Petition to Put an End to Teachers' Unions in Public Education!

[SAT]

What he said. Teachers aren't responsible for buying every kid crayons.

A poster refuted it.

You missed it.

He pointed out that it's more expensive to run a school in some parts of the nation.

You mean in Cleveland OH?

Please read the posts in this thread. On this page.

 

[CentristFiasco]

Why are you guys still posting?

 

[The T]

Why are you guys still posting?

Some aren't satisfied with thier own stupidity...so they have to one-up themselves. It's common around here.

 

[Chris]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

 

[The T]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

 

[Chris]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

How is the education system in Texas doing?

 

[The T]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

How is the education system in Texas doing?

Don't KNOW...Don't Care. Texas is a STATE with thier OWN set of rules.

Get it ACE?

 

[Olivia]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

Why that option or lack of, why not fix the problem with union teachers? Do you think non union teachers is the solution to our academic challenges?

 

[The T]

The best school system in the world, Finland, is 100% unionized.

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

Why that option or lack of, why not fix the problem with union teachers? Do you think non union teachers is the solution to our academic challenges?

UNIONS are the problem. It becomes a matter of them, their tenure, instead of educating young people to become productive citizens.

I'd like to see UNIONS abolished...OUTLAWED.

 

[CT9]

Petition Text: In the Spirit of Democracy, Independence and Authentic Progressivism, the People of the United States remain to be skeptical on America's Future. There have been program initiatives for many years to better our children's circumstances from the tyranny of the Teachers' Unions. In all disrespect, We the People are frustrated with these program initiatives because quite frankly, they do not work. There have been an increase of funding towards this system but it failed to improve our circumstance as well, this is due to the nature of the contracts by the Teachers' Unions. Greed. We the People hereby petition the Obama Administration to take full initiative in eliminating such unions from this public service, namely "Public Education".

Sign the Petition: http://wh.gov/Tu2

Why?

1. Public Education is a Public Service Career.
2. Public Education Receives Thousands to Millions of Dollars on a Monthly Basis.
3. Program Initiatives like "Race to the Top" or "No Child Left Behind" Don't Work.
4. Teachers' Benefits are Extraodinary Because It's State (Federal) Owned.

Sources:

True Costs of Public Education (From YouTube)
True Costs of Public Education (From Washington Post)

How a Dozen Multinational Corporations Spent a Billion Dollars on Lobbying and Campaign Contributions and Avoided Paying Taxes

Twelve large American corporations have been identified by news reports, nonprofit organizations, and elected officials as paying little or no federal income taxes. Collectively, these one dozen corporate tax dodgers have benefited dramatically – in tax loopholes, bailouts, and subsidies – from the more than $1 billion dollars they have invested into influencing Washington. As Americans pay their taxes this month, it is important to understand that our political system lets these corporations off the hook while the rest of us foot the bill .....

Quick Facts on General Electric

Campaign Contributions: Total Over 10 Years (2001-2010), $13 million

Lobbying Expenditures: Total Over 10 Years (2001-2010), $205 million

Government Contracts: $3.9 billion in 2008; $24 billion from 2000-2008

Taxes Paid in the Last 5 Years: $0

Profits Over Last 5 Years: $26 billion

Tax Refund for Last 5 Years: $4.1 billion

The Artful Dodgers: Telecommunications and Technology | Public Campaign

Rumor has it that unlike many of the multinational corporations and millionaire executives that bankroll the Republican/Tea Party, America's teachers actually pay taxes.

Not only do America's teachers pay taxes, they don't receive any bonuses - unlike the millions/billions in bonuses that these tax-avoiding coorporations manage to give their executives.

It was the greed of these same bankers and executives, not America's unionized teachers, that triggered the financial meltdown from which the nation has yet to recover.

These 12 co-orprations are:
- ExxonMobil
- Chevron
- ConocoPhillips
- Valero
- Bank of america
- Citigroup
- Goldman Sachs
- Boeing
- FedEx
- CarnivalCruises
- Verizon
- General Electric

This isn't about the economic meltdown moron

Nobody blamed teachers, you'd have to be as dumb as someone who would make that accusation to infer that.

 

[Olivia]

And 100% Socialist.

WE aren't Finland...and have NO intent on becoming them or anyone else.

Get it Statist boy?

Why that option or lack of, why not fix the problem with union teachers? Do you think non union teachers is the solution to our academic challenges?

UNIONS are the problem. It becomes a matter of them, their tenure, instead of educating young people to becokme productive citizens.

I'd like to see UNIONS abolished...OUTLAWED.

Union members are tax paying citizens and for the most part good people, maybe you mean Union heads? I am not Union, but I could careless what contract an individual makes with their own employer, just like I hope None cares what mine is.

That being said I understand your point as far as education, that I hope you want the best for your kids as I for mine. I am not sure that abolishing the Union will give you that guarantee, though. So again why abolish the Unions and what will that solve? Or, do you want a solution to what we have in place already?

Or, when you say abolish Unions that you want all teachers unemployed? Fresh start?

 

[The T]

Why that option or lack of, why not fix the problem with union teachers? Do you think non union teachers is the solution to our academic challenges?

UNIONS are the problem. It becomes a matter of them, their tenure, instead of educating young people to becokme productive citizens.

I'd like to see UNIONS abolished...OUTLAWED.

Union members are tax paying citizens and for the most part good people, maybe you mean Union heads? I am not Union, but I could careless what contract an individual makes with their own employer, just like I hope None cares what mine is.

That being said I understand your point as far as education, that I hope you want the best for your kids as I for mine. I am not sure that abolishing the Union will give you that guarantee, though. So again why abolish the Unions and what will that solve? Or, do you want a solution to what we have in place already?

Or, when you say abolish Unions that you want all teachers unemployed? Fresh start?

And they get taxed MORE by being forced to pay dues in non-right-to-work States...and thier money is laundered to go to politicians...and the Union Leadership for THIER power...

I loathe them. Don't fall into the trap.

There are work rules and laws in place. Unions have outlived thier usefulness and become what they rallied against in thier early years. THEY have become part of the problem.

And by the way? THEY are Corporations unto themselves...

Thier product is LABOR...

If YOU can't get along on your merits, and command a salary in the marketplace without a third party speaking for you? What GOOD are you?

You have become a prostitute. And YOU aren't calling the shots for yourself.

 

[Olivia]

UNIONS are the problem. It becomes a matter of them, their tenure, instead of educating young people to becokme productive citizens.

I'd like to see UNIONS abolished...OUTLAWED.

Union members are tax paying citizens and for the most part good people, maybe you mean Union heads? I am not Union, but I could careless what contract an individual makes with their own employer, just like I hope None cares what mine is.

That being said I understand your point as far as education, that I hope you want the best for your kids as I for mine. I am not sure that abolishing the Union will give you that guarantee, though. So again why abolish the Unions and what will that solve? Or, do you want a solution to what we have in place already?

Or, when you say abolish Unions that you want all teachers unemployed? Fresh start?

And they get taxed MORE by being forced to pay dues in non-right-to-work States...and thier money is laundered to go to politicians...and the Union Leadership for THIER power...

I loathe them. Don't fall into the trap.

There are work rules and laws in place. Unions have outlived thier usefulness and become what they rallied against in thier early years. THEY have become part of the problem.

And by the way? THEY are Corporations unto themselves...

Thier product is LABOR...

If YOU can't get along on your merits, and command a salary in the marketplace without a third party speaking for you? What GOOD are you?

You have become a prostitute. And YOU aren't calling the shots for yourself.

Is that any different then working for a big corporation, the Military, and any special interest group? I take note that you loathe them and that's enough for you, I just don't see why or you haven't convinced me why. I think you should appreciate a hard working class adding to Fed Reserve verses being on Welfare soaking it up. I am sure you have your reasons, I just don't know what they are or how to make sense of it.

Union and ALL jobs are a choice, if you don't like them, simple don't work for a Unionized company. Myself with our Country in the financial abyss we are in, I'll appreciate any tax paying worker.

 

[initforme]

Unions are going to be a thing of the past. The US is changing and the middle class is going to shrink. There is nothing than can be done about it. Try that one on. Call me ANTI AMERICAN, I DARE YOU!

 

[Olivia]

Unions are going to be a thing of the past. The US is changing and the middle class is going to shrink. There is nothing than can be done about it. Try that one on. Call me ANTI AMERICAN, I DARE YOU!

What unions? private or government? When will this happen? and why would I call you anti American for your opinion?

The middle class already shrunk {is that a word}.

 

[initforme]

Dont get me wrong here. One poster said he loathes unions. I can use that word also. This is a fact. The GOP loathes the middle class. Try to argue this one. Cant, can you? SPineless cowards.

 

[Olivia]

Dont get me wrong here. One poster said he loathes unions. I can use that word also. This is a fact. The GOP loathes the middle class. Try to argue this one. Cant, can you? SPineless cowards.

? is that to me? or your response to me?

 

[The T]

Dont get me wrong here. One poster said he loathes unions. I can use that word also. This is a fact. The GOP loathes the middle class. Try to argue this one. Cant, can you? SPineless cowards.

NO. They loathe those that seek to limit freedom/liberty by thier actions that cause the so-called middle class to suffer.

There ARE no classes. You're an American limited only by your imagination...and those that seek to squelch it...

Get your facts straight.

 

[The T]

Union members are tax paying citizens and for the most part good people, maybe you mean Union heads? I am not Union, but I could careless what contract an individual makes with their own employer, just like I hope None cares what mine is.

That being said I understand your point as far as education, that I hope you want the best for your kids as I for mine. I am not sure that abolishing the Union will give you that guarantee, though. So again why abolish the Unions and what will that solve? Or, do you want a solution to what we have in place already?

Or, when you say abolish Unions that you want all teachers unemployed? Fresh start?

And they get taxed MORE by being forced to pay dues in non-right-to-work States...and thier money is laundered to go to politicians...and the Union Leadership for THIER power...

I loathe them. Don't fall into the trap.

There are work rules and laws in place. Unions have outlived thier usefulness and become what they rallied against in thier early years. THEY have become part of the problem.

And by the way? THEY are Corporations unto themselves...

Thier product is LABOR...

If YOU can't get along on your merits, and command a salary in the marketplace without a third party speaking for you? What GOOD are you?

You have become a prostitute. And YOU aren't calling the shots for yourself.

Is that any different then working for a big corporation, the Military, and any special interest group? I take note that you loathe them and that's enough for you, I just don't see why or you haven't convinced me why. I think you should appreciate a hard working class adding to Fed Reserve verses being on Welfare soaking it up. I am sure you have your reasons, I just don't know what they are or how to make sense of it.

Union and ALL jobs are a choice, if you don't like them, simple don't work for a Unionized company. Myself with our Country in the financial abyss we are in, I'll appreciate any tax paying worker.

Military isn't UNIONIZED.

Infact? I think it's a crime to have Government workers in a UNION. Even FDR said as much.

 

[initforme]

Nope, after 74 years on this earth and spending 30 years as a slave in corporate america I have learned there is WITHOUT A DOUBT CLASSES. I am a middle class american. I will die one. I have not taken a dollar of unemployment or handouts. I do take SS which I have paid into. My fellow americans are middle classers. This you are limited by your imagination sounds like the same BS GARBAGE as the AMERICAN DREAM that we so often heard about in school. What a crock of BS that was.