Pelosi Suggests Delaying State of the Union

[toomuchtime_]

Again, that's simply not true. He has been pushing the smart fence since day one of his presidency, and he tried to reason with the Democrats to no avail, so we now have a shutdown that will last until support for the smart fence, which is steadily growing, forces the Democrats to seek a face saving way of backing down.

Then why didn’t he want the $25 billion Democrats offered him a year ago?

From the first days of his administration, Trump stated that he wanted to find a fair resolution to the so called "Dreamers" and he offered to give them and many more illegals who are already here a path to citizenship in exchange for funding for the fence, but the Democrats insisted he also abandon his plans for immigration reform as a condition for the funding, and that he refused to do. The President laid out his proposal in a State of the Union address, so if all the Democrats wanted was a path to citizenship for the "dreamers" the deal would have been done over a year ago.

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

 

[S.J.]

Then why didn’t he want the $25 billion Democrats offered him a year ago?

From the first days of his administration, Trump stated that he wanted to find a fair resolution to the so called "Dreamers" and he offered to give them and many more illegals who are already here a path to citizenship in exchange for funding for the fence, but the Democrats insisted he also abandon his plans for immigration reform as a condition for the funding, and that he refused to do. The President laid out his proposal in a State of the Union address, so if all the Democrats wanted was a path to citizenship for the "dreamers" the deal would have been done over a year ago.

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate.

 

[tinydancer]

She never even contacted SS before making her announcement. And by the way insulting them. Lying *****.

"The Secret Service was never contacted by Nancy Pelosi’s office or other Democratic congressional leadership regarding their ability to protect the president, members of the administration and Congress during the State of the Union, according to a senior law enforcement official at the Department of Homeland Security.

According to the official who spoke to the The Daily Caller, Pelosi made the decision unilaterally without contacting the Secret Service or DHS. “The Secret Service was never contacted by congressional leadership regarding our security plan or the Secret Service’s ability to carry it out,” the senior law enforcement official said."

Secret Service Official: Pelosi Never Contacted Us For Security Plan Before Canceling Trump Speech

Secret Service Official: Pelosi Never Contacted Us For Security Plan Before Canceling Trump Speech

 

[bodecea]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Pelosi and the Dems got some bad internal polling numbers on the shutdown.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, they were talking about this on the news, and the only requirement is for it to be delivered to Congress. Either in person, in writing or via video is permissible, and he can use any way he wants to deliver it.

Chances are, after Pelosi tells him no, he's gonna give it at a rally in front of his adoring fans.

Would probably be one of the strangest SOTU's ever.

And..............Trump isn't gonna go quietly over this. His ego won't let him. He doesn't really want to actually be president, he just wants all the pomp and circumstance of the office without having to do any real work.

 

[tinydancer]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

How's suspended? You like that better? And I never said cancelled. You did.

But she has suspended the State of the Union.

 

[Faun]

Then why didn’t he want the $25 billion Democrats offered him a year ago?

From the first days of his administration, Trump stated that he wanted to find a fair resolution to the so called "Dreamers" and he offered to give them and many more illegals who are already here a path to citizenship in exchange for funding for the fence, but the Democrats insisted he also abandon his plans for immigration reform as a condition for the funding, and that he refused to do. The President laid out his proposal in a State of the Union address, so if all the Democrats wanted was a path to citizenship for the "dreamers" the deal would have been done over a year ago.

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

Nope, it's no lie. Democrats offered Trump $25 billion. He rejected their deal. Then they rejected his counter offer.

So no deal.

And now he gets -- nothing.

 

[Ambivalent1]

***Mods, please move this to the appropriate “catch all forum” if necessary. I don’t know if you guys are still doing that or not****

In a letter, House Speaker Pelosi asked the President to re-consider the date for the SOTU.

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Terrible idea.

She is a dementia addled twit who can't the fact that AOC is taking her spotlight.

 

[Asclepias]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

How's suspended? You like that better? And I never said cancelled. You did.

But she has suspended the State of the Union.

No you said cancelled. Its right there in your OP.

"Secret Service Official: Pelosi Never Contacted Us For Security Plan Before Canceling Trump Speech"

 

[Faun]

From the first days of his administration, Trump stated that he wanted to find a fair resolution to the so called "Dreamers" and he offered to give them and many more illegals who are already here a path to citizenship in exchange for funding for the fence, but the Democrats insisted he also abandon his plans for immigration reform as a condition for the funding, and that he refused to do. The President laid out his proposal in a State of the Union address, so if all the Democrats wanted was a path to citizenship for the "dreamers" the deal would have been done over a year ago.

Actually, what trump wanted to do was to gut legal immigration...

Trump’s swap: Citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers, legal immigration gutted

Hardly, what he wants to do was to allow people in to who had skills or talents that the US needed and keep people out who had nothing the American people needed and he wants to limit chain immigration to the immediate families of people who were admitted on their own merits rather than allow one green card holder to sponsor hundreds of people who would not otherwise qualify.

If you believe America is responsible for taking care of all the world's poor, then you support the Democrats' opposition to the President' immigration reforms, but if you believe the responsibility of the US government is to protect the interests of the American people, then you support the President's immigration reforms.

”Hardly...”

LOL

I posted what he wanted to do, which he and Democrats could not agree on.

Oh well, he could have had his wall and $25 billion. Now he gets nothing. Immigration stays as it was anyway, he gets $0 billions, he gets no wall and now he gets to stew in a government shutdown that he owns.

The President was willing to give the dreamers and another 1,000,000 other illegals with special circumstances paths to citizenship in exchange for funding for the smart fence, but the Democrats said, "To hell with the dreamers, we are demanding control over immigration as well!" So you see, when Schumer claimed he offered the President funding for the smart fence in exchange for DACA, he was lying, and when you claimed he had, you were repeating his lie.

The Dems never intended to fund the wall. They tried to trick him into giving them DACA first (with a promise to fund the wall), then break the promise like they always do. That's how these creeps operate.

You dumbshit. Democrats voted to give Trump the entire $25 billion in a trust fund setup to allow annual withdrawals up to $5 billion. There was no way they "break the promise."

 

[eagle1462010]

What's new.......They are always Lying..............It's a show.

 

[sparky]

Would probably be one of the strangest SOTU's ever.

They just don't make enough Jamesons....

~S~

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[tinydancer]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

How's suspended? You like that better? And I never said cancelled. You did.

But she has suspended the State of the Union.

No you said cancelled. Its right there in your OP.

"Secret Service Official: Pelosi Never Contacted Us For Security Plan Before Canceling Trump Speech"

What part of "that's from the freaking title of the article don't you get?"

I never said it.

 

[Asclepias]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

How's suspended? You like that better? And I never said cancelled. You did.

But she has suspended the State of the Union.

No you said cancelled. Its right there in your OP.

"Secret Service Official: Pelosi Never Contacted Us For Security Plan Before Canceling Trump Speech"

What part of "that's from the freaking title of the article don't you get?"

I never said it.

The part where you put it in your OP. Why put a lie in your OP?

 

[saveliberty]

Oh I think Nancy already suggested a great idea. Have Trump write a SOTU address and give it to Congress. That fulfills his responsibilities. I would go on national TV and give it to the public from the White House. Simply bypass the House of Representatives.

 

[saveliberty]

What part of "that's from the freaking title of the article don't you get?"

I never said it.

Anyone seen Ascleptias' deflated ego around here? Seems he can't refute the body of the article, so he picks at the TITLE.

 

[WillPower]

Anyone seen Ascleptias' deflated ego around here? Seems he can't refute the body of the article, so he picks at the TITLE.

It's what's left from a lifetime of crack and fried chicken.

 

[bodecea]

You know it isn't cancelled, right? She just suggested it be cancelled. Try not to clutch your pearls TOO tightly.

How's suspended? You like that better? And I never said cancelled. You did.

But she has suspended the State of the Union.

So...it IS suspended? Or she's just asked that it be suspended? Which is it? Because you sure seem to think it's a done deal.