BluesLegend
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He wanted a 4th term.Why would Obama even care who ran?
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He wanted a 4th term.Why would Obama even care who ran?
I think you mean last year.What was that? Dive years ago? Six?
Water under the bridge
Because Obama wanted to become a defacto King. In control of the country whether recognized publicly as such or not.Why would Obama even care who ran?
Only in a room with YOU.You got to hand it to him. B.O. was often the smartest guy in the room and any one point in time.

Vance is intelligent. Vance has the ability to answer accusations and to give retorts to questions. As VP he gets to e known more than as a Senator with a few years of experience for the Republican Party. Obama and Hillary never had to worry about that as the 95% Progressive controlled media/entertainers sang their virtues every day. Vance destroyed Walz in the VP debate. And Walz can talk.Because Obama wanted to become a defacto King. In control of the country whether recognized publicly as such or not.
That's been his goal the whole time. The rampant criminality, unregulated immigration, Judicial appointees, criminalizing political opponents and the whole Woke/DEI agenda all point to a very specific plan written by an author that describes how to control a nation using these very tactics to create chaos and to then come in to save the day with massive public support.
However, these actions in American Society all leave fingerprints of who precisely did them. Even though MSM has been covering for the Democrats and especially the Obama's....it's still insufficient to get away with it. Who did what is blatantly visible. And where it will take time to clean it all up and restore order....Trump has been working insane hours to do so.
I'm not sure that Vance will work the same type of schedule....but we'll see.
So far Vance has not made any political mistakes and been recognized publicly and often for his own contributions.
Democrats are not getting the White House anytime soon....especially with the staggering amount of corruption in the Obama, Clinton, and Biden administration's.
Well...Vance is intelligent. Vance has the ability to answer accusations and to give retorts to questions. As VP he gets to e known more than as a Senator with a few years of experience for the Republican Party. Obama and Hillary never had to worry about that as the 95% Progressive controlled media/entertainers sang their virtues every day. Vance destroyed Walz in the VP debate. And Walz can talk.
Defeat him for what? He can't run for Pres again, so who has to give a shit, about the lame duck, other than his admirers.Without unverifiable mail in ballots no Democrat was going to defeat Trump.
Defeat him for what? He can't run for Pres again, so who has to give a shit, about the lame duck, other than his admirers.
No Dumbass. It had nothing to do with mail in ballots, not mentioned in the OP Thread Post or anywhere else. The topic under discussion was about Obama, reported angered by Pelosis quick announcement supporting the weak candidate Harris, when they had already had conversations, him saying he was not in favor of a coronation, but a process, which they never had. And why? Because Old Nancy jumped the gun. The point of my post, that went right over your little head, is that it was Joe's fault, for insisting he was up to the task/job when he wasn't but known only to a small group. Joe gets the blame, another of his miscalculations, bad for the country, bad for the election. The Dems should have been finding a group of viable candidates, back in 2023, if they were to have a hope of defeating Trump, who had been running, apparent nominee, long before the official campaign season (much less primary season) began.You are, or you are not aware that this story is about the 2024 election?
No Dumbass. It had nothing to do with mail in ballots, not mentioned in the OP Thread Post or anywhere else. The topic under discussion was about Obama, reported angered by Pelosis quick announcement supporting the weak candidate Harris, when they had already had conversations, him saying he was not in favor of a coronation, but a process, which they never had. And why? Because Old Nancy jumped the gun. The point of my post, that went right over your little head, is that it was Joe's fault, for insisting he was up to the task/job when he wasn't but known only to a small group. Joe gets the blame, another of his miscalculations, bad for the country, bad for the election. The Dems should have been finding a group of viable candidates, back in 2023, if they were to have a hope of defeating Trump, who had been running, apparent nominee, long before the official campaign season (much less primary season) began.
If you want to start a thread on mail in ballots, start your own thread. This one is taken. The topic obviously is, and is titled:
'What the f*** did you just do?' Obama's furious call to Nancy Pelosi after election betrayal
Thread based on that title, the supporting OP and linked article.
'What the f*** did you just do?' Obama's furious call to Nancy Pelosi after election betrayal27 Oct 2025 ~~ By Nikki Schwab![]()
'What the f***?' Obama's rage at Pelosi after election betrayal
Barack Obama was not pleased that Nancy Pelosi endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris the day after President Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race, a new book claims.www.dailymail.co.uk
Former President Barack Obama was not pleased that former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris the day after President Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race.
In his new book Retribution, ABC News' Jonathan Karl provided new details on what had been widely known - that Obama didn't want a quick coronation of Harris, but rather 'a process' to determine who would become the Democratic nominee.
The Daily Mail obtained an advanced copy.
Obama called Pelosi shortly after her endorsement of Harris became public.
'The Obamas were not happy,' a Pelosi confidant told Karl. 'This person summed up Obama's message to Pelosi as, essentially, "What the f*** did you just do?"'
Pelosi told the former Democratic president: 'That train has left the station.'
The endorsement had come as a surprise to Obama because he and Pelosi had been in 'regular communication' as it appeared then 81-year-old Biden was nearing the decision to drop out of the race, and 'they agreed Harris should not simply be handed the nomination unchallenged,' Karl wrote.
'Therefore, Obama and Pelosi - arguably the two most influential figures in the Democratic Party - had privately agreed to abstain from making any endorsements,' the longtime ABC News reporter said.
~Snip~
'The former president wanted to know what had happened. Why had Pelosi issued a statement endorsing Harris so soon? Hadn't he and Pelosi agreed days earlier that party leaders anointing the vice president as Biden’s replacement would be a mistake?' Karl wrote.
A source close to Obama told Karl that the former president wasn't actually angry at Pelosi over the endorsement, characterizing the conversation as a 'good-natured ribbing.'
But the source close to the California congresswoman remembered it differently, believing Obama sounded 'genuinely irritated' by Pelosi's move, using the four-letter word to describe the tone.
~Snip~
But with major Democrats like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and potential challengers like Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, California Governor Gavin Newsom and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer quickly backing Harris, 'she had no choice,' Karl wrote.
'No other candidates had stepped forward - Kamala Harris was it. The only thing Pelosi could do was try to help her win the election,' Karl said.
Obama and his wife, former First Lady Michelle Obama, made the same assessment days later, officially endorsing Harris in a campaign video five days after Biden exited the 2024 race.
Commentary:
Hmm..., a fine example of the hypocrisy of the left after No Kings Day….”You’ll take our candidate or else!
Democrats stabbed Joe in the back.
Joey B then turned right around and stabbed them in the back with a quick endorsement of Kamala Harris. That was a real “Screw you!” to his own party.
Pelosi was caught off guard and didn’t know what to do so she just went along with Joe’s endorsement.
Democrats led by Obama and Pelosi screwed things up welly before June of 2024.
Biden shouldn’t have been president. He was mentally unfit before he ran and Democrat hierarchy knew it. But Covid was the cover up. Harris blew the primaries and they should have picked a way better vice presidential candidate. The picked a loser that they couldn’t beat the current president. Lots of political mistakes.
Obama has done more to divide this country than any previous president, and the demented Joey Biden just continued his legacy.
Is there trouble and turmoil in the Democrat paradise? San Fran Nan was of no help in totally botched 2024 election.
Now the "Party" is in total disarray and it will take years to recover.
What's the diference? They both live rent free in Sleepy Don's & MAGA's head.Are we taking about Joe or Hunter?
You know, I don't doubt Obama was pissed however, Karl only provides one citation from one person:
'What the f*** did you just do?' Obama's furious call to Nancy Pelosi after election betrayal27 Oct 2025 ~~ By Nikki Schwab![]()
'What the f***?' Obama's rage at Pelosi after election betrayal
Barack Obama was not pleased that Nancy Pelosi endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris the day after President Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race, a new book claims.www.dailymail.co.uk
Former President Barack Obama was not pleased that former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris the day after President Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race.
In his new book Retribution, ABC News' Jonathan Karl provided new details on what had been widely known - that Obama didn't want a quick coronation of Harris, but rather 'a process' to determine who would become the Democratic nominee.
The Daily Mail obtained an advanced copy.
Obama called Pelosi shortly after her endorsement of Harris became public.
'The Obamas were not happy,' a Pelosi confidant told Karl. 'This person summed up Obama's message to Pelosi as, essentially, "What the f*** did you just do?"'
Pelosi told the former Democratic president: 'That train has left the station.'
The endorsement had come as a surprise to Obama because he and Pelosi had been in 'regular communication' as it appeared then 81-year-old Biden was nearing the decision to drop out of the race, and 'they agreed Harris should not simply be handed the nomination unchallenged,' Karl wrote.
'Therefore, Obama and Pelosi - arguably the two most influential figures in the Democratic Party - had privately agreed to abstain from making any endorsements,' the longtime ABC News reporter said.
~Snip~
'The former president wanted to know what had happened. Why had Pelosi issued a statement endorsing Harris so soon? Hadn't he and Pelosi agreed days earlier that party leaders anointing the vice president as Biden’s replacement would be a mistake?' Karl wrote.
A source close to Obama told Karl that the former president wasn't actually angry at Pelosi over the endorsement, characterizing the conversation as a 'good-natured ribbing.'
But the source close to the California congresswoman remembered it differently, believing Obama sounded 'genuinely irritated' by Pelosi's move, using the four-letter word to describe the tone.
~Snip~
But with major Democrats like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and potential challengers like Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, California Governor Gavin Newsom and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer quickly backing Harris, 'she had no choice,' Karl wrote.
'No other candidates had stepped forward - Kamala Harris was it. The only thing Pelosi could do was try to help her win the election,' Karl said.
Obama and his wife, former First Lady Michelle Obama, made the same assessment days later, officially endorsing Harris in a campaign video five days after Biden exited the 2024 race.
Commentary:
Hmm..., a fine example of the hypocrisy of the left after No Kings Day….”You’ll take our candidate or else!
Democrats stabbed Joe in the back.
Joey B then turned right around and stabbed them in the back with a quick endorsement of Kamala Harris. That was a real “Screw you!” to his own party.
Pelosi was caught off guard and didn’t know what to do so she just went along with Joe’s endorsement.
Democrats led by Obama and Pelosi screwed things up welly before June of 2024.
Biden shouldn’t have been president. He was mentally unfit before he ran and Democrat hierarchy knew it. But Covid was the cover up. Harris blew the primaries and they should have picked a way better vice presidential candidate. The picked a loser that they couldn’t beat the current president. Lots of political mistakes.
Obama has done more to divide this country than any previous president, and the demented Joey Biden just continued his legacy.
Is there trouble and turmoil in the Democrat paradise? San Fran Nan was of no help in totally botched 2024 election.
Now the "Party" is in total disarray and it will take years to recover.