Zone1 Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

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Is the Sermon on the Mount to liberal now? What do Evangelicals think of Jesus's greatest teaching?

Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had...

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Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'​

Brad Reed
August 9, 2023, 8:53 AM ET

Jesus Christ and Donald Trump (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com, Gage Skidmore/Flickr)





Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.


In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had told him disturbing stories about their congregants being upset when they read from the famous "Sermon on the Mount" in which Christ espoused the principles of forgiveness and mercy as central to Christian doctrine.

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — 'turn the other cheek' — [and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore revealed. "And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ,' the response would not be, 'I apologize.' The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.'"

Rawstory? Pass

 

[Arlette]

Rawstory? Pass

You were already outed as a fake Christian

 

[Mac-7]

Is the Sermon on the Mount to liberal now? What do Evangelicals think of Jesus's greatest teaching?

Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had...

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Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'​

Brad Reed
August 9, 2023, 8:53 AM ET

Jesus Christ and Donald Trump (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com, Gage Skidmore/Flickr)





Evangelical Christian leader Russell Moore revealed this week that many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.


In an interview with NPR, Moore said that multiple pastors had told him disturbing stories about their congregants being upset when they read from the famous "Sermon on the Mount" in which Christ espoused the principles of forgiveness and mercy as central to Christian doctrine.

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — 'turn the other cheek' — [and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore revealed. "And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ,' the response would not be, 'I apologize.' The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.'"

It all depends on the context

Is the pastor telling his congregation to turn the other cheek when black militants and ANTIFA wackos burn down their city?

Is it your policy that Jesus wants open borders and millions of illegal aliens entering the country?

There are plenty of bad preachers who use the Bible to further their own personal ideas

 

[irosie91]

Look what it cost the Jews to fight the Romans

alls well that ends well. The Roman empire is utterly destroyed and
well -----as someone scratched over the triumphant sculptured relief in
the ARCH OF TITUS----"The nation Israel LIVES" that's approximately
"AM YISRAEL CHAI" Acquiescence to the filth of Rome would have
destroyed Israel---both in the land and in the diaspora ----ASK EZRA whose
family background was IRAQI----just like ITAMAR-----

 

[surada]

It all depends on the context

Is the pastor telling his congregation to turn the other cheek when black militants and ANTIFA wackos burn down their city?

Is that your policy that Jesus wants open borders and millions of illegal aliens entering the country?

There are plenty of bad preachers who use the Bible to further their own personal ideas

Jesus was preaching about the Roman occupation and the oppressive Roman laws.

 

[Mac-7]

Jesus was preaching about the Roman occupation and the oppressive Roman laws.

As with the Idaho teacher on another thread we only have the anti trump pastor’s side of the story

 

[Arlette]

Jesus was preaching about the Roman occupation and the oppressive Roman laws.

We know all that. But what did he say about hungry moochers who want the government cheese?

 

[surada]

We know all that. But what did he say about hungry moochers who want the government cheese?

Nothing at all.

 

[Arlette]

Nothing at all.

Jesus didn't say anything about government cheese and that's why the poor are not entitled to government cheese

 

[Mac-7]

Nothing at all.

Here is what Jesus DIDN’T say:

“If you meet a hungry man on the road to Damascus, form a political action committee and petition Caesar to give him bread”

 

[Arlette]

Here is what Jesus DIDN’T say:

“If you meet a hungry man on the road to Damascus, form a political action committee and petition Caesar to give him bread”

You are a big disappointment to Jesus

 

[Mac-7]

You are a big disappointment to Jesus

Meaning what exactly?

 

[norwegen]

He was addressing oppressive Roman law and coping with it with nonviolent resistance.

Not so. The context is Israelite custom.

You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ (21)​

References are the Decalogue and Deuteronomy 16:18.

Note also that those of old did not include the Romans.

You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ (27)​

See the Decalogue.

It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ (31)​

Reference is Deuteronomy 24:1.

Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.’ (33)​

References are Leviticus 19:12, Numbers 30:2, and Deuteronomy 23:21.

Note also that the Lord was not the Romans’ deity.

You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ (38)​

References are Exodus 21:23-25, Leviticus 24:19-20, and Deuteronomy 19:21.

 

[surada]

Not so. The context is Israelite custom.

You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ (21)​

References are the Decalogue and Deuteronomy 16:18.

Note also that those of old did not include the Romans.

You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ (27)​

See the Decalogue.

It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ (31)​

Reference is Deuteronomy 24:1.

Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.’ (33)​

References are Leviticus 19:12, Numbers 30:2, and Deuteronomy 23:21.

Note also that the Lord was not the Romans’ deity.

You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ (38)​

References are Exodus 21:23-25, Leviticus 24:19-20, and Deuteronomy 19:21.

Okay. Have you read A Palestinian Christian Cry for Reconciliation?

 

[norwegen]

You don't get to pick your Jesus. You take what you get - the one in the Bible.

If you're a liberal, you wouldn't like that Jesus. Liberals make a habit of berating him, in whatever fashion they misunderstand him.

 

[norwegen]

Okay. Have you read A Palestinian Christian Cry for Reconciliation?

Irrelevant. I already cited the context.

You yourself once said that the Romans were not even on Israel's radar in the days of old. Christ is referencing the days of old, i.e., not the Romans or their customs.

 

[surada]

Irrelevant. I already cited the context.

You yourself once said that the Romans were not even on Israel's radar in the days of old. Christ is referencing the days of old, i.e., not the Romans or their customs.

The Episcopal church in Palestine teaches the sermon on the mount from the perspective of the Roman occupation.

 

[surada]

Irrelevant. I already cited the context.

You yourself once said that the Romans were not even on Israel's radar in the days of old. Christ is referencing the days of old, i.e., not the Romans or their customs.

What?

 

[norwegen]

The Episcopal church in Palestine teaches the sermon on the mount from the perspective of the Roman occupation.

If it says that Jesus was lambasting Roman occupation in Judea, then it does not. That sermon has nothing to do with Rome.

 

[surada]

If it says that Jesus was lambasting Roman occupation in Judea, then it does not. That sermon has nothing to do with Rome.

Roman law allowed a soldier to demand a Jew carry his pack for a mile.