Zone1 Pastor: They’re Not Deceived – Trump Evangelicals Are CHOOSING the Lies

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well according to @rightwinger following the Bible's rules about adultery means we should be consistent and also shun homosexuals.

He is correct.

But I am glad you are a cafeteria Christian.

It's quite superior to the alternative.

 

[SweetSue92]

He is correct.

But I am glad you are a cafeteria Christian.

It's quite superior to the alternative.

If I don't vote for a sinner, who am I going to vote for?

Jesus Christ is not on the ballot.

Honest to Pete, the absolute judgmental PURITANS you all are....the kids hate it, that's why they're become conservative.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If I don't vote for a sinner, who am I going to vote for?

Agreed. Again, I like your attitude.

When you take the next step and realize sin is a fake, magical, childish, primitive concept... even better.

 

[Mac1958]

I've noticed that several of the Trumpster responses has been something like "who else would I vote for?" or "Christianity is conservative, so I vote for the more conservative candidate".

What they don't realize is that they're illustrating the pastor's point.

His question is, at what cost?

If that simple question is confusing, then there's nothing either he or I can say.

 

[SweetSue92]

Agreed. Again, I like your attitude.

When you take the next step and realize sin is a fake, magical, childish, primitive concept... even better.

From your worldview then there is absolutely nothing wrong with Donald being an adulterer.

Glad we got that sorted.

 

[SweetSue92]

I've noticed that several of the Trumpster responses has been something like "who else would I vote for?" or "Christianity is conservative, so I vote for the more conservative candidate".

What they don't realize is that they're illustrating the pastor's point.

His question is, at what cost?

If that simple question is confusing, then there's nothing either he or I can say.

Moses was a murderer.

David was an adulterer.

Jacob cheated his brother.

OMG no one read the Bible, those people were sinners and I need my fainting couch.....

Mac in this thread, along with every other liberal:

 

[SweetSue92]

I've noticed that several of the Trumpster responses has been something like "who else would I vote for?" or "Christianity is conservative, so I vote for the more conservative candidate".

What they don't realize is that they're illustrating the pastor's point.

His question is, at what cost?

If that simple question is confusing, then there's nothing either he or I can say.

Mac you don't even read what I post anymore, your mind is completely closed off because you consider me a "Trumpster".

Good luck coming back from your intractable mental disease

 

[August West]

Imagine being so infected by TDS that you give up preaching about Jesus Christ and can only rail on a man you have never met, will never meet, and would laugh at your railing.

OH, do we have one of these here? Or many? Yes, yes we do.

Do you think Jesus Christ was cheering you on when Republicans beat up 140 cops? Perhaps a day will come when you can defend your convicted felon without that childish TDS crap. I know, it`s easy for Trump`s trash to spell.

 

[rightwinger]

Well according to rightwinger following the Bible's rules about adultery means we should be consistent and also shun homosexuals.

So no Christian should vote for, say, Pete Buttegieg because he's gay.

Wow, that was easy

PS I would vote for a gay conservative because "what he does in the bedroom does not impact his job"....hey remember when you all said these things? HAHAHA

We are talking about the vote of evangelical Christians
And no, they would not support Peter Buttengeig

But why throw your support to a blatant sinner like Trump when you have a sincere Christian like Mike Pence

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

From your worldview then there is absolutely nothing wrong with Donald being an adulterer.

Not true, and the fact that you have to craft these strawman to have anything to say speaks to your intellectual ca0abikity.

No, you see, i have morals and ethics that I have reasoned out. These are clearly much better than your magically dictated morals that you toss aside, whenever it suits you to do so.

 

[Quantrill]

We are talking about the vote of evangelical Christians
And no, they would not support Peter Buttengeig

But why throw your support to a blatant sinner like Trump when you have a sincere Christian like Mike Pence

Because we are not voting based upon whether or not a man is a sinner or not. Or whether or not a man is a 'sincere Christian', what ever that is. We vote based upon what we believe the man can do for the country. And Christians are most always 'conservative' and thus we commonly vote for a conservative.

Our choice between 'conservatives' is based again, what we believe the man can do for the country. And he, Trump, is doing it. We know he's doing it because it pisses people like you off.

Pence on the other hand, stabbed Trump in the back. No other word for it. Is he Christian, I suppose so. But he still stabbed Trump in the back. And Pence is a sinner also. What a news bulletin that is? I wonder if he ever thinks of Judas Iscariot?

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Pence on the other hand, stabbed Trump in the back. No other word for it. Is he Christian, I suppose so. But he still stabbed Trump in the back. And Pence is a sinner also. What a news bulletin that is? I wonder if he ever thinks of Judas Iscariot?

Odd logic
Pence “stabbed Trump in the back”?

When it was Trump who did nothing while an angry mob he had sent was seeking to “hang Mike Pence”

Trump never even enquired to see if Pence was safe

 

[0311]

Not true, and the fact that you have to craft these strawman to have anything to say speaks to your intellectual ca0abikity.

No, you see, i have morals and ethics that I have reasoned out. These are clearly much better than your magically dictated morals that you toss aside, whenever it suits you to do so.

SS, like most so-called "Christians" on this forum have transactional beliefs. They use them when they want to and ignore them when they don't need them. She needs to remember that Yeshua fed the hungry, healed the sick and kicked the money lenders out of the temple.

 

[SweetSue92]

Do you think Jesus Christ was cheering you on when Republicans beat up 140 cops? Perhaps a day will come when you can defend your convicted felon without that childish TDS crap. I know, it`s easy for Trump`s trash to spell.

What on earth are you talking about? "beat up" 140 cops?

 

[SweetSue92]

We are talking about the vote of evangelical Christians
And no, they would not support Peter Buttengeig

But why throw your support to a blatant sinner like Trump when you have a sincere Christian like Mike Pence

Are you for real?

Seriously....really?

You think this is how Christians determine every day decisions? "There's a REALLY great baker in town, but I'm not sure about her religion, so I'll use the one-star baker who is a Christian...."

Your trolling has gone from bad to worse.....

 

[Rawley]

One of the most disturbing and difficult-to-understand things about this whole period -- perhaps THE most disturbing and difficult-to-understand thing -- for many of us across the political spectrum, Left to Right, is the way evangelicals have supported this vulgar, dishonest, divisive, cruel, awful man. How can they do this, how can they justify this? The Christians in my family who are horrified by what they're seeing are still wrestling with this question.

This is a retired pastor who, in his characteristically calm and civil way, tries to help us understand what is happening here. He doesn't think these people are "stupid". He has a very interesting take, and for those who are interested in this important question, you might find it to be an interesting use of 20 minutes.

Do you usually let your Pastor/Priest/Rabbi/Imam decide who you will vote for?

 

[rightwinger]

Are you for real?

Seriously....really?

You think this is how Christians determine every day decisions? "There's a REALLY great baker in town, but I'm not sure about her religion, so I'll use the one-star baker who is a Christian...."

Your trolling has gone from bad to worse.....

If you are sincere about your moral values, then YES I expect you to vote that way.

Remember when evangelicals used to call themselves the Moral Majority?

They lost that right

 

[Rawley]

It does when you have the option of a true Christian who sincerely follows the Bible in Mike Pence

No one ever had the chance to vote for Pence

 

[0311]

Does SS, like the other so-called "Christians" remember that the early "Christians" were also very Socialist? Yeshua was a Socialist as well. They tend those facts.

 

[rightwinger]

No one ever had the chance to vote for Pence

He ran in the primaries