Perhaps the best test of alternate realities - clear video of the shooting

[Mac1958]

JFC it’s all over this website

No, that's the guy at the door, on the side of the vehicle. With the cell phone IN HIS HAND.

The shooter is in front of the vehicle with BOTH HANDS on his gun.

Which is perfectly clear in the video I posted.

That's fine. I believe that you believe what you're saying.

 

[beagle9]

That's the same video I provided. Please describe the "contact".

And by the way, in my reality, I can see the vehicle turning to the right before the shots.

The body cam footage says it all. This is a failed OP-ED.

It matters not what she was doing, but that she made contact with an officer while attempting to flee the scene with her vehicle. It was unfortunate for her that she struck the officer and made him feel that she was a danger to not only him but to the public at large, so he had to do what he felt he had to do.

The blame for it all lay on these local government city officials who have fanned the flames of this anti-police rhetoric, and have actively done so to the point of mayhem and chaos erupting on the streets of our major cities in America.

A complete take over and lock down by the federal government is now warranted in these blue cities that are out of control. The arrest of the radicalized official's should come next.

 

[Mac1958]

So the point of the thread is proven once again.

MAGA sees one thing, the rest of the country -- centrists, independents, lefties, some conservatives -- sees another.

As usual.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

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You and mainstream media.





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I don't talk to you, so you're lying. You follow me around and have to "funny" or "fake news" all of my comments, so again you're lying because I don't usually address you personally except for the few times I made the mistake of trying to assist you.

So stop making a bigger ass of yourself than necessary.

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[OODA_Loop]

No, that's the guy at the door, on the side of the vehicle. With the cell phone IN HIS HAND.

The shooter is in front of the vehicle with BOTH HANDS on his gun.

Which is perfectly clear in the video I posted.

That's fine. I believe that you believe what you're saying.

No it isnt. But you know that. You have been challenged on the same assertion earlier in this thread and bolted.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I don't talk to you, so you're lying. You follow me around and have to "funny" or "fake news" all of my comments, so again you're lying because I don't usually address you personally except for the few times I made the mistake of trying to assist you.

So stop making a bigger ass of yourself than necessary.

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Cute post.

Thanks for being triggered. It's fun for us.






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[beagle9]

Yes, I know. I asked Grok for that clip and it provided it for me. Then later said it was from another incident, in 2025. But I know Grok can be wrong. In any event, to me it's clear that he was trying to stop her by positioning himself there, and they had already escalated the situation unnecessarily. As the video I posted in post 2 explains.

Why are you determined to take a leftist stand on this matter (ignoring the facts), but yet you claim that you are not a leftist ???? I say you are a leftist by your actions in your word's written.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And BTW - the video you won't see the left show.
It is a video from the - FRONT - of the SUV. And it - CLEARLY - shows that the agent was hit by her truck.

Video shows Minneapolis ICE shooting that left woman dead

An ICE agent is claiming self-defense after shooting and killing a woman in Minneapolis. Eyewitnesses tell a different story.

www.fox5atlanta.com

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

JFC it’s all over this website

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This is the best video. The vocalization of Ross and the THUD sound prove it.

Here's the best visual presentation of his attempt to get out of the path of the vehicle, which hits him anyway. He steps back two steps and she still plows into him.

 

[beagle9]

She turned her wheel and and the tires were going to the right, if she was purposely trying to hit him she would have gone straight or to the left. And yeah he was trying to stop her from leaving... that's why he positioned himself in front of her vehicle. But he didn't have to shoot her in the face, he saw her in advance and he could have simply got out of the way. Fleeing is not a capital offense.

So you think that within in a split second this officer in question was taking note that her wheels were pointing in a direction that should have told him that she wasn't intentionally trying to hit him, but instead she was just trying to flee the scene ??? The vehicle hit him, and he wasn't looking to see which way her wheels were turning in order to understand that she may have hit him by accident. He responded with his training in the incident, and that was unfortunate for her after doing something terribly stupid.

 

[task0778]

I've seen several videos of the shooting, and I do not believe the shooter's life was in danger and the shooting was not justified. He was hit by the car but once he got free he was not in mortal danger and therefore should not have shot the driver. For sure that woman deserved to be arrested and charged with several crimes; it's not like they didn't know who she was. They can always go find here later and arrest her.

 

[Mac1958]

He was hit by the car but once he got free he was not in mortal danger and therefore should not have shot the driver.

So you looked at this video (shooting at :09) and concluded that he was hit by the car, and had to "get free"?

 

[DonGlock26]

He was hit by the car

Stop. That's a deadly force assault on a law enforcement officer.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Stop. That's a deadly force assault on a law enforcement officer.

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It will eventually come to light, as did Rittenhouse's innocence.

Our country will come back to common sense.

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[Mac1958]

Many thanks to Dorian Mode, who admitted in post 685 here, that the shooter was not hit by the car.

He then does the regular deflection stuff and tries to change the subject and put me on the defensive, which is fine, but at least he was honest about my actual point.

Good stuff.

I see one officer on the side of the driver's door and another right in front of the car facing the driver. That officer was able to step to his right and not get hit by the front of the car. Ask yourself, if he didn't move would he have been struck by the car? Anyway, all the analysis done so far does not qualify the driver as a saint and worthy of being a martyr, no matter how hard you morons try to twist this up. Might I suggest you go to the next ICE protest and do way better to convince the agents to use deadly force without obviously instigating the incident? Think about it Mac, you might get a statue built in your honor.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Have you ever had someone tell you what you are going to see before you actually saw it so that their prompting set the stage for you to look for what they said is there even if you don't actually see it with your own eyes?

How about this. Imagine I tell you that there was a train derailment in Montana and I provide you with the link. You click on the link and see this:

 

[beagle9]

I've seen several videos of the shooting, and I do not believe the shooter's life was in danger and the shooting was not justified. He was hit by the car but once he got free he was not in mortal danger and therefore should not have shot the driver. For sure that woman deserved to be arrested and charged with several crimes; it's not like they didn't know who she was. They can always go find here later and arrest her.

He used his training and that was unfortunate for her, and your opinion is yet another opinion that goes along with the leftist Biden saying "hey why can't you just shoot them in the leg", otherwise having no clue as to how year's of data shows police organizations exactly what type of training and measures to take in their training when certain situations arise.

I have seen politician's have to change their minds and positions held when put into officer training scenarios that proved to them that they have no clue as to what they thought they knew or it outed them for how corrupt and evil they are when spewing lies constantly against good law enforcement.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Many thanks to Dorian Mode, who admitted in post 685 here, that the shooter was not hit by the car.

He then does the regular deflection stuff and tries to change the subject and put me on the defensive, which is fine, but at least he was honest about my actual point.

Good stuff.

Dorian Mode is Mac1958.

 

[task0778]

So you looked at this video (shooting at :09) and concluded that he was hit by the car, and had to "get free"?

I think that video is somewhat inconclusive. If he was hit, it wasn't much more than a brush and if he was drug it wasn't for more than a second, which IMHO is possible. But that does not mean he was in mortal danger and had to defend himself; it looks like the car was no longer a threat to him by the time he opens fire and so I think the shooting was not justified. You can see the wheels turning to the right and away from the shooter.