Zone1 Pastor: They’re Not Deceived – Trump Evangelicals Are CHOOSING the Lies

[Rawley]

He ran in the primaries

Like your drunken twatwaffle, he bailed before any of the primaries.

 

[Mac1958]

SS, like most so-called "Christians" on this forum have transactional beliefs. They use them when they want to and ignore them when they don't need them. She needs to remember that Yeshua fed the hungry, healed the sick and kicked the money lenders out of the temple.

Yep. These are CINOs. We've seen how using religion as a weapon can destroy. One must only look to the Middle East for that.

They've sold their soul to a vulgarian who's the opposite of the Jesus Christ they claim to follow, purely for personal political gain.

I know I should feel bad for them, but it's not easy. I'd rather just not soil myself with it by engaging it.

 

[Mashmont]

A retired pastor?

This nameless person appears to be pretty young to be a retired preacher

Did he belong to a real church?

If so what church was it?

That’s always the rub with these phony stories. People aren’t quite who they claim to be.

 

[Mac1958]

If you are sincere about your moral values, then YES I expect you to vote that way.
Remember when evangelicals used to call themselves the Moral Majority?
They lost that right

One thing I've seeing more and more of is pastors like this and Christians like Talarico beginning to clearly set MAGA CINOs apart as "Christian Nationalists". They're saying "that's not us".

That's a good, fairly low-key way to set them apart from the religion they're wrecking. For the Christian Nationalists, it's about nationalist partisan politics over Jesus. He has been replaced.

 

[Quantrill]

Odd logic
Pence “stabbed Trump in the back”?

When it was Trump who did nothing while an angry mob he had sent was seeking to “hang Mike Pence”

Trump never even enquired to see if Pence was safe

Did Trump send a mob to hang Pence?

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Did Trump send a mob to hang Pence?

Quantrill

He set them off once they were there

Rather than trying to calm the mob down, Trump sent a message about how disappointed he was with Pence

They responded with….Hang Mike Pence

 

[Quantrill]

He set them off once they were there

Rather than trying to calm the mob down, Trump sent a message about how disappointed he was with Pence

They responded with….Hang Mike Pence

He set them off once they were there? Kinda like Obama did with the Minn. protests/riots against ICE agents and military. Big help he was in trying to calm down the mob.

And what of Dem. Senator Elissa Slotkin and 5 other Dem. members of Congress who urged military personnel to disobey what they believed were illegal orders? No calming down the mob here.

Well, Trump was and still is disappointed with Pence. And the American people put Trump back in as President and Pence sits somewhere doing who knows what. No doubt trying to run interference against Trump's presidency.

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

He set them off once they were there? Kinda like Obama did with the Minn. protests/riots against ICE agents and military. Big help he was in trying to calm down the mob.

And what of Dem. Senator Elissa Slotkin and 5 other Dem. members of Congress who urged military personnel to disobey what they believed were illegal orders? No calming down the mob here.

Well, Trump was and still is disappointed with Pence. And the American people put Trump back in as President and Pence sits somewhere doing who knows what. No doubt trying to run interference against Trump's presidency.

Quantrill

NICE DEFLECTION

Has nothing to do with Trump setting a mob on his Vice President

Pence performed his job as Vice President
Trump failed in his role as President

Hang Mike Pence

 

[SweetSue92]

If you are sincere about your moral values, then YES I expect you to vote that way.

Remember when evangelicals used to call themselves the Moral Majority?

They lost that right

Yeah....in the 80s. Back then you were actually liberals too, rather than prudish social justice types. Remember that?

 

[JoeB131]

Unemployment is 4.3. So what.s We are in transtion from government jobs to real jobs

Well, first you believe anything the government is reporting at this point, which is kind of sad. After Trump fired the last head of BLS, you know the rest of them are telling him what he wants to hear.

Out here in the real world, companies are cutting head count.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah....in the 80s. Back then you were actually liberals too, rather than prudish social justice types. Remember that?

I always wondered how evangelicals face their children.

Children face strict standards of behavior and morality.
They learn the Golden Rule

Then they see their parents flying a TRUMP flag
I know it’s wrong but it is OK when HE does it

 

[JoeB131]

Honest to Pete, the absolute judgmental PURITANS you all are....the kids hate it, that's why they're become conservative.

Wait, now, are you saying that Conservatives can't find a guy who isn't an adulterer, a tax cheat, etc.

You have absolutely no good people and you need to put up a piece of human excrement like Trump?

Is this what you are saying.

I mean, I didn't care for Dubya (even though I voted for him twice), but he was a decent guy.

So were most of the people Trump beat in 2016 and 2024.

 

[Hafar1014]

Well, first you believe anything the government is reporting at this point, which is kind of sad. After Trump fired the last head of BLS, you know the rest of them are telling him what he wants to hear.

Out here in the real world, companies are cutting head count.

The government is cutting and thats what matters. All new jobs are real private jobs and thats going to go up as manufacturing increases. The exception will be democrats states that are losing population and businesses.

 

[Hafar1014]

Wait, now, are you saying that Conservatives can't find a guy who isn't an adulterer, a tax cheat, etc.

You have absolutely no good people and you need to put up a piece of human excrement like Trump?

Is this what you are saying.

I mean, I didn't care for Dubya (even though I voted for him twice), but he was a decent guy.

So were most of the people Trump beat in 2016 and 2024.

You have Newsom and Harris. Ill take my cat over these losers

 

[JoeB131]

The government is cutting and thats what matters. All new jobs are real private jobs and thats going to go up as manufacturing increases. The exception will be democrats states that are losing population and businesses.

That's not true, either.

First, US Manufacturing lost 108,000 jobs in 2025.

U.S. manufacturing employment is down 108,000 in 2025 - Progressive Policy Institute

FACT: U.S. manufacturing employment is down 108,000 in 2025 THE NUMBERS: U.S. pop-up toaster tariffs and employment– Tariff rate Employment 2025 15.3% – ~80.0% 0 jobs 2024 5.3% 0 jobs * Rates now include the 5.3% MFN tariff, plus a series of “emergency decree” rates including (i) a 10%...

www.progressivepolicy.org

Secondly, our trade deficit has ballooned to record highs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/19/business/economy/imports-tariffs-trade-deficit.html

 

[Mashmont]

One thing I've seeing more and more of is pastors like this and Christians like Talarico beginning to clearly set MAGA CINOs apart as "Christian Nationalists". They're saying "that's not us".

That's a good, fairly low-key way to set them apart from the religion they're wrecking. For the Christian Nationalists, it's about nationalist partisan politics over Jesus. He has been replaced.

As a devout Catholic, the people I know who attend Mass every single day are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. They like Trump because of his pro-Christian agenda, his pro-life positions, and his anti-Marxist policies. They reject the false premise of "being mean to immigrants" recognizing the Catholic Church's position that nations have the right to control immigration, and of course protect election integrity.

So these phony leftwing-created memes like "Christian nationalists" are merely pejorative terms for people who go to church and love their country.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, first you believe anything the government is reporting at this point, which is kind of sad. After Trump fired the last head of BLS, you know the rest of them are telling him what he wants to hear.

Out here in the real world, companies are cutting head count.

I voted for him twice also but I wouldn't call him a nice guy

“Damn fool” is a better description

 

[JoeB131]

As a devout Catholic, the people I know who attend Mass every single day are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. They like Trump because of his pro-Christian agenda, his pro-life positions, and his anti-Marxist policies. They reject the false premise of "being mean to immigrants" recognizing the Catholic Church's position that nations have the right to control immigration, and of course protect election integrity.

Maybe you should check with the Pope.

Pope calls treatment of migrants in U.S. 'extremely disrespectful'

Pope Leo XIV said the U.S. bishops' special pastoral message on immigration is "a very important statement. I would invite especially all Catholics, but peop...

www.usccb.org

Insisting that the dignity of all people, including immigrants, must be respected, Pope Leo XIV asked U.S. Catholics and "people of goodwill" to read and listen to the U.S. bishops' recent pastoral message on the topic.

"When people are living good lives -- and many of them (in the United States) for 10, 15, 20 years -- to treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful, to say the least," is not acceptable, the pope said Nov. 18.

Meeting reporters outside his villa in Castel Gandolfo, Pope Leo was asked what he thought of the "special pastoral message on immigration" approved overwhelmingly by members of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Nov. 12.

I voted for him twice also but I wouldn't call him a nice guy

“Damn fool” is a better description

I kind of liked when politics were still civil.

 

[Meriweather]

I always wondered how evangelicals face their children.

Children face strict standards of behavior and morality.
They learn the Golden Rule

Then they see their parents flying a TRUMP flag

With open borders, did you ever hear of the sex trafficking (both adults and children) that went on? How about the fraud, the census manipulations in the name of power, the rapes and murders of American citizens, gangs, how everything from medical care to education to disruption and destruction to cities have been the result. It's like you are sitting up in an ivory tower away from all the day-to-day problems caused by illegal immigration/open borders. It's like you are thrilled to see Americans turn against Americans, causing even more chaos.

And why? All because of a fight for power that is ongoing in our nation's Capitol. Democrats fight to have illegals enter the country, be placed in areas to turn red to blue. Republicans fighting to remove these illegals to turn the blue back to red. And there you are trying to turn it into a moral issue, because above all else morality matters in this particular issue, right? Just like morality matters in the abortion issue? Let's speak of the morality of breaking the law to get what an individual wants. The infighting political war for power (Red vs Blue); destructive riots, abortion, "education", etc. This country is far from moral about anything--yet you set yourself up as judge over those who are against human trafficking, etc. as being less moral than those who want to free criminals who also happen to be here illegally. It's a war for political power, and every single citizen is more or less on the sidelines watching it play out.

 

[Mashmont]

Maybe you should check with the Pope.

Pope calls treatment of migrants in U.S. 'extremely disrespectful'

Pope Leo XIV said the U.S. bishops' special pastoral message on immigration is "a very important statement. I would invite especially all Catholics, but peop...

www.usccb.org

Insisting that the dignity of all people, including immigrants, must be respected, Pope Leo XIV asked U.S. Catholics and "people of goodwill" to read and listen to the U.S. bishops' recent pastoral message on the topic.

"When people are living good lives -- and many of them (in the United States) for 10, 15, 20 years -- to treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful, to say the least," is not acceptable, the pope said Nov. 18.

Meeting reporters outside his villa in Castel Gandolfo, Pope Leo was asked what he thought of the "special pastoral message on immigration" approved overwhelmingly by members of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Nov. 12.



I kind of liked when politics were still civil.

Curiously, the pope does not mention the people who illegally came to America or those who have committed violent crimes. He does not mention sex trafficking or drug trafficking that accompanies Democrats' open borders policy. We also know the leftwing media leaves out a pope's remarks that disagree with its agenda. Most devout Catholics I know distinguish between legals and illegals. Legals should be protected unless they are abetting illegals. There is no evidence Trump has done otherwise.