Perhaps the best test of alternate realities - clear video of the shooting

[buttercup]

wasn't paying alot of attention to the direction of her wheels......thanks, that makes all the difference. It's not like she was driving around the other car or anything.

it's obvious you're gonna stick by her side thru thick and thin cause she's innocent and the cop is the bad guy with no indication of WHY


Mandela effect.

I never said she was innocent. I'm not condoning her fleeing. But as I said on another thread, maybe because she was familiar with their horrible track record, she probably didn't want to get beaten, or pepper-sprayed, or worse... so she chose to leave. But again, fleeing is not a capital offense.

 

[Mac1958]

Here's the clip from the different angle I was talking about that was going around.... Too bad someone added loud music to it.... And it's also sped up.


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^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

This is crazy. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this.

Yeah, that's not what happened.

 

[buttercup]

Yeah, that's not what happened.

Are you saying you agree with what Grok later said... that it's from a different incident?

 

[Mac1958]

The video in the OP is plenty clear enough.

It's just being viewed from two entirely different realities. Not just perspectives, but realities.

The fact that this country now has two different realities is killing us.

 

[Mac1958]

Are you saying you agree with what Grok later said... that it's from a different incident?

Yes. Either that, or the video I provided is not real. The two can't exist in the same universe.

 

[buttercup]

Yes. Either that, or the video I provided is not real. The two can't exist in the same universe.

I have to say... it does look very different in that clip. And in the background there's a person with white pants on walking in a strange way...which I don't see in the main clip. (I'll have to look again when I have more time.)

I have to go now, but it is very weird. So I'd like to get to the bottom of it... maybe there's another angle I haven't seen yet that syncs with that one that shows that strange person walking by.

I hope you don't mind me posting this vid below in your thread. But I agree with what this person said....accountability is essential, or else everything will get worse.

This is hard to watch:

 

[Mac1958]

I have to say... it does very different in that clip. And in the background there's a person with white pants on walking in a strange way...which I don't see in the main clip. (I'll have to look again when I have more time)

I have to go now, but it is very weird. So I'd like to get to the bottom of it... maybe there's another angle I haven't seen yet that syncs with that one that shows that strange person walking by.

I hope you don't mind me posting this in your thread. But I agree with what this person said....accountability is essential, or else everything will get worse.

This is hard to watch:

I appreciate your posts, thanks.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

I've watched a bunch of videos of the incident including one in which multiple vantage points are synchronized by time and then they all run as if a single video. But out of all of the ones I've viewed it was the one which was showing the ICE agent's feet in the video and they appear to have been, at all times, to the side of the vehicle, not directly in front of it, at least not when Good began to allow her vehicle to move forward.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to discover that her vehicle did make contact with him but not in the sense of running him over. The vehicle may have bumped him or shoved him out of the way, but it wasn't enough of a shove that he was not able to remain on his feet and fire 3 rounds at pretty much point blank range (shots 2 & 3).

The problem as I see it, other than he never should have fired to begin with, is that even if they rule that he was allowed to shoot to defend himself when he was positioned allegedly in front of the vehicle, he was no longer facing a threat when he fired rounds 2 & 3 which if there is any justice left in our country, should pose a problem for him.

What additionally is problematic, is that it has been reported that there was a doctor on scene and that the agents prevented him from rendering aid, which the SHOOTER is supposed to do or if he can't do so personally, then he is required by law to summon aid. Merely going through the motions and stating "call 911" but then interfering with aid being rendered, if not unlawful, should be in my opinion. Unless they just didn't want any witnesses to her condition which is not that far-fetched when you considered they've iced out all of the other law enforcement agencies who normally would have access to and at least liaison with the agency conducting the investigation which I assume is the FBI?!?

Then there is this:

 

[shockedcanadian]

She tried to maneuver around the officers and their vehicles. One cop would have none of it and shot her dead.

I don't know why they were after her. Did she hit someone before this video begins? But I do know the the officer was recently drug 50 feet down the street and was hospitalized in another incident.

The guy has PTDS from the prior incident Im sure, but, yet he decides. "you know, with all I have been through, a good place to stand would be right here in front of this car?". I really hate unecessary death,.it pains me. This death, once again captured on video. Everyones addiction to their iphones, Reality TV and drone music has lead people to losing the grey matter in their brains. Logic and analysis has been replaced by impulse and emotion. The protesters pribably encouraged to.escalate these emotions.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

No, I'm saying there's a whole different video from a different standpoint. It's not in that one I posted. But my point was that it doesn't matter because he purposely placed himself there to block her instead of simply letting her leave. As the retired federal agent with expertise in that area stated.

To validate your point:

 

[Mac1958]

I've watched a bunch of videos of the incident including one in which multiple vantage points are synchronized by time and then they all run as if a single video. But out of all of the ones I've viewed it was the one which was showing the ICE agent's feet in the video and they appear to have been, at all times, to the side of the vehicle, not directly in front of it, at least not when Good began allow her vehicle to move forward.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to discover that her vehicle did make contact with him but not in the sense of running him over. The vehicle may have bumped him or showed him out of the way, but it wasn't enough of a shove that he was not able to remain on his feet and fire 3 rounds at pretty much point blank range (shots 2 & 3).

The problem as I see if, other than he never should have fired to begin with is that even if they rule that he was allowed to shot to defend himself when he was positioned allegedly in front of the vehicle, he was no longer facing a threat when he fired rounds 2 & 3 which if there is any justice left in our country, should pose a problem for him.

What additionally is problematic, is that it has been reported that there was a doctor on scene and that the agents prevented him from rendering aid, which the SHOOTER is supposed to do or if he can't do so personally, then he is required by law to summon aid. Merely going through the motions and stating "call 911" but then interfering with aid being rendered if not unlawful should be in my opinion. Unless they just didn't want any witnesses to her condition which is not that far-fetched when you considered they've iced out all of the other law enforcement agencies who normally would have access to and at least liaison with the agency conducting the investigation which I assume is the FBI?!?

Then there is this:
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Now that the FBI has swallowed the case, I'll just assume we'll never have the full story.

The whole story is ugly, and I have a different set of problems with what the two women were doing. This kind of behavior is indeed dangerous on their part, and activists (regardless of the ideology) are often part of the problem. The actions of ICE in the aftermath were also bad.

My interest in this zeroes in specifically on the reactions of Trump, Vance and Noem, and the way MAGA has simply run with what are clearly lies. They really do seem to believe the story that the shooter was hit by the vehicle. I don't think they're lying. And that's what really concerns me.

How does a country maintain itself when we can look at a clear video, and literally see two such drastically different things?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Trump, Vance, Noem, and most of MAGA here are saying he was hit.

Are they lying?

All three of the afore mentioned are lying, yes. They ALL kept saying that she ran him over, but he was on his feet the entire time.

And firing with one hand because the other was holding his so phone so he could film the shooting. He shot her firing from just one hand.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The irony here is that your posting on a thread that's based on a premise and lie that the agent was never hit by the SUV. LOL

You cannot make that shit up.

You just did.

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The ICE agent WAS NOT hit.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

This is pretty clear cut. The regime is lying. Blatantly.

But it gets worse: I don't think these people are lying. I think they really believe the vehicle hit the guy. That's much more concerning. I'd much rather they were lying.

You mean lacking the ability to discern what is reality & what is not? Or the complete lack of critical thinking capabilities? Or not being able to think for themselves and being completely reliant on others to do their thinking for them? They have a name for these qualities but no one wants to use it.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

ICE Academy Training Slashed in Bizarre Homage to Trump​

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The Daily Beast
https://www.thedailybeast.com › ice-academy-training-sl...
2 days ago — The number of ICE agents' training days was reduced to 47 days months before an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother in Minnesota.

They've been dumbing down the requirements for ALL of these misfits, ever since Trump darkened the door of the White House on January 20th 2025.

 

[Darlo kittu]

The guy has PTDS from the prior incident Im sure, but, yet he decides. "you know, with all I have been through, a good place to stand would be right here in front of this car?". I really hate unecessary death,.it pains me. This death, once again captured on video. Everyones addiction to their iphones, Reality TV and drone music has lead people to losing the grey matter in their brains. Logic and analysis has been replaced by impulse and emotion. The protesters pribably encouraged to.escalate these emotions.

I have PTSD but not the one suffered by our vets. Pretty Tired of Stupid Democrats

YNow that the FBI has swallowed the case, I'll just assume we'll never have the full story.

The whole story is ugly, and I have a different set of problems with what the two women were doing. This kind of behavior is indeed dangerous on their part, and activists (regardless of the ideology) are often part of the problem. The actions of ICE in the aftermath were also bad.

My interest in this zeroes in specifically on the reactions of Trump, Vance and Noem, and the way MAGA has simply run with what are clearly lies. They really do seem to believe the story that the shooter was hit by the vehicle. I don't think they're lying. And that's what really concerns me.

How does a country maintain itself when we can look at a clear video, and literally see two such drastically different things?

perhaps due to the left has list what little of their minds they had left when Trump sent the cackling hen packing

The Trump haters are opposed to everything Trump is for. Anyone who supports and works in his administration is also a target for their insane rage

Jesus himself could come from above and tell you people the ICE Officer was justified and they would accuse Hesud of being a sellout

Objective opinions are dead on the left and in the liberal media

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The guy has PTDS from the prior incident Im sure, but, yet he decides. "you know, with all I have been through, a good place to stand would be right here in front of this car?". I really hate unecessary death,.it pains me. This death, once again captured on video. Everyones addiction to their iphones, Reality TV and drone music has lead people to losing the grey matter in their brains. Logic and analysis has been replaced by impulse and emotion. The protesters pribably encouraged to.escalate these emotions.

So do you know why they just smash out people's windows? That is liable to set a lot of people off, because it's violence committed towards them.

His other encounter where he tried to mess someone up. I read somewhere, if this is the same incident, that he tazed the guy in the face and that when they found and arrested him, a doctor was needed to remove the tazer darts from his face. He has a LOT of hostility

 

[SweetSue92]

At that moment ... I see the shooter near the front left corner of the vehicle with plenty of time to jump out of the way.

I've been torn on this particular event. I'm no fan of woke activists attempting to hinder ICE agents who are doing the dirty job of removing invaders but I honestly believe the agent, in this case, overreacted and could have jumped out of the way.

I thought the very same thing until I considered the street was covered in ice. The frozen water kind

 

[SweetSue92]

Yeah, that's not what happened.

Well Mac, if you are REALLY the moderate/reasonable poster you say you are, consider this angle

 

[SweetSue92]

Now that the FBI has swallowed the case, I'll just assume we'll never have the full story.

The whole story is ugly, and I have a different set of problems with what the two women were doing. This kind of behavior is indeed dangerous on their part, and activists (regardless of the ideology) are often part of the problem. The actions of ICE in the aftermath were also bad.

My interest in this zeroes in specifically on the reactions of Trump, Vance and Noem, and the way MAGA has simply run with what are clearly lies. They really do seem to believe the story that the shooter was hit by the vehicle. I don't think they're lying. And that's what really concerns me.

How does a country maintain itself when we can look at a clear video, and literally see two such drastically different things?

How many hours, days, weeks, months, YEARS of your life have you wasted pondering and typing about "REPUBLICANS POUNCE" Mac? Good glory it's pathetic