Parenting Transgender Youth

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I strongly believe that "transgender" is a mental disorder and not a "physical" one. It is pretty much the same as anorexia, as the Chief Psychiatrist at John Hopkins states. That makes perfect sense. You are not "born" into the wrong body. Your body is your body. These people need therapy to learn how to accept what they are and what they were born as. Cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy can be dangerous. Why would you do this to a perfectly physically healthy person? Their problem is psychiatric, like anorexia.

I provided you with information debunking your Chief Psychiatrist. You ignored it.

You aren't interested in objectively looking at the issue, you are interested in confirming your own bias.

Noted. :thup:

I don't believe your links because the doctor makes perfect sense, unlike your "ideas." They are just silly! Lol.

You remain a moron.

I think that would be you for buying into the PC nonsense. Lol. :D Obviously, you are born what you are born as. It is a dysfunction of the mind, not the body. The mind needs therapy, not the body.
 
okay i was corrected...this is female to male....o hell no.....the hormones are way too much at that age......do any of you remember being 17, i made a lot of bad decisions at that age.....o my my my
 
having read off 8 prior pages.....first no one should be forced to live in a body that does not match their mental stage....why do people have such a negative reaction to someone modifying their bodies to suit themselves? we do it all the time....people saying its unnatural to modify need to think about the far reaching way that could be taken.....are we wrong to have corrective surgeries?

hormone blocking .....can be carried to extremes....and does have permanent consequences....this line of doing it now if better for them in the long run....i am not sure about this....i think right now all these fancy doctors may be experimenting with kids...esp the hormone specialist....what doctor doesnt want to be 'ground breaking' in their field and it beats the hell outta dealing with diabetics...

as a parent...my son flew thru stages......at 3 or 4 he picked up a doll and fell in love with her...named her and carried her everywhere he went for maybe a year or more....there was no reason to be upset over that....she would sit in his tonka truck while he build his mall...and the teen years...they are just harder to love.....the piercings....ears and nipples....grumpy began to get a wee bit upset at this stage....and then the goth stage....black finger nail polish and smoking pot in a dark room dressed in black thinking they are unique.....those were hard years ....there were the religious years.....drinking heavy and partying year and half at college....that did not go well......so now he is 20ish and all....suddenly his begins to mature....and begins to settle down.....the piercings are gone......still only the one tattoo....a red dragon...how original ...sorry i digress...easily....

my point being...he is none of those now..they were just weird stages he went thru.....and i as a parent feel its just our duty to get them thru those weird ass stages....without any permanent damage....even when they wanted to do surgery on his shoulder...i declined....it was something that could be put off....so i did....i figure if i have to signed for permission...other than the damned drivers license and minor issues like that......it can wait till he is an adult....17 is not nearly old enough to decide something of this magnitude ....

teenagers tend to be 'trendy' and the worse part...they are grasping with the ability to think abstractly.....not always a good thing...17 is too late for the blockers..and i think in my layman opinion too early for the trans....has he had any surgery...top? i mean this cannot be reversed..

can you not accept him and get him to accept himself for a while......you see accepting as helping him trans.....i think it is way too early...there are not enough long term studies on how people who start this young do....again i think they are victims of doctors trying new things...a lot of the time...

and there is a lot of money in this....the top surgery and the bottom surgery runs 1000s....start with old school and adams apple shave

I would seek therapy for my child to help him or her deal with the psychological issues if my child thought "he" was a girl. Obviously there is a problem here with the brain and not the body. The surgery itself can be dangerous too, high risk for infections, failure rate, never being able to have children, and the list goes on. The hormonal therapy is largely unknown when starting it during "pubertal" stages. We do know that it can cause bone brittleness and cancer though.
 
Leave it to Pills to freak out and resort to juvenile name-calling. :D Lol.

No one is freaking out. I've just stopped trying to teach a pig to dance.
 
It's totally NORMAL for children to be confused about "sexuality" and things like that. I'm sure many children who were sexually abused (or perhaps any type of abuse) would be confused about their true "gender." They make terrible decisions. They are "impulsive" decision makers and take many unnecessary risks. I'll be willing to bet that a lot of them would do things like "dress like a girl" for attention. Some people (especially those with mental disorders) will do almost anything to get the attention they crave or the attention they did not receive as small children. Their frontal lobes are not yet functioning, and that is something else to keep in mind. They are not yet capable of "critical thinking" skills which is why they are impulsive and risk takers.
 
Many "parents" are the abusers, keep that in mind. So, what does "parental consent" really mean? I'm sure there is something buried in these children's minds that makes them confused as to their gender identity. They feel uncomfortable in their own skin for a damn reason, not because they were "born" thinking they were opposite gender. That is silly beyond belief. The only people who would believe this are extremists.
 
The “Transsexual” Delusion

The word “transsexual” implies that the person is in process of or has made a transition between the two sexes. It is impossible, however, to transition from one sex to the other. The only transition possible for a person who believes that he or she is “transsexual” is from a whole person to a person with a mutilated body.

Transsexuality is presented as the conviction that one has been born into the wrong body – that while the body is one sex, the brain is the other. It follows that this “mistake” can be corrected with surgery and hormones, so that the “transsexual” person can live as a member of the desired sex rather than his or her birth sex. Since there is no scientific evidence to back up the belief a person’s body can be one sex and their brain the other, transsexuality may be characterized as a delusion. The general criteria for a delusion are:

  • certainty (it is held with absolute conviction);
  • incorrigibility (it is not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary);
  • impossibility or falsity of content (the belief is implausible, bizarre or patently untrue).
The transsexual delusion (TD) leads to sexual identity dysphoria – a profound unhappiness with the biological reality. Transsexuals insist since that they can’t change their brain, the only way to alleviate their dysphoria is to surgically alter their bodies. They become obsessed with the idea of surgery and are willing to make tremendous sacrifices in order to obtain this solution – including alienation from family, loss of career, substantial expenses, and considerable pain. Given our knowledge of neural plasticity, it is certainly possible that the brain could be altered to relieve much of the dysphoria associated with the transsexual delusion, however, persons experiencing a transsexual delusion generally resist therapy. The availability of surgery convinces them that their perception of reality is true and that all they need to do is to persevere. They become extremely anxious when their desire for surgery is delayed or frustrated. They can become angry to the point of narcissistic rage when their delusion is challenged, as illustrated by the vicious attacks by surgically altered men on J. Michael Bailey, author of The Man Who Would Be Queen.[1]

Delusions are often encapsulated, that is they affect only one part of life. The rest of the persons’ lives and their ability to think logically may not be affected, although eventually the delusion may lead them to make tremendous sacrifices to sustain their view of reality.

Is the belief that one was born in the wrong body implausible or patently untrue? Yes.

  1. Every cell of the body of a person claiming to be “transsexual” contains DNA that is clearly marked male or female. The DNA in the brain is the same as the DNA in the rest of the body. The transsexual community has tried to associate its claim to have been born in the wrong body with the situation of persons with genetic disorders and Sexual Development Disorders, however, persons claiming to be transsexual are virtually always genetically and physical healthy, normal males or females.
  2. There is no evidence of a genetic cause for the transsexual desires. There are reported cases of identical twins where one was transsexual and the other wasn’t. The hormones that trigger the development of the sexual organs also affect the brain and create subtle but real differences between the sexes. There is no evidence for “prenatal hormones affected the brain but not the body” theory.
  3. While transsexuals insist that they have the brains of their desired sex, in fact many of their behaviors resemble their actual sex. For example, the sexual activity pattern of transsexuals with same-sex attraction (SSA) is similar to that of other men with SSA – the desire for many partners and willingness to engage in anonymous and uncommitted sexual relationships. Another type of transsexuality — autogynephilia, (a man who is in love with the image of himself as a woman) — is categorized as a paraphilia. Paraphilias are found predominantly in males. In addition, autogynephilias are predominantly attracted to women, and some insist that they are lesbians, when the more obvious explanation is that they are men who have retained their masculine attraction to women, even though they have been surgically altered to resemble women.
  4. Male transsexuals have a stereotyped and inaccurate understanding of what it means to be a woman.
  5. SSA transsexuals insist that have always felt like the other sex. While the feelings of alienation from the actual birth sex may have begun in early child, this can be explained by interactions between the child and family members. Small boys who are considered effeminate or girlish do not, in fact, resemble girls of the same age. For example, girls have expansive interests and are capable of wearing dresses or jeans, playing with dolls or in the sandbox, playing games outside or inside. In contrast to this, these “girlish” boys are uncomfortable with boyish clothing, rough-and-tumble play, and in general limited in their range of activities. In addiction, many of these boys have other psychological problems.
  6. Surgery does not change a person’s sex. Surgeons can simulate the appearance of the external sexual organs of the other sex, but they cannot make the simulated organs reproductively functional.
  7. Surgery destroys the possibility of future fertility. The willingness to surrender one’s potential fertility as though it were nothing points to the power of the transsexual delusion.
  8. The transsexual delusion is a denial of the unity of the human person.
  9. The surgical solution may be a fad, comparable to psychiatry’s embrace of frontal lobotomies or raising genetic boys with genital deformities as girls. This too may in time be recognized as unethical mutilation. There has already been a change in attitudes among “sexual minorities” even in the last decade. Many teenagers who are confused about sexual identity and attractions are choosing to be identify as “Gender Queer.” Rejecting identification as one sex or the other, they move between the sexes or present themselves as something in between. It is difficult to say what they will choose when they grow up, but it is possible that as sexual stereotypes become less pervasive, surgery may become as less popular. Partial solutions (that is, women who do undergo breast removal or hysterectomies but do not choose to have a pseudo penis and testicles, or men who have breast implants but retain their genitals) are also becoming more popular.
 
I think it's just as bad as encouraging your child to have any other cosmetic surgery. It can also be dangerous. You have to learn to accept yourself for what you are.
No, because sex drive is imposed on you, whether you like it or not. And after that, you have to follow the role your genitals assign on you, or you will not be accepted and end up like a reject freak, forever. Even the biggest bully can take that only for so long.
 
I think it's just as bad as encouraging your child to have any other cosmetic surgery. It can also be dangerous. You have to learn to accept yourself for what you are.
No, because sex drive is imposed on you, whether you like it or not. And after that, you have to follow the role your genitals assign on you, or you will not be accepted and end up like a reject freak, forever. Even the biggest bully can take that only for so long.

Then you go get yourself some psychiatric help to deal with who you are. You aren't going to magically become the opposite sex just because you wish it to be the case. Wishes are like buttholes, everyone has one.
 
Chris--

Do you know any transgender human beings or is your opinion intellectual only?

Dhara
 
I think it's just as bad as encouraging your child to have any other cosmetic surgery. It can also be dangerous. You have to learn to accept yourself for what you are.
No, because sex drive is imposed on you, whether you like it or not. And after that, you have to follow the role your genitals assign on you, or you will not be accepted and end up like a reject freak, forever. Even the biggest bully can take that only for so long.

Then you go get yourself some psychiatric help to deal with who you are. You aren't going to magically become the opposite sex just because you wish it to be the case. Wishes are like buttholes, everyone has one.
I think it is worse. From science, it looks that there are two separate parts of the neuro system that deal with desires, sexual or other. One part is responsible for the desire for something, and it is a separate part that is responsible for getting satisfaction and thereby balance the desire. If these two parts are not matched, you get either a passive person, or an unsatisfiable bully. The transgender psychology is widely observed to fall in the second category.
 
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I think it's just as bad as encouraging your child to have any other cosmetic surgery. It can also be dangerous. You have to learn to accept yourself for what you are.
No, because sex drive is imposed on you, whether you like it or not. And after that, you have to follow the role your genitals assign on you, or you will not be accepted and end up like a reject freak, forever. Even the biggest bully can take that only for so long.

Then you go get yourself some psychiatric help to deal with who you are. You aren't going to magically become the opposite sex just because you wish it to be the case. Wishes are like buttholes, everyone has one.
I think it is worse. From science, it looks that there are two separate parts of the neuro system that deal with desires, sexual or other. One part is responsible for the desire for something, and it is a separate part that is responsible for getting satisfaction and thereby balance the desire. If these two parts are not matched, you get either a passive person, or an unsatisfiable bully. The transgender psychology is widely observed to fall in the second category.

Post a link to a reputable site please.
 
Do you want to look at the other side of this Chris? Or is any parent who agrees to let their child start hormone therapy abusive?
 
I think it's just as bad as encouraging your child to have any other cosmetic surgery. It can also be dangerous. You have to learn to accept yourself for what you are.
No, because sex drive is imposed on you, whether you like it or not. And after that, you have to follow the role your genitals assign on you, or you will not be accepted and end up like a reject freak, forever. Even the biggest bully can take that only for so long.

Then you go get yourself some psychiatric help to deal with who you are. You aren't going to magically become the opposite sex just because you wish it to be the case. Wishes are like buttholes, everyone has one.
I think it is worse. From science, it looks that there are two separate parts of the neuro system that deal with desires, sexual or other. One part is responsible for the desire for something, and it is a separate part that is responsible for getting satisfaction and thereby balance the desire. If these two parts are not matched, you get either a passive person, or an unsatisfiable bully. The transgender psychology is widely observed to fall in the second category.

Post a link to a reputable site please.
You mean one that is not trained with the stupid anglosaxon LGBT propaganda that homosexuality is not a decease? I was trying the scientific approach.
 
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