Penn & Teller - The Bible

[Max Power]

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/39460

Penn and Teller debunk a lot of what they find in The Bible. Are they going to Hell for this? Get serious. Clip is over 29 minutes.

 

[archangel]

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/39460

way too long to view!

 

[no1tovote4]

Penn & Teller Bullshit! is such a cool show. Have you ever seen the one about PETA?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I saw Penn&Teller in Chicago about 20 or so years ago.

 

[no1tovote4]

He keeps saying "Elvis never did not drugs!" as if it proved his point or something. He also uses the Old Covenant arguments that have been explained on this site before, bringing up the 'purity' laws in the old testament and saying you can't 'throw them away', without regard or understanding of the New Covenant and how it changed those rules.

He does bring up good points about Noah's Ark, and other stories that could not be scientifically factual, but all in all didn't 'debunk' the bible any more than any other person did. At the end, the answer was Faith...

Even the sceptic magazine guy was willing to say there 'Probably was a man named Jesus..."

 

[dilloduck]

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/39460

Thankfully you self-debunk so we don't need any hired help.

 

[jAZ]

At the end, the answer was Faith...

That was actually at the beginning.

 

[no1tovote4]

That was actually at the beginning.

And the end. Did you watch the whole thing. The Dr. stated at the end that over all there was a need for Faith.

 

[jAZ]

And the end. Did you watch the whole thing. The Dr. stated at the end that over all there was a need for Faith.

Yeah, I did.

My point was that the started out by saying something to the effect that "this discussion isn't for you Christians who base your beliefs merely on faith... It's for those who think the bible is literally true and base your beliefs on such".

That's not even remotely close to the exact words, but that was the idea.

 

[Said1]

It was said at the beginning and the end, by different people. :arabia:

 

[LuvRPgrl]

It was said at the beginning and the end, by different people. :arabia:

I heard it somewhere in the middle, and at the end of the first quarter, and the third quarter.

 

[Hobbit]

He keeps saying "Elvis never did not drugs!" as if it proved his point or something. He also uses the Old Covenant arguments that have been explained on this site before, bringing up the 'purity' laws in the old testament and saying you can't 'throw them away', without regard or understanding of the New Covenant and how it changed those rules.

He does bring up good points about Noah's Ark, and other stories that could not be scientifically factual, but all in all didn't 'debunk' the bible any more than any other person did. At the end, the answer was Faith...

Even the sceptic magazine guy was willing to say there 'Probably was a man named Jesus..."

I have talked about Noah's Ark on the board before. Meteorologists currently have a well-supported theory that conditions existed a few thousand years ago that could produce a super hurricane, what they call a 'hypercane." These conditions include a warmer climate (take that, global warming), moister atmosphere, and some stuff I didn't understand about tilt and tidal conditions. Anyway, a 'hypercane' carries enough precipitation that a large one could have flooded the entire world known to the Mesopotamians in the time of Noah, even as high as Mr. Ararat.

 

[MissileMan]

I have talked about Noah's Ark on the board before. Meteorologists currently have a well-supported theory that conditions existed a few thousand years ago that could produce a super hurricane, what they call a 'hypercane." These conditions include a warmer climate (take that, global warming), moister atmosphere, and some stuff I didn't understand about tilt and tidal conditions. Anyway, a 'hypercane' carries enough precipitation that a large one could have flooded the entire world known to the Mesopotamians in the time of Noah, even as high as Mr. Ararat.

What I saw on hyper-canes was that they needed an immense energy source to even form, like for instance a large meteor landing in the ocean. In order to maintain a hyper-cane for any length of time, a series of precisely located meteors would be required to keep "refueling" it.

 

[musicman]

What I saw on hyper-canes was that they needed an immense energy source to even form, like for instance a large meteor landing in the ocean. In order to maintain a hyper-cane for any length of time, a series of precisely located meteors would be required to keep "refueling" it.

Wow - some sort of "intelligent design", you're saying.

 

[MissileMan]

Wow - some sort of "intelligent design", you're saying.

Ummm, no. I'm saying that the Hyper-cane explanation for the "Noah's flood" is probably one of the weaker attempts to come up with a plausible natural explanation for a supposed supernatural event.

 

[musicman]

Ummm, no. I'm saying that the Hyper-cane explanation for the "Noah's flood" is probably one of the weaker attempts to come up with a plausible natural explanation for a supposed supernatural event.

I don't see it that way at all. Perhaps a hyper-cane is the method a supernatural intelligence used to accomplish its ends.

 

[MissileMan]

I don't see it that way at all. Perhaps a hyper-cane is the method a supernatural intelligence used to accomplish its ends.

A supernatural intelligence with the ability of "Let there be light" would not need to use a concerted meteor bombardment to inundate the globe. I would think that "Let there be water" would "Git er done!"

 

[musicman]

A supernatural intelligence with the ability of "Let there be light" would not need to use a concerted meteor bombardment to inundate the globe. I would think that "Let there be water" would "Git er done!"

Being thus omnipotent, though, it could accomplish miracles any way it wished. Who are we to say? Some being out there has the recipe for air, and light, and water, and wind. It sure ain't me - and I sure ain't gonna Monday-morning quarterback the dude.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Ummm, no. I'm saying that the Hyper-cane explanation for the "Noah's flood" is probably one of the weaker attempts to come up with a plausible natural explanation for a supposed supernatural event.

Maybe so, maybe not. But it certainly is much more plausable than a bunch of chemicals wondering around in some primordial soup and forming a single cell capable of creating a mucous membrane, a brain, ability to digest food, and DNA to replicate itself.

Im also wondering when Penn and Teller are gonna do their similiar "expose" on the Koran.

I doubt they have the balls.

But it also shows you which of the three religions is the violent one.