Parenting Transgender Youth

[ChrisL]

Dr. Paul McHugh is an anti-transgender bigot. He is not a credible source on the subject.

Meet The Doctor Social Conservatives Depend On To Justify Anti-Transgender Hate

I'll take his word over the PC crowd who is afraid to "hurt feelings" and justifies mutilating healthy bodies, when it is biologically impossible for these people to ever become what they want to be. Obviously, it is a body dysmorphic syndrome and needs psychiatric treatment and not cosmetic surgery and dangerous hormones for treatment.

 

[ChrisL]

From the link above . . .

The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”

 

[pillars]

Dr. Paul McHugh is an anti-transgender bigot. He is not a credible source on the subject.

Meet The Doctor Social Conservatives Depend On To Justify Anti-Transgender Hate

I'll take his word over the PC crowd who is afraid to "hurt feelings" and justifies mutilating healthy bodies, when it is biologically impossible for these people to ever become what they want to be. Obviously, it is a body dysmorphic syndrome and needs psychiatric treatment and not cosmetic surgery and dangerous hormones for treatment.

How much do you know about McHugh, whose word you are taking?

McHugh is also known for filing an amicus curiae brief in Hollingsworth v. Perry, asserting that homosexuality is a choice, as well as for his participation of the campaign against Kansas abortion provider Dr George Tiller– who was murdered in 2009 by a anti-abortion activist.

Do you also agree with McHugh that homosexuality is a choice, and that abortion should be outlawed?

I'm wondering exactly why you find him so credible on transgender issues, in light of the above.

Just curious.

 

[ChrisL]

Gender Ideology Harms Children

The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female. Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident. The exceedingly rare disorders of sex development (DSDs), including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm, and are rightly recognized as disorders of human design. Individuals with DSDs do not constitute a third sex.1

2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one. No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child’s subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women.2,3,4

3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria (GD), formerly listed as Gender Identity Disorder (GID), is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).5 The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved.2,4,5

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

 

[ChrisL]

Psychiatry expert: ‘scientifically there is no such thing as transgender’

OTTAWA, January 11, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A prominent Toronto psychiatrist has severely criticized the assumptions underlying what has been dubbed by critics as the Canadian federal government's "bathroom bill," that is, Bill C-279, a private member’s bill that would afford special protection to so-called "transgender" men and women.

Dr. Joseph Berger has issued a statement saying that from a medical and scientific perspective there is no such thing as a "transgendered" person, and that terms such as “gender expression” and “gender identity" used in the bill are at the very least ambiguous, and are more an emotional appeal than a statement of scientific fact.

Berger, who is a consulting psychiatrist in Toronto and whose list of credentials establishes him as an expert in the field of mental illness, stated that people who identify themselves as "transgendered" are mentally ill or simply unhappy, and pointed out that hormone therapy and surgery are not appropriate treatments for psychosis or unhappiness.

"From a scientific perspective, let me clarify what ‘transgendered’ actually means," Dr. Berger said, adding, "I am speaking now about the scientific perspective – and not any political lobbying position that may be proposed by any group, medical or non-medical."

"‘Transgendered’ are people who claim that they really are or wish to be people of the sex opposite to which they were born, or to which their chromosomal configuration attests," Dr. Berger stated.

"Some times, some of these people have claimed that they are ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ or alternatively ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’."

"The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery," Dr. Berger stated.

"On the other hand," Dr. Berger continued, "if these people are asked to clarify exactly what they believe, that is to say do they truly believe whichever of those above propositions applies to them and they say ‘no’, then they know that such a proposition is not true, but that they ‘feel’ it, then what we are talking about scientifically, is just unhappiness, and that unhappiness is being accompanied by a wish – that leads some people into taking hormones that predominate in the other sex, and even having cosmetic surgery designed to make them ‘appear’ as if they are a person of the opposite sex."

He explained that cosmetic surgery will not change the chromosomes of a human being in that it will not make a man become a woman, capable of menstruating, ovulating, and having children, nor will it make a woman into a man, capable of generating sperm that can unite with an egg or ovum from a woman and fertilize that egg to produce a human child.

Moreover, Dr. Berger stated that the arguments put forward by those advocating for special rights for gender confused people have no scientific value and are subjective and emotional appeals with no objective scientific basis.

"I have read the brief put forward by those advocating special rights, and I find nothing of scientific value in it," Dr. Berger said in his statement. "Words and phrases, such as 'the inner space,' are used that have no objective scientific basis."

"These are the scientific facts," Dr. Berger said. "There seems to me to be no medical or scientific reason to grant any special rights or considerations to people who are unhappy with the sex they were born into, or to people who wish to dress in the clothes of the opposite sex."

"The so-called ‘confusion’ about their sexuality that a teenager or adult has is purely psychological. As a psychiatrist, I see no reason for people who identify themselves in these ways to have any rights or privileges different from everyone else in Canada," he concluded.

 

[PredFan]

Yeah if you have a transgender son or daughter, you have already failed as a parent.

 

[pillars]

Gender Ideology Harms Children

The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female. Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident. The exceedingly rare disorders of sex development (DSDs), including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm, and are rightly recognized as disorders of human design. Individuals with DSDs do not constitute a third sex.1

2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one. No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child’s subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women.2,3,4

3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria (GD), formerly listed as Gender Identity Disorder (GID), is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).5 The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved.2,4,5

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

You aren't as smart as you think you are. You're linking to a hate group masquerading as a legit organization.

The American College of Pediatricians (ACP), which utilizes the totally convincing slogan “Best for Children,” has issued a new position statement claiming that respecting transgender children’s identities causes them harm and conservative groups are already latching onto it.

If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because it’s a claim completely refuted by all available scientific evidence. It’s also because the ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its name is designed to be mistaken for the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200 members, and it has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBT positions

Hate Group Masquerading As Pediatricians Attacks Transgender Youth

Here's what the American Academy of Pediatrics, a legit medical organization with over 6,000 members, says about gender non-conforming and transgender children:

Gender Non-Conforming & Transgender Children

Research suggest that children who are persistent, consistent, and insistent about their gender identity are the ones who are most likely to become transgender adults. It is important support and follow the lead of the child. This may mean you will not have an answer for quite a long time, which can be very difficult for parents. Here are some examples:

• If your teenager has identified as a different gender since early childhood, it is unlikely he or she will change his or her mind. A 12-year-old male who has consistently asserted, "I am a girl," since the age of three, will most likely remain transgender throughout life.
• Sometimes a young child who strongly identifies with another gender does change. The most common time for this to occur is about 9 or 10-years-old. There is not enough research to know if this change means the child has learned to hide his or her true self due to social pressures, or if it was indeed "just a childhood phase."
• Puberty is another time when a child's gender identify can come into question. Sometimes teens who never exhibited anything outside the norm in their gender expression or identity, may start feeling differently as their bodies change. Finding out your teen is transgender can be very confusing for parents who "didn't see this coming." Many are unsure if it is just a "teenage phase" or their child is really transgender. It may be helpful to allow your teen to explore their gender identity with support from a counselor or therapist who has experience supporting transgender youth.

 

[ChrisL]

WORLD | Pediatricians’ group: Transgender kids need help, not new hormones | Julie Borg | March 25, 2016

The American College of Pediatricians (ACP) has issued a statement urging educators and legislators to reject all policies that encourage chemical or surgical gender reassignment for children. The ACP is a socially conservative, national medical association of pediatricians and health care providers not affiliated with the larger American Academy of Pediatrics.

The ACP has been inundated with emails from professionals supporting its stance, said the group’s president, Michelle Cretella. But liberal, LGBT-supporting publications such as Think Progress, have accused the ACP of being a hate group attacking transgender youth.

“We are not encouraging hate,” Cretella insists. The ACP statement reflects its members’ concern that parents and schools are inflicting harm on gender-confused children by encouraging them to seek medical interventions that often place them on life-long, risky hormone treatment and starts them on a path that eventually leads to mutilating their otherwise healthy bodies to re-assign gender.

Instead, Cretella believes, gender-confused children should be treated for the underlying problem of gender dysphoria, a diagnosable condition listed in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association.

“These children are coming to health care providers for help and we should be looking at the underlying foundational matter, not reinforcing their disconnect from reality. To ignore that is, in a sense, criminal,” Cretella said.

Paul McHugh, a psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins University, believes it is never appropriate to put young people through sex-change surgery.

“We can help them if we begin to explore with them and their families what they’re fearing about development, what they’re fearing about being a young boy, a young adolescent appropriate to themselves,” he told Fox News.

According the the ACP statement, gender re-assignment for children involves the use of puberty-blocking hormones that inhibit growth and fertility, essentially inducing disease.

But puberty is not a disease, Cretella explained. It is a critical time period of physical development, bone growth, and brain maturation. If doctors arrest puberty hormones for any amount of time, it robs the child’s brain of normal hormonal exposure during a critical period. Scientists have no idea what the long-term implications of that could be, she said. And children who eventually go through gender reassignment will require life-long use of cross-sex hormones, either testosterone or estrogen.

It’s too early for longitudinal studies to speak to the long-term safety of these medications, but the risks, such as high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke, and cancer, are well-documented in their use treating other conditions.

“We have no idea what the risks are in giving these hormones to children for the rest of their lives. We are using these children as an experiment,” Cretella said.

According to a well-known 2011 Swedish study, not only are adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery at significantly greater risk for cardiovascular disease, and possibly cancer, but the rates of suicide are 20 times greater for these individuals than their heterosexual peers. LGBT groups attribute the increased suicide risk to society’s negative attitude toward them, but Cretella doesn’t believe that’s a factor because the study was conducted in Sweden, one of the most LGBT-affirming countries in the world.

And often, no treatment is necessary. According to the ACP, gender confusion in childhood usually rectifies itself. As many as 98 percent of gender-confused boys, and 88 percent of gender-confused girls, will accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty, the pediatricians wrote.

“Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse,” the statement said.

 

[ChrisL]

Gender Ideology Harms Children

The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female. Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident. The exceedingly rare disorders of sex development (DSDs), including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm, and are rightly recognized as disorders of human design. Individuals with DSDs do not constitute a third sex.1

2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one. No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child’s subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women.2,3,4

3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria (GD), formerly listed as Gender Identity Disorder (GID), is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).5 The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved.2,4,5

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

You aren't as smart as you think you are. You're linking to hate groups masquerading as legit organizations.

The American College of Pediatricians (ACP), which utilizes the totally convincing slogan “Best for Children,” has issued a new position statement claiming that respecting transgender children’s identities causes them harm and conservative groups are already latching onto it.

If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because it’s a claim completely refuted by all available scientific evidence. It’s also because the ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its name is designed to be mistaken for the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200 members, and it has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBT positions

Hate Group Masquerading As Pediatricians Attacks Transgender Youth

Here's what the American Academy of Pediatrics, a legit medical organization with over 6,000 members, says about gender non-conforming and transgender children:

Gender Non-Conforming & Transgender Children

Research suggest that children who are persistent, consistent, and insistent about their gender identity are the ones who are most likely to become transgender adults. It is important support and follow the lead of the child. This may mean you will not have an answer for quite a long time, which can be very difficult for parents. Here are some examples:

• If your teenager has identified as a different gender since early childhood, it is unlikely he or she will change his or her mind. A 12-year-old male who has consistently asserted, "I am a girl," since the age of three, will most likely remain transgender throughout life.
• Sometimes a young child who strongly identifies with another gender does change. The most common time for this to occur is about 9 or 10-years-old. There is not enough research to know if this change means the child has learned to hide his or her true self due to social pressures, or if it was indeed "just a childhood phase."
• Puberty is another time when a child's gender identify can come into question. Sometimes teens who never exhibited anything outside the norm in their gender expression or identity, may start feeling differently as their bodies change. Finding out your teen is transgender can be very confusing for parents who "didn't see this coming." Many are unsure if it is just a "teenage phase" or their child is really transgender. It may be helpful to allow your teen to explore their gender identity with support from a counselor or therapist who has experience supporting transgender youth.

Sorry, but the assessments that these children need hormones and surgery to treat an obvious mental disorder just do not make sense.

 

[ChrisL]

It's not "hate" to be concerned when people encourage these children to try to masquerade as something they will never be, using mutilation and dangerous techniques that are largely unstudied as to the long term effects. They need to be able to accept who and what they are. They need therapy, not surgery and hormones.

 

[ChrisL]

It's feeding a dangerous delusion.

 

[pillars]

Search American College of Pediatricians, ChrisL. They are not a legit source, they are a hate group.

The American College of Pediatricians versus the American Academy of Pediatrics: Who leads and who follows?

They favor abstinence over sex education. They oppose abortion. They oppose gay marriage.

That's your source.

Here's some more information about them:]

Phony Medical Group Attempting to Peddle Anti-Gay Propaganda to Schools
Researchers and Physicians: The Religious Right Distorts Our LGBT Research!

 

[pillars]

And this story is the best...

The Failure of Cable News to Follow Up

In case you missed it, The American College of Pediatricians made national news this year after one of its chief activists, Dr. George Rekers, was caught vacationing with an escort he met on Rent Boy.com. Only weeks before the scandal, this hypocritical group sent a letter to every public school superintendent in the nation. The pseudo-scientific letter condemned homosexuality and referred school officials to an anti-gay website, “Facts About Youth”, that was packed with junk science.

The website cherry picked quotes from legitimate researchers, including University of Minnesota scientist Dr. Gary Remafedi, who charged that the American College of Pediatricians was “knowingly misrepresenting research findings”.

Of course, this is no surprise. The American College of Pediatricians is a small, anti-gay sham group that purposely tries to confuse itself with the credible American Academy of Pediatrics. The American College of Pediatricians is run by politically-motivated charlatans that do not produce peer review research on LGBT people. Meanwhile, The American Academy of Pediatrics is a group of legitimate researchers that actually do produce respected peer review science on homosexuality.

Citing the American College of Pediatricians on homosexuality is like citing the cigarette lobby on the health benefits of smoking. Of course, Tony Perkins knows this, yet he was still sleazy and dishonest enough to cite the group, proving SPLC’s original point that FRC’s misrepresents the facts in an ugly effort to demonize LGBT people.

 

[ChrisL]

I strongly believe that "transgender" is a mental disorder and not a "physical" one. It is pretty much the same as anorexia, as the Chief Psychiatrist at John Hopkins states. That makes perfect sense. You are not "born" into the wrong body. Your body is your body. These people need therapy to learn how to accept what they are and what they were born as. Cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy can be dangerous. Why would you do this to a perfectly physically healthy person? Their problem is psychiatric, like anorexia.

 

[ChrisL]

In order to support the idea that you were born into the "wrong body" then you must believe that there are "male" and "female" brains. ??? Is there any evidence that these people have the "brains" of the opposite gender???

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds

 

[pillars]

I strongly believe that "transgender" is a mental disorder and not a "physical" one. It is pretty much the same as anorexia, as the Chief Psychiatrist at John Hopkins states. That makes perfect sense. You are not "born" into the wrong body. Your body is your body. These people need therapy to learn how to accept what they are and what they were born as. Cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy can be dangerous. Why would you do this to a perfectly physically healthy person? Their problem is psychiatric, like anorexia.

I provided you with information debunking your Chief Psychiatrist. You ignored it.

You aren't interested in objectively looking at the issue, you are interested in confirming your own bias.

Noted.

 

[ChrisL]

I strongly believe that "transgender" is a mental disorder and not a "physical" one. It is pretty much the same as anorexia, as the Chief Psychiatrist at John Hopkins states. That makes perfect sense. You are not "born" into the wrong body. Your body is your body. These people need therapy to learn how to accept what they are and what they were born as. Cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy can be dangerous. Why would you do this to a perfectly physically healthy person? Their problem is psychiatric, like anorexia.

I provided you with information debunking your Chief Psychiatrist. You ignored it.

You aren't interested in objectively looking at the issue, you are interested in confirming your own bias.

Noted.

I don't believe your links because the doctor makes perfect sense, unlike your "ideas." They are just silly! Lol.

 

[strollingbones]

having read off 8 prior pages.....first no one should be forced to live in a body that does not match their mental stage....why do people have such a negative reaction to someone modifying their bodies to suit themselves? we do it all the time....people saying its unnatural to modify need to think about the far reaching way that could be taken.....are we wrong to have corrective surgeries?

hormone blocking .....can be carried to extremes....and does have permanent consequences....this line of doing it now if better for them in the long run....i am not sure about this....i think right now all these fancy doctors may be experimenting with kids...esp the hormone specialist....what doctor doesnt want to be 'ground breaking' in their field and it beats the hell outta dealing with diabetics...

as a parent...my son flew thru stages......at 3 or 4 he picked up a doll and fell in love with her...named her and carried her everywhere he went for maybe a year or more....there was no reason to be upset over that....she would sit in his tonka truck while he build his mall...and the teen years...they are just harder to love.....the piercings....ears and nipples....grumpy began to get a wee bit upset at this stage....and then the goth stage....black finger nail polish and smoking pot in a dark room dressed in black thinking they are unique.....those were hard years ....there were the religious years.....drinking heavy and partying year and half at college....that did not go well......so now he is 20ish and all....suddenly his begins to mature....and begins to settle down.....the piercings are gone......still only the one tattoo....a red dragon...how original ...sorry i digress...easily....

my point being...he is none of those now..they were just weird stages he went thru.....and i as a parent feel its just our duty to get them thru those weird ass stages....without any permanent damage....even when they wanted to do surgery on his shoulder...i declined....it was something that could be put off....so i did....i figure if i have to signed for permission...other than the damned drivers license and minor issues like that......it can wait till he is an adult....17 is not nearly old enough to decide something of this magnitude ....

teenagers tend to be 'trendy' and the worse part...they are grasping with the ability to think abstractly.....not always a good thing...17 is too late for the blockers..and i think in my layman opinion too early for the trans....has he had any surgery...top? i mean this cannot be reversed..

can you not accept him and get him to accept himself for a while......you see accepting as helping him trans.....i think it is way too early...there are not enough long term studies on how people who start this young do....again i think they are victims of doctors trying new things...a lot of the time...

and there is a lot of money in this....the top surgery and the bottom surgery runs 1000s....start with old school and adams apple shave

 

[pillars]

I strongly believe that "transgender" is a mental disorder and not a "physical" one. It is pretty much the same as anorexia, as the Chief Psychiatrist at John Hopkins states. That makes perfect sense. You are not "born" into the wrong body. Your body is your body. These people need therapy to learn how to accept what they are and what they were born as. Cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy can be dangerous. Why would you do this to a perfectly physically healthy person? Their problem is psychiatric, like anorexia.

I provided you with information debunking your Chief Psychiatrist. You ignored it.

You aren't interested in objectively looking at the issue, you are interested in confirming your own bias.

Noted.

I don't believe your links because the doctor makes perfect sense, unlike your "ideas." They are just silly! Lol.

You remain a moron.

 

[ChrisL]

Obviously, transgenderism is a disease of the mind and NOT the body. You are what you are. These people will never be the opposite sex. No amount of plastic surgery, hormones or makeup are going to change your sex. It is unhealthy to make these people believe that it will, very unhealthy and it is feeding into a delusion.

If a MtF transgender person dies and no finds him and the body deteriorate, guess what the medical examiner will determine? It will be determined that he was a male. He has male bone structure, muscle mass, and male internal organs.