Pelosi held up your money for a week so we could see this....

[eagle1462010]

AOC gives a hysterical speech and tries to fly. Pretty funny but not sure it was worth a week's delay.

AOC angrily slams ‘crumbs for our families’ in a fiery speech about coronavirus stimulus on House floor

She is a lying sack of bullcrap.

Explain her lie...

Why the hell should those with FORGED ID'S....get the money.........ITN's why should they........

Your side wants to bitch.........take out the LOOP HOLES in the border AND PROSECUTE those with FAKE ID's.........which is against the Law.

asswipePINO's former maid?

I could careless.............if they are here illegally they can go back ....and I don't care if they have been here since Reagan when the I-9 form came into being...........They are KNOWINGLY TAKING NAMES and SSN's to stay here...........

Prison or thrown out......I don't care........Reps KNOW THIS..........they don't do anything.

E-Verify is a joke as well........proven to not catch jack.

You could "careless" and everything is a joke, but you voted for a guy that hired illegal aliens and make most of his money through bankruptcy protection. Maybe it's YOU that is a joke.

aka you don't want to answer why those with FAKE ID'S should get the money.

I don't know about his maid.......and if she is illegal she can go too..........

They have BASTARDIZED Reagan's I-9 law..........They set up a Fake ID network and decades have abused the living hell out of it................

That is why you see people being deported in raids that have been here for decades...........they go voluntarily.......because it's PRISON OR DEPORTATION.

I don't know about his maid.......and if she is illegal she can go too..........

LIAR!

BS............they are here illegally......if you have proof she is then we send her back too............Your side is FULL OF IT.

Open Borders CRAP.............Fix the damned LAWS or ENFORCE THEM........NOTHING IN BETWEEN.

asswipePINO hired illegals, skank.

More BS LIB..............NO OPEN BORDERS...........You must be from the Chamber of Commerce.......

If WE SHUT DOWN the FAKE ID network.........Your PARTY wouldn't have a pot to piss in anymore.

Are you writing that the Republican controlled US Chamber of Commerce is responsible for open borders?

Both sides don't want to fix it.............YES........GOP and the dang Dems........don't want to fix it.....PERIOD.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The same imbecile who spent the last two decades in a tizzy over George W. Bush is now in an absolute tizzy over President Trump.

So basically, @NotfooledbyW is just a left-wing extremist who loses his shit over anyone who dares to place a little "R" behind their name.

You are a complete Dumbass for bringing up the fact that I was right about Bush lying to
all Americans for the need to invade and totally fuck up the occupation of Iraq.

You must agree now that I was right that Bush lied because your cult master says he did and you worship the ground he walks on.

I still don’t think TrumpO can get more people needlessly killed than Bush Cheney did by invading Iraq based on lies.

 

[P@triot]

You must agree now that I was right that Bush lied because your cult master says he did and you worship the ground he walks on.

Snowflake, you have a genuine mental disorder. I don't have to agree with anything you say when it comes to politics. And I don't.

There is 0 evidence that George W. Bush lied about anything. WMD's were absolutely found in Iraq, and even MSNBC themselves reported on them being used against coalition forces. Idiot.

 

[HenryBHough]

$1,200 in printing-press money isn't going to buy a shit load of toilet paper.

 

[P@triot]

You stop people by eliminating the reason they come or over extend their visa.......employment.

And if he knew which illegals had jobs, I'm quite certain he would pass that information on to ICE.

He's President of the United States, chief, not secret agent man. I guarantee ICE and FBI agents have far more info on these people and companies than Trump. That's far below his pay grade. He has more important things to focus on (that's why we hire the agents for that work).

 

[Markle]

She's 100% correct. Businesses should have gotten zero.

Specifically, why?

 

[P@triot]

$1,200 in printing-press money isn't going to buy a shit load of toilet paper.

We're so far gone, it doesn't even matter at this point. MaObama turned it all into Monopoly money with his $10 trillion in debt and his perpetual "quantitive easing".

There is absolutely no way to pay it off, there is absolutely no accountability, and there is nothing backing any of it. It's about as tangible as cryptocurrency.

 

[P@triot]

She's 100% correct. Businesses should have gotten zero.

Specifically, why?

Because we're not a socialist nation. Asking the government to bail out private industry is intolerable and inexcusable. And any business that takes money from the federal government should relinquish all autonomy. You can't scream for "free markets" when it suits you to operate independent from government control, and then take government money like a socialist nation.

 

[Siete]

Pelosi held up your money for a week so we could see this...


Trump held up the virus for 2 months so you could see Pelosi - thank his fat ass

 

[Markle]

If their employer was properly insured, their employer. If not, that's a question you should address to asswipePINO.

Where does one purchase insurance against a pandemic sweeping the world?

 

[Markle]

[The question answered below by P@triot was why companies should receive relief because of the Chinavirus]

Because we're not a socialist nation. Asking the government to bail out private industry is intolerable and inexcusable. And any business that takes money from the federal government should relinquish all autonomy. You can't scream for "free markets" when it suits you to operate independent from government control, and then take government money like a socialist nation.

Wrong my good friend.

This pandemic of epic and historic proportions is the reason the phrase "promote the general Welfare" appears in the Preamble of our Constitution. Not for healthcare, not for housing, employment or other things.

of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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This event could cause a catastrophic collapse of our economy if left unattended. This could have the potential to make the Great Depression pale by comparison.

Here we have millions of businesses that would be forced to close through no fault of their own, nothing whatsoever did they do wrong. Now is the time for all of us, including the government, to step up and "promote the general Welfare" of our country.

You could "careless" and everything is a joke, but you voted for a guy that hired illegal aliens and make most of his money through bankruptcy protection. Maybe it's YOU that is a joke.

 

[Markle]

Well, if there are 300 million Americans getting $1200 checks, that’s $360B. Leaving $1.6T for businesses.

While I’m for the bailout, you would think it would be closer to 50/50. There’ll be a lot of double dipping as there always is.

Why don't you find the actual provisions in the legislation before throwing out your ignorant suppositions? Or would that not fit your far left-wing agenda?

 

[Markle]

What does this have to do with the pandemic?!?

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pushed for the bill to mandate “diversity” on corporate boards and in banks, require airlines to disclose and reduce emissions, and mandate that states allow voting by mail.

Dumbocrats try to exploit every crisis to push their own personal agendas. Disgusting.

Little of Pelosi’s Wish List Made It Into COVID-19 Relief Bill. That’s a Relief.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted that any relief bill include a left-wing wish list unrelated to the pandemic and the economic slowdown it’s causing.

www.dailysignal.com

Yes, don't forget those words from Rahm Emanuel concerning a crisis. "“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.” ― Rahm Emanuel

The Democrats must have that tattooed on the palm of their hands so they never, ever forget. This is exactly why they were trying to shove such outrageous expenditures into this relief legislation.

Democrats don't care what the people want, Democrats sincerely believe that the people are too stupid to know what they want.

 

[Markle]

You are a complete Dumbass for bringing up the fact that I was right about Bush lying to
all Americans for the need to invade and totally fuck up the occupation of Iraq.

You must believe that by telling the same lie long enough, you can re-write history. Cute.

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
- President Clinton in 1998 “

[…], when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.”
- President Clinton , Jan. 27, 1998 – State of the Union

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 .

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqis nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.”

“Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

- President Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998


"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
- Madeline Albright, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "

Update: September 8, 2005 - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser was sentenced to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them..

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 .

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 .



Former Vice President Joe Biden urged the U.S. government in 1998 to pursue a strategy to ‘dethrone’ Saddam Hussein over allegations the Iraqi strongman was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

Biden, the-then ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was one of President Bill Clinton’s most vocal allies in the battle to pressure Hussein to abide by terms established after the Gulf War requiring Iraq to destroy its stockpile of chemical weapons. - Former Vice President Joe Biden 1998 1998: Joe Biden Urged U.S. to 'Dethrone' Saddam Hussein Over WMDs

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 .


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 .

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 .

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 .

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003" (Currently President Barack Hussein Obama’s Secretary of State)

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."
- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003



"Saddam is gone and good riddance," former President Bill Clinton said yesterday, but he urged President Bush to resist trying to get even with nations that opposed the war.


"There are German and French soldiers in Afghanistan today. Does the President want them to come home?" Clinton said at a Manhattan forum on corporate integrity.


Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)







He [President Clinton] praised Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for their handling of the war, but said Bush should have waited longer before attacking for the "chance that either [Saddam Hussein] would have disarmed or . . . we would have had far more members of the Security Council with us."


Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned weapons of mass destruction aren't found.



"I don't think you can criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. . . . That is what I was always told," Clinton said.
- Former President Clinton Wednesday, April 16, 2003

"Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" The vice president said he’d been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."
- Vice President Joe Biden (D) Feb. 10, 2010

 

[P@triot]

Wrong my good friend.

This pandemic of epic and historic proportions is the reason the phrase "promote the general Welfare" appears in the Preamble of our Constitution. Not for healthcare, not for housing, employment or other things.

Sorry Mark, but the preamble is not a power. The states delegated 18 enumerated powers to the the federal government, and private bailouts isn't one of them.

Furthermore, the founders were exceptionally crystal clear on the meaning of "the general welfare":

“Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action” - Thomas Jefferson (June 6, 1817)

“[We] disavow, and declare to be most false and unfounded, the doctrine that the [Constitution], in authorizing its federal branch to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, has given them thereby a power to do whatever they may think, or pretend, would promote the general welfare–which construction would make that of itself a complete government, without limitation of powers.… The plain sense and obvious meaning were that they might levy the taxes necessary to provide for the general welfare by the various acts of power therein specified and delegated to them, and by no others. – Thomas Jefferson(December 24, 1825)

If the federal government were empowered to "provide for the general welfare" they would have unlimited power. They could claim that removing your 1st Amendment rights were in the interest of the "general welfare". Both of those quotes by Jefferson make it abundantly clear.

 

[candycorn]

Well, if there are 300 million Americans getting $1200 checks, that’s $360B. Leaving $1.6T for businesses.

While I’m for the bailout, you would think it would be closer to 50/50. There’ll be a lot of double dipping as there always is.

Why don't you find the actual provisions in the legislation before throwing out your ignorant suppositions? Or would that not fit your far left-wing agenda?

Those are the provisions. If there were 300M Americans getting 1200 bucks each, that would be 360B dollars.

But the checks will be $500 for the dependents. Thus direct payouts to Americans will be far less than the 360B.

We’re seeing about 15 percent of the 2T.

Feel free to challenge the math.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Depends on the poll and who they poll. The last few have shown they way over poll Dems and under poll independents.

They don’t change their demographic breakdown from one week to the next.

 

[Dragonlady]

AOC gives a hysterical speech and tries to fly. Pretty funny but not sure it was worth a week's delay.

AOC angrily slams ‘crumbs for our families’ in a fiery speech about coronavirus stimulus on House floor

She's 100% correct. Businesses should have gotten zero.

so do you work for a business or know someone who's been impacted?

sometimes this blindsheepbaba bullshit is so very fucking tiresome.

I own five with four being impacted. All five are insured with revenue being replaced to pay debts.

Her main argument was illegals.........ITN'S.......

Should illegals get tax payer money........????????

Lying Trump cultists.

Her main argument that ALL of the money was going to corporations with no accountability. No money for the hospitals fighting the virus. No money for American workers, no money for small businesses, just large corporations - Trump's buddies. The fund would have been administered by the White House, with no reporting or accountability.

You can thank Nancy when you get your check.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You must believe that by telling the same lie long enough, you can re-write history. Cute.

IF I’m lying Trump is lying too.

I’m not lying. Bush lied to all those Democrats and you too. Those quotes are etched in time well before the March 2003 Bush decision to invade.

in a October 2002 There was no reason not to believe Iraq had stockpiles of active WMD that he could have passed on to terrorist s.

But four months later there were hundreds of UN inspectors inside Iraq finding nothing because there were none.

But on March 17 2003 Bush lied saying SH was hiding the most lethal weapons ever devised from UN inspectors. That is his lie. Trump knows it’s a lie. Why do you not believe Trump?

 

[Markle]

Well, if there are 300 million Americans getting $1200 checks, that’s $360B. Leaving $1.6T for businesses.

While I’m for the bailout, you would think it would be closer to 50/50. There’ll be a lot of double dipping as there always is.

Why don't you find the actual provisions in the legislation before throwing out your ignorant suppositions? Or would that not fit your far left-wing agenda?

Those are the provisions. If there were 300M Americans getting 1200 bucks each, that would be 360B dollars.

But the checks will be $500 for the dependents. Thus direct payouts to Americans will be far less than the 360B.

We’re seeing about 15 percent of the 2T.

Feel free to challenge the math.

Well, your arithmetic is atrocious proving only that you have no clue what is in the bill. Come back when you know what you are talking about.

Here is a place for you to start.

What's in the stimulus package? Here are the highlights of Congress' $2.2T relief package

Some highlights of a $2.2 trillion package to help businesses, workers and a health care system staggered by the coronavirus pandemic.

www.usatoday.com