Pete Buttigieg is running for President in 2028!!!!

[Harry Dresden]

I don't generalize. I know America, you fantasize about an America that doesn't exist while living in another country, and you don't even have the affairs of your own county ight.

Jussie Smolette was popular as an actor. Not a politician. I on't suggest blacks are homphobic, I do suggest that Buttigieg's policies made while mayor were detrimental to black people in his city. I can complain about racism when there are gay white men who are racist. You really need to stay out of American political discussions.

You need to shut the hell up. I know what Republicans will do if Buttigieg is the nominee, and you will do it with them.

you do the same thing here.....you talk about other states that you know nothing about...

 

[westwall]

Why do you support a pedophile? I focus on what Republicans will use to discount him and run another culture war campaign to motivate the same bigotry that allowed Trump to become president. I also focus on what the so-called independents will consider a "woke" candidate. I also know that due to his policies as a mayor, he is going to have a very hard time getting the vote from blacks. And there is a real moral component to this, even though we have elected fonicators and adulterers to the office, so his sexuality may not be all that important.

Biden's no longer president. He's the only pedo I know that was ever pres.

You know....YOUR guy.

 

[dblack]

Wrong, because I've said that myself. Now I know you guys on the right would love to see Buttigieg nominated, but the truth is, if a black or white woman can't win, a gay man can't win for the very same reasons. The culture war propaganda will be used on him, and it will be brutal. If it came down to Buttigieg, Vance, Rubio, or any MAGAT Republican, I will vote for Buttigieg.

Me too. But there are always other choices.

I'm any case, I'll vote for the candidate who makes the best appeal to consensus, and isn't just trying to score points for their party. If that's Buttigieg, he'll get my vote. If not, he won't.

 

[there4eyeM]

The only reason that Harris got more votes than from her family is that she was running against Trump. The only reason Trump won is that he was running against Harris. One third of the electorate voted like automatons for their half of the duopoly, another third for theirs, and the rest of the electorate elected to vote "neither" by not even voting. Two off-setting nullities delivered us this situation. Thank you, again, duopoly!

 

[Montrovant]

There is no duopoly, and when you can find a candidate from a third party that makes sense, let us know. If Buttigieg enters the race, he will be in the primaries, and I really don't think he can beat Harris. People want to tell us how Harris doesn't stand a chance, but he lost by 1.5 percent. She was nearly the president, which means she has a very strong chance, the strongest chance of any Democrat to win in 2028.

She may have lost by 1.5% of the popular vote, but it was far more of the Electoral College, which is what truly matters.
Additionally, few people have won the presidency after losing a previous presidential election; I believe only Trump, Nixon, and Cleveland have done so, with both Trump and Cleveland having been president before losing a presidential election.

So, while certainly not impossible, the odds seem stacked against Harris winning a presidential election.

And have you never seen a third party candidate that you would consider a better option than Trump?

 

[IM2]

She may have lost by 1.5% of the popular vote, but it was far more of the Electoral College, which is what truly matters.
Additionally, few people have won the presidency after losing a previous presidential election; I believe only Trump, Nixon, and Cleveland have done so, with both Trump and Cleveland having been president before losing a presidential election.

So, while certainly not impossible, the odds seem stacked against Harris winning a presidential election.

And have you never seen a third party candidate that you would consider a better option than Trump?

No, it isn't. Only 5 out of 56 presidential elections have been won by the person who got the fewest popular votes. The only reason the odds are against Harris is the same reason why Trump is president now. Whites. Take away the white vote, Trump is not president. If 51 percent of whites had voted for Trump, Harris would have won. Instead, nearly 60 percent of the whites who voted, voted for racism, and it is that same racism that has whites talking about how Harris doesn't have a chance.

 

[Montrovant]

No, it isn't. Only 5 out of 56 presidential elections have been won by the person who got the fewest popular votes. The only reason the odds are against Harris is the same reason why Trump is president now. Whites. Take away the white vote, Trump is not president. If 51 percent of whites had voted for Trump, Harris would have won. Instead, nearly 60 percent of the whites who voted, voted for racism, and it is that same racism that has whites talking about how Harris doesn't have a chance.

Take away the white vote? That’s a pointless statement. Whites are still the majority in this country, so of course how whites vote will have a large effect on elections.

While racism certainly may play a part in why dome don’t think Harris has a chance, it’s not the only possible reason.

And while Harris, assuming she were to get the Democratic nomination (not at all a certain thing), would definitely have a chance to win the presidency, that doesn’t mean it would necessarily be a good chance. It’s hard to predict with much accuracy considering how far away the next election is. If the Republican candidate isn’t horrible, and if the Trump administration doesn’t make things so bad that any Republican candidate is tainted by it, I don’t look at Harris as a great candidate for Democrats. She wasn’t particularly popular in trying to get the 2020 nomination, she wasn’t all that popular in 2024 (although to be fair, the party stuck her in a bad situation with the way they handled Biden’s candidacy), so I don’t know why I’d expect her to be popular in 2028.

Again, it’s possible she could win simply by being the Dem candidate if the Trump administration fosters enough ill will in the electorate, like in 2020. I just don’t think Harris’s political history supports the idea that she is an especially popular candidate.

 

[Hollie]

He won't be the nominee.

If Democrats nominate him, JD Vance will be President. Just because you're gay doesn't make a gay man a good candidate.

Actually, Pete’s gayness is an identity that’s crucial for democrats.

 

[Hollie]

No, it isn't. Only 5 out of 56 presidential elections have been won by the person who got the fewest popular votes. The only reason the odds are against Harris is the same reason why Trump is president now. Whites. Take away the white vote, Trump is not president. If 51 percent of whites had voted for Trump, Harris would have won. Instead, nearly 60 percent of the whites who voted, voted for racism, and it is that same racism that has whites talking about how Harris doesn't have a chance.

The only “qualification” that Cackles has is her faux blackness as far as democrats are concerned.

 

[IM2]

Take away the white vote? That’s a pointless statement. Whites are still the majority in this country, so of course how whites vote will have a large effect on elections.

While racism certainly may play a part in why dome don’t think Harris has a chance, it’s not the only possible reason.

And while Harris, assuming she were to get the Democratic nomination (not at all a certain thing), would definitely have a chance to win the presidency, that doesn’t mean it would necessarily be a good chance. It’s hard to predict with much accuracy considering how far away the next election is. If the Republican candidate isn’t horrible, and if the Trump administration doesn’t make things so bad that any Republican candidate is tainted by it, I don’t look at Harris as a great candidate for Democrats. She wasn’t particularly popular in trying to get the 2020 nomination, she wasn’t all that popular in 2024 (although to be fair, the party stuck her in a bad situation with the way they handled Biden’s candidacy), so I don’t know why I’d expect her to be popular in 2028.

Again, it’s possible she could win simply by being the Dem candidate if the Trump administration fosters enough ill will in the electorate, like in 2020. I just don’t think Harris’s political history supports the idea that she is an especially popular candidate.

My point is that every other group voted in the majority for Harris. Whites voted for Trump racism. White women voted for a party that took away their right to decide what to do with their bodies, and an openly misogynistic candidate. You guys keep talking about 2020, but in 2024, Harris was the vice president, not a first-term senator. I mean, Trump was run out trying to run as a third-party candidate, and he is now in his second presidency. Reagan lost in the primaries 2 or 3 times before he got nominated and won two elections. Stop talking about Harris and 2020, and stop putting standards on Harris that are not placed on anyone else.

 

[Montrovant]

My point is that every other group voted in the majority for Harris. Whites voted for Trump racism. White women voted for a party that took away their right to decide what to do with their bodies, and an openly misogynistic candidate. You guys keep talking about 2020, but in 2024, Harris was the vice president, not a first-term senator. I mean, Trump was run out trying to run as a third-party candidate, and he is now in his second presidency. Reagan lost in the primaries 2 or 3 times before he got nominated and won two elections. Stop talking about Harris and 2020, and stop putting standards on Harris that are not placed on anyone else.

Reagan didn’t lose in presidential elections, though. That’s a big difference.

And why should anyone stop talking about 2020? It’s not the only thing to consider, but it’s still relevant information.

Did Harris win by a large margin with all non-white racial groups? I haven’t seen a breakdown of that sort.

 

[IM2]

Reagan didn’t lose in presidential elections, though. That’s a big difference.

And why should anyone stop talking about 2020? It’s not the only thing to consider, but it’s still relevant information.

Did Harris win by a large margin with all non-white racial groups? I haven’t seen a breakdown of that sort.

Reagan lost in several primaries until he wa finally nominated.

Trump ran in an electin an lost. Now he is president after running again. Harris predicted everything Trump would do, and if people had read her plan, they would realize the huge mistake that was made. If she runs with the same plan, she can win.

Harris got 86 percent of the black vote, 55 percent of the Asian vote, 51 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 57 percent of the Native American vote.

 

[egp320i]

I didn't ask if they would be candidates you support, I asked if you would consider them to be well experienced for the position of president.

Do you think Trump was known for being a good employer, paying high wages, creating good working conditions for employees of his businesses?
Have you seen how much money Trump and his family have made during this second term as president?

Maybe the issue isn't experience. It's ok if you prefer the ideals and policies of Trump, but for some reason you chose to make it about experience.

I mentioned why they might not be even though gates knows how to run a business
it's a shady business that forces you spend money, that is called socialism
want your program you bought to keep working, pay us

I don't want my government to operate like that

What has buttplug done? besides screams he's gay and show us wearing fake tits, go.......

 

[frigidweirdo]

There is no duopoly, and when you can find a candidate from a third party that makes sense, let us know. If Buttigieg enters the race, he will be in the primaries, and I really don't think he can beat Harris. People want to tell us how Harris doesn't stand a chance, but he lost by 1.5 percent. She was nearly the president, which means she has a very strong chance, the strongest chance of any Democrat to win in 2028.

Of course there is a duopoly.

Doesn't matter if a third party person makes sense. People still won't vote for them.

 

[skye]

 

[IM2]

Of course there is a duopoly.

Doesn't matter if a third party person makes sense. People still won't vote for them.

If you can't see that there is a difference, you are blind. There is no duopoly, and when a third-party candidate makes sense, I will vote for them. I've done it before. I voted for John Anderson in 1980, and I really considered voting for Nader in 2004. This belief in a duopoly is why Trump is president. People figured that Harris would just bad as Trump, and that was really stupid.

 

[cnm]

He won't be the nominee.

If Democrats nominate him, JD Vance will be President. Just because you're gay doesn't make a gay man a good candidate.

You think he's not competent? I haven't seen it displayed...

 

[cnm]

There is no duopoly, and when a third-party candidate makes sense, I will vote for them.

A third party candidate without party support will make sense when hell freezes over.

 

[IM2]

A third party candidate without party support will make sense when hell freezes over.

Ralph Nader made sense. Bernie Sanders made sense. But in both cases they did not make moe ene then the Democrat. Ros Periacl.ot mae sense, but he quit mi cmpaign then tied coming back.

You think he's not competent? I haven't seen it displayed...

Buttigieg's record as Mayor of South Bend is problemmatic.

 

[cnm]

Ralph Nader made sense. Bernie Sanders made sense. But in both cases they did not make moe ene then the Democrat. Ros Periacl.ot mae sense, but he quit mi cmpaign then tied coming back.


Buttigieg's record as Mayor of South Bend is problemmatic.

Wishful sense, perhaps. The US system does not appear to me to be able to accommodate a POTUS without a states wide footprint.

Buttigieg fighting with police seems more a Blue Wall dogfight. I can't give US police any validity. His Housing could have been done better.