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Why is it ok for Firms to use funds to lobby elected representatives, that may impact the bottom line of employees and stockholders?
So, neither is money donated to political Causes by owners or management without voluntary signatories that, that is what Profit is to be Used for with their Labor.why complain about unions; whiners on the Right?Absolutely correct.
The money unions donate to political causes isn't their money. That's why.
I have no idea what the hell the above is supposed to signify.
Management represents the owners. Deciding how company funds are spent is its responsibility. Labor has no say in how company funds are spent, just as your neighbor has no say in how you spend your pay check. They have no legitimate claim on it.
thank you; i knew you didn't have a clue or a Cause.
Why should a Firm have any say in how union funds are collected or spent?
Nope; please cite those costs. in any case, why does th right insist on income taxes in the first place, with their silly wars on silly abstractions such as crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.Why is it the governments responsibility to do union deductions?
Let them set up voluntary bill pay through their bank.
Bill pay through your bank costs money. Payroll deduction costs zero for everyone. If my employees want a voluntary deduction made, they log-in to their account and set it up. Cost nothing for everybody.
False. Bill Pay costs me zero. Automatic deduction costs BILLIONS to run through the IRS and government agencies that costs ALL OF US TONS OF MONEY IN TAXES.
You full of crap. Now I know you are fruit.
Why shouldn't a Firm collect it if it is in charge of payroll and other deductions?the corporation is not paying it, merely collecting it like it does for every other similar cost factor.Because they own the business, if the worker wants to make a donation they do it on their own. If the worker dislikes what the company does with the company's money, he can quit or start their own company.
how is that different from collecting dues from Labor for unions?
The worker needs to make the donation or pay the fee, not the corporation.
Why should the corporation collect it? What it is actually doing is stealing it from the worker for the benefit of the union management.
so, why do you care how a firm spends due it collects? hear-say and sooth-say much?do you have a choice how the Firm you provide labor for spends their political contributions?If unions are such a good thing, why are they so concerned about not being able to take their dues without your consent?
Could it be that unions realize that they don't provide a service to the people and that said people won't pay dues if they have a choice?
Nope. It's none of your damn business.
A firm doesn't have to be an agency of the government, it just has to collect for everyone not just the favored few.yes, the employer is a collection agency for data and information relevant to any public sector.The employer has to do it anyway;; however, you may have a good point. Unions should merely hire their own labor and lease them to employers.Why do they need to? The union needs to be responsible for getting their own money. It is not the responsibility of a company to collect for a union. How difficult is it for the union to track their own workers? Oh wait, you think union employees are deadbeats and irresponsible with their money.
The employer isn't a collection agency, they don't pay your car payment or house payment. The worker is responsible for keeping his union membership up to date.
Wrong. An employer is not an agency of the government. I know turds like you want them to be, but that is not why businesses exist.
fullers of fallacy like you never have a clue or a Cause.
Firms are already forced to collect.So, neither is money donated to political Causes by owners or management without voluntary signatories that, that is what Profit is to be Used for with their Labor.why complain about unions; whiners on the Right?
The money unions donate to political causes isn't their money. That's why.
I have no idea what the hell the above is supposed to signify.
Management represents the owners. Deciding how company funds are spent is its responsibility. Labor has no say in how company funds are spent, just as your neighbor has no say in how you spend your pay check. They have no legitimate claim on it.
thank you; i knew you didn't have a clue or a Cause.
Why should a Firm have any say in how union funds are collected or spent?
They shouldn't so long as the firm isn't being forced to collect them.
That's sort of like "screwing over" a thief by taking away his stolen loot.the right doesn't have a problem with that right now; their passion of the moment is to "screw over" unions.We also need to get rid of withholding income taxes...that is the best tool the politicians have for raising taxes...if you don't see it...you don't get mad...and they just keep raising those taxes....
Firms are already forced to collect.So, neither is money donated to political Causes by owners or management without voluntary signatories that, that is what Profit is to be Used for with their Labor.The money unions donate to political causes isn't their money. That's why.
I have no idea what the hell the above is supposed to signify.
Management represents the owners. Deciding how company funds are spent is its responsibility. Labor has no say in how company funds are spent, just as your neighbor has no say in how you spend your pay check. They have no legitimate claim on it.
thank you; i knew you didn't have a clue or a Cause.
Why should a Firm have any say in how union funds are collected or spent?
They shouldn't so long as the firm isn't being forced to collect them.
only the cognitively dissonant Right wants to keep our silly wars on silly abstractions to practice financing them with our Tax monies via direct forms of taxation. rodnim.Nope; please cite those costs. in any case, why does th right insist on income taxes in the first place, with their silly wars on silly abstractions such as crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.Why is it the governments responsibility to do union deductions?
Let them set up voluntary bill pay through their bank.
Bill pay through your bank costs money. Payroll deduction costs zero for everyone. If my employees want a voluntary deduction made, they log-in to their account and set it up. Cost nothing for everybody.
False. Bill Pay costs me zero. Automatic deduction costs BILLIONS to run through the IRS and government agencies that costs ALL OF US TONS OF MONEY IN TAXES.
You full of crap. Now I know you are fruit.
The right doesn't insist on income taxes, nimrod. The right wants to abolish the income tax.
only the cognitively dissonant Right wants to keep our silly wars on silly abstractions to practice financing them with our Tax monies via direct forms of taxation. rodnim.Nope; please cite those costs. in any case, why does th right insist on income taxes in the first place, with their silly wars on silly abstractions such as crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.Why is it the governments responsibility to do union deductions?
Let them set up voluntary bill pay through their bank.
Bill pay through your bank costs money. Payroll deduction costs zero for everyone. If my employees want a voluntary deduction made, they log-in to their account and set it up. Cost nothing for everybody.
False. Bill Pay costs me zero. Automatic deduction costs BILLIONS to run through the IRS and government agencies that costs ALL OF US TONS OF MONEY IN TAXES.
You full of crap. Now I know you are fruit.
The right doesn't insist on income taxes, nimrod. The right wants to abolish the income tax.
Not with collective bargaining; Person on the Right who is habitually, with only a lost clue and a lost Cause. No honest Injuens available for your Cause; it shows in your arguments.Why shouldn't a Firm collect it if it is in charge of payroll and other deductions?the corporation is not paying it, merely collecting it like it does for every other similar cost factor.how is that different from collecting dues from Labor for unions?
The worker needs to make the donation or pay the fee, not the corporation.
Why should the corporation collect it? What it is actually doing is stealing it from the worker for the benefit of the union management.
Pay is a contractual arrangement between the firm and its employees. Why should it be forced to do the bidding of a third party?
You really don't have a clue what freedom or property rights are about, do you?
with only your appeal to ignorance?A firm doesn't have to be an agency of the government, it just has to collect for everyone not just the favored few.yes, the employer is a collection agency for data and information relevant to any public sector.The employer has to do it anyway;; however, you may have a good point. Unions should merely hire their own labor and lease them to employers.
The employer isn't a collection agency, they don't pay your car payment or house payment. The worker is responsible for keeping his union membership up to date.
Wrong. An employer is not an agency of the government. I know turds like you want them to be, but that is not why businesses exist.
fullers of fallacy like you never have a clue or a Cause.
That makes it an agency of the government, dumbass.
unions have more Informed Consent than Firms.That's sort of like "screwing over" a thief by taking away his stolen loot.the right doesn't have a problem with that right now; their passion of the moment is to "screw over" unions.We also need to get rid of withholding income taxes...that is the best tool the politicians have for raising taxes...if you don't see it...you don't get mad...and they just keep raising those taxes....
it is not wrong; you only have an appeal to ignorance, not a valid rebuttal. want to try and cite some facts, this time; Person on the (habitually disingenuous) Right.Firms are already forced to collect.So, neither is money donated to political Causes by owners or management without voluntary signatories that, that is what Profit is to be Used for with their Labor.
I have no idea what the hell the above is supposed to signify.
Management represents the owners. Deciding how company funds are spent is its responsibility. Labor has no say in how company funds are spent, just as your neighbor has no say in how you spend your pay check. They have no legitimate claim on it.
thank you; i knew you didn't have a clue or a Cause.
Why should a Firm have any say in how union funds are collected or spent?
They shouldn't so long as the firm isn't being forced to collect them.
That's wrong also, but it's worse when the firm collects for some third party rather than for the government.
Not with collective bargaining; Person on the Right who is habitually, with only a lost clue and a lost Cause. No honest Injuens available for your Cause; it shows in your arguments.Why shouldn't a Firm collect it if it is in charge of payroll and other deductions?the corporation is not paying it, merely collecting it like it does for every other similar cost factor.The worker needs to make the donation or pay the fee, not the corporation.
Why should the corporation collect it? What it is actually doing is stealing it from the worker for the benefit of the union management.
Pay is a contractual arrangement between the firm and its employees. Why should it be forced to do the bidding of a third party?
You really don't have a clue what freedom or property rights are about, do you?
unions have more Informed Consent than Firms.That's sort of like "screwing over" a thief by taking away his stolen loot.the right doesn't have a problem with that right now; their passion of the moment is to "screw over" unions.We also need to get rid of withholding income taxes...that is the best tool the politicians have for raising taxes...if you don't see it...you don't get mad...and they just keep raising those taxes....
it is not wrong; you only have an appeal to ignorance, not a valid rebuttal. want to try and cite some facts, this time; Person on the (habitually disingenuous) Right.Firms are already forced to collect.I have no idea what the hell the above is supposed to signify.
Management represents the owners. Deciding how company funds are spent is its responsibility. Labor has no say in how company funds are spent, just as your neighbor has no say in how you spend your pay check. They have no legitimate claim on it.
thank you; i knew you didn't have a clue or a Cause.
Why should a Firm have any say in how union funds are collected or spent?
They shouldn't so long as the firm isn't being forced to collect them.
That's wrong also, but it's worse when the firm collects for some third party rather than for the government.
Is there some secret probationary moral regarding false witness bearing for a Lord God or a Lord Satan?
Collective bargaining involves more Informed Consent than simply getting hired on an allegedly at-will basis.Not with collective bargaining; Person on the Right who is habitually, with only a lost clue and a lost Cause. No honest Injuens available for your Cause; it shows in your arguments.Why shouldn't a Firm collect it if it is in charge of payroll and other deductions?the corporation is not paying it, merely collecting it like it does for every other similar cost factor.
Why should the corporation collect it? What it is actually doing is stealing it from the worker for the benefit of the union management.
Pay is a contractual arrangement between the firm and its employees. Why should it be forced to do the bidding of a third party?
You really don't have a clue what freedom or property rights are about, do you?
Collective bargaining is not a voluntary arrangement for the firm or even a lot of the employees. The government forces it on them. If the firm was able to contract with who it liked, it would tell the union to get the fuck out and never come back. Collective bargaining is being forced to do the bidding of a third party.
Collective bargaining is a form of democracy in action; only the Right objects to representation for Labor as the least wealthy.unions have more Informed Consent than Firms.That's sort of like "screwing over" a thief by taking away his stolen loot.the right doesn't have a problem with that right now; their passion of the moment is to "screw over" unions.We also need to get rid of withholding income taxes...that is the best tool the politicians have for raising taxes...if you don't see it...you don't get mad...and they just keep raising those taxes....
The firm doesn't consent to anything the union imposes on it, except in the sense that a the victim of a mugging consents to turning over his wallet to the mugger.
