Plan Submitted For All Americans to Pay Federal Taxes

[Indeependent]

Yea deep into his first term. Insane you elected a man who we knew hired illegals. You ignored that. Then when the story was going to break, he let them all go. Too late you fool.

And I bet he has hired them back by now. How will I find out? The media will tell us. Will you believe them?

Are you retarded?
His manager hired them and Trump fired them.

 

[sealybobo]

How does he pay back his loans without income?

THINK silly bonobo.

I'm trying to find the article that explains it. He does something with his stocks. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Bottom line is how he pays himself allows him to pay really really really low taxes. If any at all.

Bezos can skip paying taxes on his accumulated wealth from the Amazon stock because stock gains aren't taxed until they are realized by selling off the stock: Since those stocks represent value, but cannot be used as tender, they aren't counted as "income" — even if they appreciate in value tremendously, like those of

How billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk avoid paying federal income tax while increasing their net worth by billions

American Billionaires are able to skip paying federal income taxes by reducing their income to zero, even as their net worth soars.

www.businessinsider.com

And don't call me stupid when it's the crazy tax scheme you and I both don't fully understand because we aren't rich enough to take advantage. You're a good lap dog or house slave to defend it.

 

[Indeependent]

I'm trying to find the article that explains it. He does something with his stocks. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Bottom line is how he pays himself allows him to pay really really really low taxes. If any at all.

Bezos can skip paying taxes on his accumulated wealth from the Amazon stock because stock gains aren't taxed until they are realized by selling off the stock: Since those stocks represent value, but cannot be used as tender, they aren't counted as "income" — even if they appreciate in value tremendously, like those of

How billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk avoid paying federal income tax while increasing their net worth by billions

American Billionaires are able to skip paying federal income taxes by reducing their income to zero, even as their net worth soars.

www.businessinsider.com

And don't call me stupid when it's the crazy tax scheme you and I both don't fully understand because we aren't rich enough to take advantage. You're a good lap dog or house slave to defend it.

What happens when a CEO sells too much stock?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm trying to find the article that explains it. He does something with his stocks. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Bottom line is how he pays himself allows him to pay really really really low taxes. If any at all.

Bezos can skip paying taxes on his accumulated wealth from the Amazon stock because stock gains aren't taxed until they are realized by selling off the stock: Since those stocks represent value, but cannot be used as tender, they aren't counted as "income" — even if they appreciate in value tremendously, like those of

How billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk avoid paying federal income tax while increasing their net worth by billions

American Billionaires are able to skip paying federal income taxes by reducing their income to zero, even as their net worth soars.

www.businessinsider.com

And don't call me stupid when it's the crazy tax scheme you and I both don't fully understand because we aren't rich enough to take advantage. You're a good lap dog or house slave to defend it.

Under flat taxes, income from ALL sources, dividends, capital gain, etc. is counted.

No loopholes.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you retarded?
His manager hired them and Trump fired them.

BULLSHIT! Remember, no matter what media you source, I'm going to say it's lying. So who are you believing Trump on this? You're a fool then.

We've all known for years how Trump hires illegals. Of course he doesn't interview them or check their papers personally. In fact, you are wrong about his manager hiring them. Trump hires a 3rd party company. An AMERICAN company. Who they hire isn't his responsibility. That's how he got away with it for years even well into his 1st and only term.

 

[Indeependent]

BULLSHIT! Remember, no matter what media you source, I'm going to say it's lying. So who are you believing Trump on this? You're a fool then.

We've all known for years how Trump hires illegals. Of course he doesn't interview them or check their papers personally. In fact, you are wrong about his manager hiring them. Trump hires a 3rd party company. An AMERICAN company. Who they hire isn't his responsibility. That's how he got away with it for years even well into his 1st and only term.

Trump was interviewed by 60 Minutes who researched and couldn't smear him with shit because he told the truth.

 

[sealybobo]

What happens when a CEO sells too much stock?

That's another subject. I'm just telling you how billionaires pay no federal income tax.

My brother makes $1 million dollars a year. Some years it's $800K if it's a bad year. But some years it's $1.2 million. It's never a $1 million dollar salary. We just say he makes a million a year.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yet rich people have been doing it since at least the 1970's. And they gained an ally when Reagan got elected. Several things happened.

A. Companies started hiring illegals and no punishment for doing it.
B. Sending jobs overseas. Bush 1 invented NAFTA.
C. Breaking unions
D. Reagan, Bush & Trump tax breaks redistributed wealth. Rolling them back would be redistribution? Then giving them was redistribution.

When they got those tax cuts, they came with cuts to social programs right? That's redistribution of wealth.

And it's not just corporations who hire illegals. Rich people like Trump hire illegals to work on their properties. Rather than pay Americans those high wages, the rich hire illegals. They say this costs the middle class billions of dollars every year. And it saves the rich billions of dollars every year. Wealth redistribution?

You just don't like it when the distribution doesn't go your way.

what unions got busted?....just asking...

 

[sealybobo]

Trump was interviewed by 60 Minutes who researched and couldn't smear him with shit because he told the truth.

I remember candidate Trump lied in his 60 minutes interview. Said he was going to raise taxes on rich people like himself. That sounded good to a lot of people who voted for him because of stuff like that. That was a lie.

Perhaps 60 minutes isn't liberal anymore? Ever consider that? You guys admit the media is lying all the time but it never dawns on you that the right wing media is lying too? Or that what might appear to be liberal isn't as liberal as you think?

 

[JGalt]

Taxation is theft.

 

[Indeependent]

I remember candidate Trump lied in his 60 minutes interview. Said he was going to raise taxes on rich people like himself. That sounded good to a lot of people who voted for him because of stuff like that. That was a lie.

Perhaps 60 minutes isn't liberal anymore? Ever consider that? You guys admit the media is lying all the time but it never dawns on you that the right wing media is lying too? Or that what might appear to be liberal isn't as liberal as you think?

You have a reputation for remembering what you want to remember.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yet rich people have been doing it since at least the 1970's. And they gained an ally when Reagan got elected. Several things happened.

A. Companies started hiring illegals and no punishment for doing it.
B. Sending jobs overseas. Bush 1 invented NAFTA.
C. Breaking unions
D. Reagan, Bush & Trump tax breaks redistributed wealth. Rolling them back would be redistribution? Then giving them was redistribution.

When they got those tax cuts, they came with cuts to social programs right? That's redistribution of wealth.

And it's not just corporations who hire illegals. Rich people like Trump hire illegals to work on their properties. Rather than pay Americans those high wages, the rich hire illegals. They say this costs the middle class billions of dollars every year. And it saves the rich billions of dollars every year. Wealth redistribution?

You just don't like it when the distribution doesn't go your way.

Companies hiring illegals has you pissed?
One of Biden’s first actions was to order the DHS to not go after companies hiring illegals.
So why do you support Brandon?

 

[Indeependent]

I remember candidate Trump lied in his 60 minutes interview. Said he was going to raise taxes on rich people like himself. That sounded good to a lot of people who voted for him because of stuff like that. That was a lie.

Perhaps 60 minutes isn't liberal anymore? Ever consider that? You guys admit the media is lying all the time but it never dawns on you that the right wing media is lying too? Or that what might appear to be liberal isn't as liberal as you think?

That's why I go to AP News and Reuters, or are you too numbed out on liquor to remember that fact?

 

[Weatherman2020]

a straight 15% for everyone is the most fair, no deductions

Whatever the percentage, people can debate that until the end of time. As long as everyone pays some percentage.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I’ve always advocated that all Americans must pay Federal taxes. Every American has a vested interest in our nation, there’s zero reason no American should not take part in that process of keeping our nation going.

Even if it’s 0.01% of their income, it’s an active participation role.

MSN

If they have some skin in the game, they are less likely to want all the commie socialist bullshit.

One with no skin in the game has no interest in being fiscally responsible.

 

[sealybobo]

Companies hiring illegals has you pissed?
One of Biden’s first actions was to order the DHS to not go after companies hiring illegals.
So why do you support Brandon?

Because he will go after the illegal employers. They are the traitors. Going after the illegal workers is like playing wack a mole if you don't go after the illegal employers.

And if hiring illegals pisses you off, why did you vote for Bush in 2004?

"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

The hiring crimes of Illegal Employers are being ignored by the law, and rewarded by the economic systems of the nation.

Thom Hartmann: 'It's an Illegal Employer Problem'

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase 'Illegal Immigration' they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an 'Illegal Immigration' problem in America. We have an 'Illegal ...

www.scoop.co.nz

So compare the Clinton Administration's numbers in 1999 to Bush's numbers. Clearly it was Bush who turned a blind eye to illegal workers and illegal employers.

Bush loved immigrants so much he not only turned a blind eye to illegal ones, he wrote a book about them.

Out of Many, One by President George W. Bush

www.bushcenter.org

 

[francoHFW]

This gives the poor a great reason to vote. I love it. Make this a midterm issue. See if America is finally ready for a flat tax. Why not? I mean we don't know because it's never been tried but there's always a first time for everything.

Some drawbacks of a flat tax rate system include lack of wealth redistribution, the added burden on middle and lower-income families, and tax rate wars with neighboring countries.

Everyone who makes any money pays about 27% in all taxes on average. That is a huge giveaway to the rich and why we have the worst inequality and upward mobility ever and anywhere period of course everybody pays federal taxes already, the payroll tax is now just about the same amount as federal income taxes which is the only thing brainwashed functional moron GOP base voters can think about nowadays... Of course the flat tax system has been tried many times and it always is a huge injustice to everyone but the mega rich. Change the channel and try reality super duper...

 

[22lcidw]

Yet rich people have been doing it since at least the 1970's. And they gained an ally when Reagan got elected. Several things happened.

A. Companies started hiring illegals and no punishment for doing it.
B. Sending jobs overseas. Bush 1 invented NAFTA.
C. Breaking unions
D. Reagan, Bush & Trump tax breaks redistributed wealth. Rolling them back would be redistribution? Then giving them was redistribution.

When they got those tax cuts, they came with cuts to social programs right? That's redistribution of wealth.

And it's not just corporations who hire illegals. Rich people like Trump hire illegals to work on their properties. Rather than pay Americans those high wages, the rich hire illegals. They say this costs the middle class billions of dollars every year. And it saves the rich billions of dollars every year. Wealth redistribution?

You just don't like it when the distribution doesn't go your way.

You are just looking at the Federal Level. The State, City, County and Regional Levels in many areas has mushroomed much more than the Feds in percentages from back then.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Because he will go after the illegal employers. They are the traitors. Going after the illegal workers is like playing wack a mole if you don't go after the illegal employers.

And if hiring illegals pisses you off, why did you vote for Bush in 2004?

"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

The hiring crimes of Illegal Employers are being ignored by the law, and rewarded by the economic systems of the nation.

Thom Hartmann: 'It's an Illegal Employer Problem'

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase 'Illegal Immigration' they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames. The reality is that we don't have an 'Illegal Immigration' problem in America. We have an 'Illegal ...

www.scoop.co.nz

So compare the Clinton Administration's numbers in 1999 to Bush's numbers. Clearly it was Bush who turned a blind eye to illegal workers and illegal employers.

Bush loved immigrants so much he not only turned a blind eye to illegal ones, he wrote a book about them.

Out of Many, One by President George W. Bush

www.bushcenter.org

He's a traitor.

It should be a felony with a sentence of no less that than 10 years to employ illegals. And no plausible deniability.

 

[Delldude]

I’ve always advocated that all Americans must pay Federal taxes. Every American has a vested interest in our nation, there’s zero reason no American should not take part in that process of keeping our nation going.

Even if it’s 0.01% of their income, it’s an active participation role.

MSN

Funny the WH transposes 'everyone' paying taxes into a tax increase for all Americans.
The people who wrote the complex tax codes to avoid paying taxes, now whining about having to possibly pay.
It doesn't get any better than this.