Union by oppressive laws in the anti right to work states) will vote for Trump.

Yes God forbid that workers get a living wage. They’re the ones actually producing that revenue. Maybe corporations need to pay their executives less and their workers more.

Workers only produce one thing--work.

Revenue is made by their company; the people who purchased or leased the building, the people who purchased the equipment to make the product, the people who invested the money to make the business run, the people who pay the taxes, utility bills, the insurance coverage, the maintenance, the people who came up with the idea for the service or product.

If you take a shovel and dig a hole, you won't get paid anything. If a person with connections finds a customer who needs a hole dug, you still did the same work, but the employer is the one that made your work worth something.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Where do you live, New York City? Get out to the midwest, life is still real here.

I'm in a rural area. The middle class route for those with no "trade" and no college is pretty much closed now. We've got lots and lots of those folks. They're living in junky apartments or rusty mobile homes unless they're real go getters and their partners are working equally hard.

Old Lady


Do you know how many Septic Pumps I have had to change in the last two plus years because the younger generation can not be bothered to learn?

Or

How many times a damn neighbor ask me to change belts on their Deer tractors because again a young male or female refuse to even youtube to learn?

There are so many things someone can do to earn a extra dollar that require to almost no education and just a lot of damn commonsense!

I took an entire kitchen sink area and moved it to tie into the bathroom plumbing in a small Apartment so the tenant could have a sitting area...

Never did it before but did it once and it worked...

My point?

Commonsense and willingness to work hard in dirty jobs is something many refuse to do...

Because the Government will give them the money for nothing...

My point, if anyone could please take the time to actually READ my post, is that people with only a high school diploma can't command the wages to own a home and support a wife and children on his salary alone like he could during the glory days of manufacturing and unions. That is all I'm saying. Sure people do those jobs. They paint houses and patch roofs and cut evergreen tips for Christmas wreaths and work gutting and fileting fish at the raised salmon factory. They can do stuff. They are not "middle class." I was not calling them lazy, Bruce.

You do know Plumbers make damn good money, right?

It does not require a four year, five year, eight year or even ten year degree from some college either...

Also you should check the Starting wages for Sealy Mattress outside Houston and then look at the cost of living before stating a young person can not live off that wage!

Maybe you should study the jobs first and then comment because a young adult can obtain a decent paying job but it mean they need to work and that is something many in today time refuse to do!

Walmart to hire hundreds of truck drivers, raise salary to nearly $90,000

Then factor in jobs created from Mechanics to everything from people working and yet people can not find a decent paying job unless it is union or they get a degree in liberal arts major...

Well that is how the left think Unions are needed today...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Greedy bastards got what they deserved.

<<“Unions built the middle class—and unions will rebuild the middle class,” Warren wrote. “If we want more good American jobs, then we need stronger unions and more power in the hands of the people.”>>

Elizabeth Warren: 'Unions Will Rebuild America’s Middle Class'

Elizabeth Warren is completely correct.

Except she omits the part that unions are why our jobs went overseas.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I am not the 70 year old tattle tale. That’s you.

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

My sons are 41 and 36 and don't spend their time on message boards as do you. Both are responsible parents and FT employees.

You’re old. I thought discussing family was off limits? Will you tattle on yourself?

You thought wrong, read the rules. My dad live to 94, don't expect me to check out anytime soon.

Your mind is already gone.

Not yet, but going on your posts, even if I've lost a bit, I'm well above your level in education, experience and general knowledge.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm in a rural area. The middle class route for those with no "trade" and no college is pretty much closed now. We've got lots and lots of those folks. They're living in junky apartments or rusty mobile homes unless they're real go getters and their partners are working equally hard.

Old Lady


Do you know how many Septic Pumps I have had to change in the last two plus years because the younger generation can not be bothered to learn?

Or

How many times a damn neighbor ask me to change belts on their Deer tractors because again a young male or female refuse to even youtube to learn?

There are so many things someone can do to earn a extra dollar that require to almost no education and just a lot of damn commonsense!

I took an entire kitchen sink area and moved it to tie into the bathroom plumbing in a small Apartment so the tenant could have a sitting area...

Never did it before but did it once and it worked...

My point?

Commonsense and willingness to work hard in dirty jobs is something many refuse to do...

Because the Government will give them the money for nothing...

My point, if anyone could please take the time to actually READ my post, is that people with only a high school diploma can't command the wages to own a home and support a wife and children on his salary alone like he could during the glory days of manufacturing and unions. That is all I'm saying. Sure people do those jobs. They paint houses and patch roofs and cut evergreen tips for Christmas wreaths and work gutting and fileting fish at the raised salmon factory. They can do stuff. They are not "middle class." I was not calling them lazy, Bruce.

You do know Plumbers make damn good money, right?

It does not require a four year, five year, eight year or even ten year degree from some college either...

Also you should check the Starting wages for Sealy Mattress outside Houston and then look at the cost of living before stating a young person can not live off that wage!

Maybe you should study the jobs first and then comment because a young adult can obtain a decent paying job but it mean they need to work and that is something many in today time refuse to do!

Walmart to hire hundreds of truck drivers, raise salary to nearly $90,000

Then factor in jobs created from Mechanics to everything from people working and yet people can not find a decent paying job unless it is union or they get a degree in liberal arts major...

Well that is how the left think Unions are needed today...

The left (like Warren) are ignorant of our past. Unions were good at one time, but like anything else that gets too big, they also got too greedy.

I would love for her to explain the dynamics of her plot. How is government going to force unions into industry? Even if they could, and industry was forced to overpay labor, who would buy their products? Certainly not the American consumer. Certainly not foreign consumers. Who is going to buy all this union made stuff?

Maybe she has a plan to force us to buy American made goods, like DumBama forced us to buy healthcare insurance. How did that work out?

 

[Wry Catcher]

she's right, my friends.

unions built the middle class, unions will rebuild the middle class!

Will you unionize fast food workers and triple their salary and triple their benefits immedietely? How much do you think the cheapest burger will cost then?

Or will we return to the day when the store owner and his family produce quality burgers at a fair price. Fast food burgers are nothing more than a fuel stop, they are horrible.

We live in a global economy now..

We are not going back to the 1950s

You ignorant idiot..

LOL. Yeah, we do live in a global economy, what does that have to do with fast food here? Kobe Beef isn't served at McDonalds.

That's your problem?

Nope, I don't eat fast food. In fact my wife has discovered "Hello Fresh" which delivers dinners for us twice a week which are very nutritious. Try it, you might create a synapse or two and one day make sense.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It appears the usual hacks have dominated this thread. As the kook go, so I do (to other threads).

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why do conservatives favor billionaires over their fellow working man? Must you always be slaves to your big biz masters ?

Why when given a choice as to whether or not to join a union most people opt out?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I can tell, you are extremely immature.

My sons are 41 and 36 and don't spend their time on message boards as do you. Both are responsible parents and FT employees.

You’re old. I thought discussing family was off limits? Will you tattle on yourself?

You thought wrong, read the rules. My dad live to 94, don't expect me to check out anytime soon.

Your mind is already gone.

Not yet, but going on your posts, even if I've lost a bit, I'm well above your level in education, experience and general knowledge.

See, case in point. Dementia has set in.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why do conservatives favor billionaires over their fellow working man? Must you always be slaves to your big biz masters ?

You are confused Moon Bat.

Billionaires pay tons of taxes and creates millions of jobs. Union pukes run up the cost of goods and services with their greedy bloated wages and inefficient work ethics.

Why do you stupid Libtards prefer collectivism over personal liberty? You think humans are goddamn ants or something? You idiot Moon Bats are slaves to big government.

Unions are vile greedy corrupt socialist shithead organizations. Piss on them.

The asshole corrupt Union bosses want the rank and file Union workers to vote for Democrats but many of the Union workers (who were forced to joining the Union by oppressive laws in the anti right to work states) will vote for Trump.

They wouldn’t be billionaires without those workers . Unions help the workers get their fair value .

You cons act as if the purpose of the country is to offer us as fodder to the super rich .

No.
Unions are not what they once were. Their contribution to the average American is indeed one of the most important factors, if not THE most important factor in creating the middle class.
That was pre 1970.
After 1970, union manufacturers were waste deep in pension funding as well as financing extraordinary benefit packages.
The old saying "too much of a good thing is never a good thing" applies.
Take my father. He began working for GM in 1968. He retired at 52 after working 28 years. FIFTY TWO. How?
It was 1993. GM began early buyouts once realizing pension funding was eventually, and literally going to bankrupt the company. (which of course that and other problems it did) My Dad dies two years ago at 78 years old. My mother is still alive. Beginning in 1993 to 2017 Dad received 80% pension. 24 years. My mother still receives that pension. She has a good chance of living for at least 5 years more, but probably 10. If so that means Dad & Mom received a pension for 34 years. Six years longer than he worked there. Not to mention they both have health insurance provided.
That is not sustainable. Especially in the global market we live in today.

US car companies began to cheapen the parts and engineering in their vehicles to makeup for those legacy costs. Foreign car companies invested their money into superior parts and engineering, and were able to avoid the unions. The unions they do have are nothing like the UAW unions.

I just bought a used car from Toyota, this is my third Camry. It's a 2016, and the car has 20,000 miles on it. It came with a two year, 20,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. The finance guy wanted to sell me an extended 75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty for $1,700. I told him the reason I came back to Toyota for a car is because they never break down, so the cost of the extended warranty would likely not be a good investment. We haggled, and he got me to buy that extended warranty for $1,200. It comes with free towing, car rental while mine is in the shop, tire changes on the road, every five years a protective wax coating, and the least thing that malfunctions, they will take care of it for free.

American cars can't offer you the same coverage, because they'd lose money. My last American made car, the mechanic drove it more than I did after 30,000 miles.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Greedy bastards got what they deserved.

<<“Unions built the middle class—and unions will rebuild the middle class,” Warren wrote. “If we want more good American jobs, then we need stronger unions and more power in the hands of the people.”>>

Elizabeth Warren: 'Unions Will Rebuild America’s Middle Class'

Soros is pushing her out in front. He's busing in thousands of "supporters" to all her events

She's a real Commie with no shame or ethics so - she's the ONE!

If Warren or Harris are nominated Trump win all 57 States, Russian vote and possibly the North Korean vote...

Warren and Harris only hope would be the Chinese vote...

The dems can't import enough Illegals to make up for everyone fleeing the democrat Party

Oh yes they can, and will unless stopped.

Their goal is to make whites a minority in this country for the first time in history ASAP. Once that is accomplished, they will have ability to sustain a one-party government for eternity.