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US CO2 emissions are down to 1990 levels, while the economy keeps growing.
Hence, another denier talking point faceplants. You know, the one where they say growing emissions are necessary to grow the economy.
U.S. Power Plant Emissions Fall to Near 1990 Levels
US CO2 emissions are down to 1990 levels, while the economy keeps growing.
Hence, another denier talking point faceplants. You know, the one where they say growing emissions are necessary to grow the economy.
U.S. Power Plant Emissions Fall to Near 1990 Levels
You missed the whole point of WHY that emissions reduction was achieved IN SPITE OF a hostile Admin in Washington.. It was NOT a capacity cut -- in fact -- generation capacity INCREASED. It was sheer economic market driven forces.. NOBODY says that "increased emissions are NECESSARY for econ. growth". They are saying simply "CO2 shouldn't be the most important emission" that determines the mix..
US CO2 emissions are down to 1990 levels, while the economy keeps growing.
Hence, another denier talking point faceplants. You know, the one where they say growing emissions are necessary to grow the economy.
U.S. Power Plant Emissions Fall to Near 1990 Levels
You missed the whole point of WHY that emissions reduction was achieved IN SPITE OF a hostile Admin in Washington.. It was NOT a capacity cut -- in fact -- generation capacity INCREASED. It was sheer economic market driven forces.. NOBODY says that "increased emissions are NECESSARY for econ. growth". They are saying simply "CO2 shouldn't be the most important emission" that determines the mix..
Yup. I recently replaced my ~85% efficient boiler and water tank with a 95% efficient heat exchanger. My emissions are down but my need for heating and hot water remain the same.
Unfortunately there are no more 10% efficiency gains to be made in the future.
Bear, when arguing about facts, it helps to actually have some.
US CO2 emissions are down to 1990 levels, while the economy keeps growing.
Hence, another denier talking point faceplants. You know, the one where they say growing emissions are necessary to grow the economy.
U.S. Power Plant Emissions Fall to Near 1990 Levels
You missed the whole point of WHY that emissions reduction was achieved IN SPITE OF a hostile Admin in Washington.. It was NOT a capacity cut -- in fact -- generation capacity INCREASED. It was sheer economic market driven forces.. NOBODY says that "increased emissions are NECESSARY for econ. growth". They are saying simply "CO2 shouldn't be the most important emission" that determines the mix..
Yup. I recently replaced my ~85% efficient boiler and water tank with a 95% efficient heat exchanger. My emissions are down but my need for heating and hot water remain the same.
Unfortunately there are no more 10% efficiency gains to be made in the future.
Lots of "unfortunatelies" here. Depending on WHERE you live, that heat pump is now designed to fail at outdoor temps as high as 25 degs. It WILL heat the house, but with electric(possibly nat gas) heater boosters. And spend MOST of time trying to defrost the coils... Just did a project with a major utility to improve the "efficiency" when the 10KWatt or greater electric heat strips all turn on in a neighborhood when folks get home from work and shove their thermostats back up.. No common sense. No accomodation for how people really USE these products.
Bear, when arguing about facts, it helps to actually have some.
What does your grapgh have to do with cost?
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Bear, when arguing about facts, it helps to actually have some.
What does your grapgh have to do with cost?
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The graph has a lot to do with fracking natural gas, and using it for new generation power plants.
Cost of Wind vs. Fossil Fuels
When comparing the cost of wind vs. fossil fuels its important to consider fuel costs, integration costs, operating costs, and the cost of tax incentives. Wind energy is cost-competitive with fossil fuels, especially coal. In Montana, wind energy is less expensive than coal for NorthWestern Energy–the state’s largest utility. The graph below from the Montana Public Service Commission, compares the costs of various resources in NorthWestern’s portfolio. Judith Gap wind facility is about $47.00/Megawatt-hour (or 4.7 cents/kilowatt-hour) and Colstrip Unit 4 is $68.00/Megawatt-hour or (6.8 cents/kilowatt hour).
Cost of Wind vs. Fossil Fuels - MEIC
The cost of wind and solar continues to decline, even as the cost of coal increases. A losing scene for coal. A winning scene for the citizens of the US.
And sinking.I'm tickled pink by the claim that the "anti-trump alliance is crumbling" with his approval/disapproval ratings at 35% / 65%
Bucking Trump, These Cities, States and Companies Commit to Paris Accord
Representatives of American cities, states and companies are preparing to submit a plan to the United Nations pledging to meet the United States’ greenhouse gas emissions targets under the Paris climate accord, despite President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the agreement.
The unnamed group — which, so far, includes 30 mayors, three governors, more than 80 university presidents and more than 100 businesses — is negotiating with the United Nations to have its submission accepted alongside contributions to the Paris climate deal by other nations.
“We’re going to do everything America would have done if it had stayed committed,” Michael Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor who is coordinating the effort, said in an interview.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/climate/american-cities-climate-standards.html?_r=0
Just because we now have the dumbest son of a bitch every to sit in the Oval Office does not mean that we, the citizens of this great nation, cannot give hime the finger and go our own way. There is nothing at all seditious about cutting our GHG emissions and installing cheaper energy.
"They will do everything they can which is exactly zero"Bucking Trump, These Cities, States and Companies Commit to Paris Accord
Representatives of American cities, states and companies are preparing to submit a plan to the United Nations pledging to meet the United States’ greenhouse gas emissions targets under the Paris climate accord, despite President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the agreement.
The unnamed group — which, so far, includes 30 mayors, three governors, more than 80 university presidents and more than 100 businesses — is negotiating with the United Nations to have its submission accepted alongside contributions to the Paris climate deal by other nations.
“We’re going to do everything America would have done if it had stayed committed,” Michael Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor who is coordinating the effort, said in an interview.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/climate/american-cities-climate-standards.html?_r=0
Just because we now have the dumbest son of a bitch every to sit in the Oval Office does not mean that we, the citizens of this great nation, cannot give hime the finger and go our own way. There is nothing at all seditious about cutting our GHG emissions and installing cheaper energy.
They will do everything they can which is exactly zero.
A group representing $6.2 trillion of the US economy says they're 'still in' the Paris climate agreement
A coalition of US economic, education, and local government leaders announced on Monday they will continue to abide by the Paris agreement regardless of America's withdrawal, forming the We Are Still In movement. The coalition represents 120 million Americans and $6.2 trillion of the US economy.
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In total, the group includes 125 cities, 9 states, 902 businesses and investors, and 183 colleges and universities. Over 20 of the businesses who signed on are Fortune 500 companies.
The group penned an open letter on Monday, stating, "The Trump administration's announcement undermines a key pillar in the fight against climate change and damages the world's ability to avoid the most dangerous and costly effects of climate change. Importantly, it is also out of step with what is happening in the United States."
The group declared it will pursue climate goals, "in the absence of leadership by Washington," adding "it is local and state governments, along with businesses, that are primarily responsible for the dramatic decrease in greenhouse gas emissions in recent years. Actions by each group will multiply and accelerate in the years ahead, no matter what policies Washington may adopt."
A group representing $6.2 trillion of the US economy says they're 'still in' the Paris climate agreement
The people are speaking.
