Ok..... So who is telling the truth?

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Us says Iran wants to make a deal....Iran says no they don't.
The strait is still closed....Iran isn't budging and in fact threating to do even more.



yet we continue to hear that we're in the brink of peace.

Shrug.....

I mean....what is this?


Jo
 
Even if Trump gets Iran to negotiate and make a deal I highly doubt that they will keep it. Why can't Trump see that?
 
Us says Iran wants to make a deal....Iran says no they don't.
The strait is still closed....Iran isn't budging and in fact threating to do even more.

yet we continue to hear that we're in the brink of peace.

Shrug.....

I mean....what is this?


Jo
well i keep hearing Russia is beating the Ukraine and vice versa,,,,here it is what, 4 years later, both still going at it.....
 
Trump's appeasing the TDS loonies.


Well it's annoying that he keeps dragging this thing out. It's a HUGE part of the reason why I'm not as much of a Trump supporter anymore. I don't dislike him and he's a whole LOT better than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, but I'm losing my patience with him.
 
Here we go again....

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Trump has been engaged in doing this since the start of the war. It is market manipulation. He has made Nancy Pelosi look like a rank amateur.




 
Well it's annoying that he keeps dragging this thing out. It's a HUGE part of the reason why I'm not as much of a Trump supporter anymore. I don't dislike him and he's a whole LOT better than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, but I'm losing my patience with him.
Iran is the one dragging this out. They want to buy time so as to recover from damage we've done them and likely rebuild their strike back capability. Possibly also find a way to "Get out of Dodge with some of the national treasure".

Theocracy ruling Iran doesn't care about their people, only fulfilling the mandates of Islamic Jihad & their twelver version of apocalypse.

Trump is being patient, and knows he holds the higher, winning cards. Restraint is for other factors on our side to develop if the mullahs don't want to comply. Also to show that after 47 years of Muslim assault on the West, we also have patience. The pause gives us time to replenish our 'ammo' for the next round of strikes.

I blame the instant results conditioning of TV/media programming that have many showing no patience and wanting an instant resolution to a matter which is the current expression of a 1400 year old global war.
 
Us says Iran wants to make a deal....Iran says no they don't.
The strait is still closed....Iran isn't budging and in fact threating to do even more.



yet we continue to hear that we're in the brink of peace.

Shrug.....

I mean....what is this?


Jo
Iran has two different messages. One for the negotiations and second for its people. They cant allow the people to know how badly they have been defeated or they will revolt.
 
Iran is the one dragging this out. They want to buy time so as to recover from damage we've done them and likely rebuild their strike back capability. Possibly also find a way to "Get out of Dodge with some of the national treasure".

Theocracy ruling Iran doesn't care about their people, only fulfilling the mandates of Islamic Jihad & their twelver version of apocalypse.

Trump is being patient, and knows he holds the higher, winning cards. Restraint is for other factors on our side to develop if the mullahs don't want to comply. Also to show that after 47 years of Muslim assault on the West, we also have patience. The pause gives us time to replenish our 'ammo' for the next round of strikes.

I blame the instant results conditioning of TV/media programming that have many showing no patience and wanting an instant resolution to a matter which is the current expression of a 1400 year old global war.



Good point but if Trump gives Iran a longer leash they're just going to choke him with it.
 
Iran has two different messages. One for the negotiations and second for its people. They cant allow the people to know how badly they have been defeated or they will revolt.
I think the people are willing to revolt anyway.
But they aren't armed or prepared enough for such to succeed.
Part of Trump's willingness to drag out negotiations could be to buy time will we arm, train, prep, etc. the anti-Theocracy revolt.
 
Us says Iran wants to make a deal....Iran says no they don't.
The strait is still closed....Iran isn't budging and in fact threating to do even more.



yet we continue to hear that we're in the brink of peace.

Shrug.....

I mean....what is this?


Jo

Bub,

Trump trades on the lies and makes lots of $$.

Here...

The reason Trump is unpredictable is not from genius, it is from being a lying conman. Back when Trump ran in 2016, NPR had a piece on him when he ran casinos in NJ and how he lied to the NJ Casino Commission to make the deal, promising them he won't issue junk bonds if they approve the acquisition. And what does Trump do after the acquisition of the casinos? He issues junk bonds, takes as much as he can and lets the casinos go bankrupt.

Google: 'Opening The Books On Donald Trump's Business Deals In Atlantic City'

Point is...Trump is a compulsive liar, completely untrustworthy. Would you feel good about him as your general in battle? Or would you be worried that Trump would sell you out? Would you like to go into business with Trump or would you worry about him cheating you? Trump always has to come out on top with any transaction. That means you lose.

I'm not saying Iran is 100%. But they had their negotiators assassinated twice trying to do a peace agreement with Jewmerica.

shtff never holiday beach.webp
 
Good point but if Trump gives Iran a longer leash they're just going to choke him with it.
Choke themselves with it.

Only the American political Left could choke Trump.
That's because they care more to preserve their political power and path to fascism than they do the ideals and future of the USA.
 
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