Plan Submitted For All Americans to Pay Federal Taxes

[francoHFW]

If they have some skin in the game, they are less likely to want all the commie socialist bullshit.

One with no skin in the game has no interest in being fiscally responsible.

You have no clue, even the poorest 5th of the country pays 20% in taxes on average. google the only tax graph you need to know.... The United states is the richest country in the world and the only modern country that doesn't have a living wage healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training an ID card to end illegal immigration. You people have no clue whatsoever change the damn channel

 

[jc456]

All true - still he needs to pay the same percent of his income as the middle class does.

look, not that I'm a backer of the guy, the fact is you have no idea how much he pays. Just saying. I'd appreciate my side being careful what they write. Unless you do know, then let's see the numbers. But, I doubt you have them, so your ability to make such a statement doesn't exist.

 

[hadit]

Could you imagine Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos paying 10% of their income?

They wouldn't back democrats anymore if they had to pay the same percent as the Bourgeoisie. The elite bought all these tax dodges - a flat tax would make that all worthless.

It is funny to hear ultra-wealthy left-wingers complain that they don't pay enough in taxes when you know:

1. They hire armies of tax attorneys to keep their taxes as low as possible.
2. They take the bulk of their income in low taxed Capital Gains, so raising the tax on regular income won't impact them much at all.
3. They spend a lot of money lobbying and getting chummy with legislators to make sure that any tax laws have loopholes they can access.
4. They could pay a lot more in taxes tomorrow. There's nothing stopping them.

 

[francoHFW]

He's a traitor.

It should be a felony with a sentence of no less that than 10 years to employ illegals. And no plausible deniability.

Pass the 2010 democratic Immigration Bill that started out with an ID card and end this ridiculous GOP mess like every other modern country already has, super duper

 

[debbiedowner]

I’ve always advocated that all Americans must pay Federal taxes. Every American has a vested interest in our nation, there’s zero reason no American should not take part in that process of keeping our nation going.

Even if it’s 0.01% of their income, it’s an active participation role.

MSN

So, what you and Scott are saying is that a disabled vet drawing VA disability should be pay taxes on that money?

The only way to make every American to pay taxes is establish a VAT and forget all this GD paperwork each year.

 

[jc456]

I'm trying to find the article that explains it. He does something with his stocks. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Bottom line is how he pays himself allows him to pay really really really low taxes. If any at all.

Bezos can skip paying taxes on his accumulated wealth from the Amazon stock because stock gains aren't taxed until they are realized by selling off the stock: Since those stocks represent value, but cannot be used as tender, they aren't counted as "income" — even if they appreciate in value tremendously, like those of

How billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk avoid paying federal income tax while increasing their net worth by billions

American Billionaires are able to skip paying federal income taxes by reducing their income to zero, even as their net worth soars.

www.businessinsider.com

And don't call me stupid when it's the crazy tax scheme you and I both don't fully understand because we aren't rich enough to take advantage. You're a good lap dog or house slave to defend it.

just like what I just wrote, you have no fking clue what that man pays in taxes. Some media puke says something and it must be right? You really believe someone in the media knows how much tax money he pays? Really?

I know musk just showed he will be paying 11 billion in taxes for 2021. Prove he won't. Can you honestly say you can? come on man, get your fking head out of the medias asshole and man up.

 

[jc456]

So, what you and Scott are saying is that a disabled vet drawing VA disability should be pay taxes on that money?

The only way to make every American to pay taxes is establish a VAT and forget all this GD paperwork each year.

sure, why shouldn't he pay federal taxes?

 

[struth]

Yet rich people have been doing it since at least the 1970's. And they gained an ally when Reagan got elected. Several things happened.

A. Companies started hiring illegals and no punishment for doing it.
B. Sending jobs overseas. Bush 1 invented NAFTA.
C. Breaking unions
D. Reagan, Bush & Trump tax breaks redistributed wealth. Rolling them back would be redistribution? Then giving them was redistribution.

When they got those tax cuts, they came with cuts to social programs right? That's redistribution of wealth.

And it's not just corporations who hire illegals. Rich people like Trump hire illegals to work on their properties. Rather than pay Americans those high wages, the rich hire illegals. They say this costs the middle class billions of dollars every year. And it saves the rich billions of dollars every year. Wealth redistribution?

You just don't like it when the distribution doesn't go your way.

hahaha
1) companies have hired illegals since well…ever, they didn’t just start in the 70s
2) hhhaa companies have been going over seas as soon as they could, and found it to be more affordable to do so, thanks to unions
3) unions fell apart due to corruption, and basically no need for them
4) tax cuts allow people to keep more of the money they earned themselves. It’s not wealth redistribution to keep money you actually earned. It’s redistribution when you, or the govt, takes that money by force and gives it to people like yourself that are obviously too stupid to earn a living

 

[debbiedowner]

sure, why shouldn't he pay federal taxes?

VA disability has never been taxed and won't be.

 

[sealybobo]

hahaha
1) companies have hired illegals since well…ever, they didn’t just start in the 70s
2) hhhaa companies have been going over seas as soon as they could, and found it to be more affordable to do so, thanks to unions
3) unions fell apart due to corruption, and basically no need for them
4) tax cuts allow people to keep more of the money they earned themselves. It’s not wealth redistribution to keep money you actually earned. It’s redistribution when you, or the govt, takes that money by force and gives it to people like yourself that are obviously too stupid to earn a living

These were your comebacks in the 2000's. No, I just showed you that our government was going after illegal employers until, Bush. And companies going overseas really picked up steam in the 2000's. Mass exodus. And Bush gave them tax breaks on their way out.
We know your anti union comeback. Tax cuts grew the wage gap, drove up the debt and caused inflation.

 

[AntonToo]

Flat Tax + no Business Visas = Super Low Unemployment.

As opposed to super low unemployment we have now?

Our short and long term problem is LABOR SUPPLY, with record number of jobs unfilled and aging population and here is you pushing solutions that excerbate these problems even further.

 

[initforme]

Unemployment means nothing as jobs that pay $10 don't count as true jobs. Same can be said for $15 per hour.

 

[Care4all]

One of Biden’s first actions was to order the DHS to not go after companies hiring illegals

Link? Or bull crap.

 

[Indeependent]

As opposed to super low unemployment we have now?

Our short and long term problem is LABOR SUPPLY, with record number of jobs unfilled and aging population and here is you pushing solutions that excerbate these problems even further.

Yes, Trump did a great job but now the trespassers are back.
I know you have a great job and don't care about minorities; you can deal with that aspect of your character with God after you pass from this world.

 

[Care4all]

When income taxes were first created, there was a Personal Exemption, equivalent to the first $65000 of income you earned a year...in today's dollars.

Federal income taxes were never meant to tax the poor or middle class's income.

 

[BlindBoo]

Under flat taxes, income from ALL sources, dividends, capital gain, etc. is counted.

No loopholes.

No reason not to have a progressive tax scale based on all income sources, no loopholes.

Impose budget restrictions on deficit spending on Congress as well as term limits for Congresscritters.

 

[Indeependent]

No reason not to have a progressive tax scale based on all income sources, no loopholes.

Impose budget restrictions on deficit spending on Congress as well as term limits for Congresscritters.

I'm sure Congress is ignoring Wall Street and reading our posts.

 

[g5000]

I’ve always advocated that all Americans must pay Federal taxes. Every American has a vested interest in our nation, there’s zero reason no American should not take part in that process of keeping our nation going.

Even if it’s 0.01% of their income, it’s an active participation role.

MSN

Republicans: Tax and spend.

 

[Care4all]

All low income workers already pay federal taxes. They pay social security tax and Medicare taxes on their entire income.

Plus the poor pays most of the federal cigarette taxes...along with other excise taxes.

They already pay federal taxes and have a stake.

 

[g5000]

This gives the poor a great reason to vote. I love it. Make this a midterm issue. See if America is finally ready for a flat tax. Why not? I mean we don't know because it's never been tried but there's always a first time for everything.

Some drawbacks of a flat tax rate system include lack of wealth redistribution, the added burden on middle and lower-income families, and tax rate wars with neighboring countries.

A flat tax is regressive.

No tax "solution" of any kind will work unless we ban all tax expenditures.