Perhaps the best test of alternate realities - clear video of the shooting

[buttercup]

This is the best case I can think of where the two realities are so clear.

They're saying they've seen the vehicle clearly hit the shooter. They say the shooter moved out of the way of the vehicle. They say the vehicle went right at the shooter.

I see absolutely no contact, clearly. I see the vehicle beginning to turn just before the shots are fired, I see the shooter standing in place and turning with the vehicle to keep firing.

And I believe they're serious. Two different realities, literally.

Here's the clip from the different angle I was talking about that was going around.... Too bad someone added loud music to it.... And it's also sped up.

^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

This is crazy. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Mick2]

There's another clip of the incident from an entirely different standpoint that shows there was contact. But nevertheless, he put himself in front of a vehicle and stayed there when he didn't have to, and did other things wrong too, as this retired agent with 25 years experience including in the investigative arm of ICE/DHS explains:

He may not have done things perfectly by textbook training but that doesn't change the underlying fact that once the driver purposely accelerated her SUV into him and hit him he was then justified to use lethal force in self-defense.

 

[Mick2]

^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

You know the left has collapsed in on itself when it starts calling the video evidence a fake. Joe Biden's senility was all suppose a deep fake, too, right?

 

[Mick2]

I think LYING a prerequisite to work in the Trump regime

The irony here is that your posting on a thread that's based on a premise and lie that the agent was never hit by the SUV. LOL

You cannot make that shit up.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Here's the clip from the different angle I was talking about that was going around.... Too bad someone added loud music to it.... And it's also sped up.


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^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

This is crazy. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this.

Bottom line is do not stick your nose in matters that do not concern you.

The lefts precious Saint had a chip on her shoulder the size of a lumber yard and set out to interfere with law enforcement carrying out their duties

She blocked a road, refused to exit her vehicle when told by law enforcement, tried to flee while an officer was trying to open the door, and accelerated towards another officer

Only crazy ass liberals and Trump haters are shocked and of course, outraged over the officer shooting her

The left and liberal media will milk this for all they can. Democrats will pour gallons of gasoline on the fire while smirking how the mostly peaceful protesters need to remain calm

Just as they did during the George Floyd riots. The two attempts to assassinat President Trump. After the murder of Charlie Kirk

The entire time sneering how evil enforcement of existing immigration laws are u

 

[buttercup]

You know the left has collapsed in on itself when it starts calling the video evidence a fake. Joe Biden's senility was all suppose a deep fake, too, right?

I was just relaying what Grok said. I know that Grok is not infallible.

Anyway, if you read the thread, MAC is the one claiming there was no contact Not me. So take it up with him. I already explained my view, a couple times on this thread.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

After watching several times there is contact at the .35 second mark


she hit him, he shot back

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Here's the clip from the different angle I was talking about that was going around.... Too bad someone added loud music to it.... And it's also sped up.


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^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

This is crazy. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this.

That is part of Macs video in the OP and at the .35 second mark.

 

[buttercup]

After watching several times there is contact at the .35 second mark


she hit him, he shot back

And he put himself there, which they are not supposed to do. He stayed there when he could have simply stepped out of the way. Look at the video I posted in post 2, from a retired federal agent with experience in investigation.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

And he put himself there, which they are not supposed to do. He stayed there when he could have simply stepped out of the way. Look at the video I posted in post 2, from a retired federal agent with experience in investigation.

Maybe so.........but if you're in the car and a cop is standing in front of you....what do you think is going to happen, if you hit the gas pedal?

 

[buttercup]

That is part of Macs video in the OP and at the .35 second mark.

Yes, I know. I asked Grok for that clip and it provided it for me. Then later said it was from another incident, in 2025. But I know Grok can be wrong. In any event, to me it's clear that he was trying to stop her by positioning himself there, and they had already escalated the situation unnecessarily. As the video I posted in post 2 explains.

 

[buttercup]

Maybe so.........but if you're in the car and a cop is standing in front of you....what do you think is going to happen, if you hit the gas pedal?

There's another video that shows he pulled his gun out before that. Plus, he was pissed off, so for a number of reasons I think he shot her in anger.

 

[SaxonJackson]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

At that moment ... I see the shooter near the front left corner of the vehicle with plenty of time to jump out of the way.

I've been torn on this particular event. I'm no fan of woke activists attempting to hinder ICE agents who are doing the dirty job of removing invaders but I honestly believe the agent, in this case, overreacted and could have jumped out of the way.

 

[Muhammed]

Okay, I believe that's what you see.

You can't run straight at a car and then complain that it touched you.

 

[buttercup]

At that moment ... I see the shooter near the front left corner of the vehicle with plenty of time to jump out of the way.

I've been torn on this particular event. I'm no fan of woke activists attempting to hinder ICE agents who are doing the dirty job of removing invaders but I honestly believe the agent, in this case, over reacted and could have jumped out of the way.

Same here! And the reality is, if people don't care about or cheer on jackbooted thug behavior, eventually any one of us could be next.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

There's another video that shows he pulled his gun out before that. Plus, he was pissed off, so for a number of reasons I think he shot her in anger.

But she did drive right into him........knowing full well he was in the way and she intended to hit him. Yes he was wrong to be in front of her, but she had no right or excuse to hit him either.

Maybe the better questions to ask would be.......why were they trying to stop her from leaving in the first place? What lead up to the situation in the first place.

Cops or NG don't usually try to stop someone in the manner shown in the videos, without a good reason. And that part seems to be absent from all videos, that I'm aware of.

 

[HaShev]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

prople's answers and thoughts on the subject will be tainted by the fact many think MSM is talking about the guy approaching her side open window, because MSM favors that view and don't point out the other agent in front of the vehicle and in many cases are purposely trying to confuse viewers, those buying the focus on the wrong agent ruse don't believe the agent was hit if they focused on the wrong agent, which is what Dems want people to do ( be missinformed).
In 2 other angles he is definitely hit, looked like his foot was run over even, but also MSM hides the context of him being runover and dragged by a protester before, so his instinct reaction has to he viewed via context of threats that had prior actions= defense is 100% warranted no matter how anyone wants to nitpick.
Spin doctors on the left lose all arguments via their own prior argument protecting what the Capital Police guard did on
Jan 6th 2021 shooting through a door window claiming fear of danger.
The difference is Good had a few tons of weapon there and Ashli Babbitt had 0 weapons.

 

[buttercup]

But she did drive right into him........knowing full well he was in the way and she intended to hit him. Yes he was wrong to be in front of her, but she had no right or excuse to hit him either.

Maybe the better questions to ask would be.......why were they trying to stop her from leaving in the first place? What lead up to the situation in the first place.

Cops or NG don't usually try to stop someone in the manner shown in the videos, without a good reason. And that part seems to be absent from all videos, that I'm aware of.

She turned her wheel and and the tires were going to the right, if she was purposely trying to hit him she would have gone straight or to the left. And yeah he was trying to stop her from leaving... that's why he positioned himself in front of her vehicle. But he didn't have to shoot her in the face, he saw her in advance and he could have simply got out of the way. Fleeing is not a capital offense.

 

[Darlo kittu]

She turned her wheel and and the tires were going to the right, if she was purposely trying to hit him she would have gone straight or to the left. And yeah he was trying to stop her from leaving... that's why he positioned himself in front of her vehicle. But he didn't have to shoot her in the face, he saw her in advance and he could have simply got out of the way. Fleeing is not a capital offense.

The left, liberal media, and the RINO's are rejoicing over this. They can raise money off of it. They can spew their hate for law enforcement and love of illegals

 

[JustAnotherNut]

She turned her wheel and and the tires were going to the right, if she was purposely trying to hit him she would have gone straight or to the left. And yeah he was trying to stop her from leaving... that's why he positioned himself in front of her vehicle. But he didn't have to shoot her in the face, he saw her in advance and he could have simply got out of the way. Fleeing is not a capital offense

wasn't paying alot of attention to the direction of her wheels......thanks, that makes all the difference. It's not like she was driving around the other car or anything.

it's obvious you're gonna stick by her side thru thick and thin cause she's innocent and the cop is the bad guy with no indication of WHY


Mandela effect.