'Palestinian'

[rylah]

Palestine had no Jews to speak of in the 16th or 17th century you idiot.

Wrong/Stupid/anti-semitic.. as usual

History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia

"...The 16th-century nevertheless saw a resurgence of Jewish life in Palestine. Palestinian rabbis were instrumental producing a universally accepted manual of Jewish law and some of the most beautiful liturgical poems. Much of this activity occurred at Safed which had become a spiritual centre, a haven for mystics. Joseph Karo's comprehensive guide to Jewish law, the Shulchan Aruch, was considered so authoritative that the variant customs of German-Polish Jewry were merely added as supplement glosses.[125] Some of the most celebrated hymns were written in Safed by poets such as Israel Najara and Solomon Alkabetz.[126] The town was also a centre of Jewish mysticism, notable kabbalists included Moses Cordovero and the German-born Naphtali Hertz ben Jacob Elhanan.[127][ A new method of understanding the kabbalah was developed by Palestinian mystic Isaac Luria, and espoused by his student Chaim Vital. In Safed, the Jews developed a number of branches of trade, especially in grain, spices, textiles and dyeing.

In 1577, a Hebrew printing press was established in Safed. The 8,000 or 10,000 Jews in Safed in 1555 grew to 20,000 or 30,000 by the end of the century.

In around 1563, Joseph Nasi secured permission from Sultan Selim II to acquire Tiberias and seven surrounding villages to create a Jewish city-state. [130] He hoped that large numbers of Jewish refugees and Marranos would settle there, free from fear and oppression; indeed, the persecuted Jews of Cori, Italy, numbering about 200 souls, decided to emigrate to Tiberias.[131] Nasi had the walls of the town rebuilt by 1564 and attempted to turn it into a self-sufficient textile manufacturing center by planting mulberry trees for the cultivation of silk. Nevertheless, a number of factors during the following years contributed to the plan's ultimate failure. Nasi's aunt, Doña Gracia Mendes Nasi supported a yeshiva in the town for many years until her death in 1569.[133]

In 1567, a Yemenite scholar and Rabbi, Zechariah Dhahiri, visited Safed and wrote of his experiences in a book entitled Sefer Ha-Musar. His vivid descriptions of the town Safed and of Rabbi Joseph Karo's yeshiva are of primary importance to historians, seeing that they are a first-hand account of these places, and the only extant account which describes the yeshiva of the great Sephardic Rabbi, Joseph Karo.[134]

In 1576, the Jewish community of Safed faced an expulsion order: 1,000 prosperous families were to be deported to Cyprus, "for the good of the said island", with another 500 the following year.[135] The order was later rescinded due to the realisation of the financial gains of Jewish rental income.[136] In 1586, the Jews of Istanbul agreed to build a fortified khan to provide a refuge for Safed's Jews against "night bandits and armed thieves."[135]
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In 1610, the Yochanan ben Zakai Synagogue in Jerusalem was completed.[137] It became the main synagogue of the Sephardic Jews, the place where their chief rabbi was invested. The adjacent study hall which had been added by 1625 later became the Synagogue of Elijah the Prophet.[137]

In the 1648–1654 Khmelnytsky Uprising in Ukraine over 100,000 Jews were massacred, leading to some migration to Israel. In 1660 (or 1662), the majorly Jewish towns of Safed and Tiberias are destroyed by the Druze, following a power struggle in Galilee.[138][139][140][141][142][143][144].....​

You are nuts. Do you think anyone believes the Hasbara edited Wiki entries regarding Jews and Zionism?

That's just Hasbara propaganda. There were hardly any Jews in Ottoman Palestine until the Zionist invasion. Those that practiced Judaism had converted to Christianity centuries before.

There were thousands of (registered) Jews mainly in Judea Samaria and the Galilee.
Jews were called Palestinians, even by Europeans.

 

[rylah]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

 

[rylah]

Mmm...not so much. Your argument is based on an ex-wikipedia article categorised as in "need of cleaning up" and "lacking reliable references from November 2008", without any supporting data presented History of the Southern Levant

The current Wikipedia article on the Demographic History of Palestine, Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia goes into a lot more detail and is fully referenced.

This article completely contradicts your hypothesis of the Jewish population of the region being anywhere close to 25%. The data is clear that in terms of total population Jewish people comprised at best 3% in the 16th Century which dwindled to around 0.8% in the 17th century. The only parts of Palestine where there was a Jewish population anywhere close to your 25%, could be found in the cities of Tiberias (35% of total households registered) and Safad (28% of otal households registered).

So after centuries of wars and inner struggles in Palestine, the Jews were still present?

Those Palestinian Jews...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

 

[rylah]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

 

[rylah]

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

 

[rylah]

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

Or when You have no significant cultural or historic connection to the land.

So much that You have to wait centuries before a foreign power decides to invent a flag for You...so much for native people.

Palestinians 'became a people' as a result of the occupation- not in spite of it.

 

[abu afak]

Mmm...not so much. Your argument is based on an ex-wikipedia article categorised as in "need of cleaning up" and "lacking reliable references from November 2008", without any supporting data presented History of the Southern Levant
The current Wikipedia article on the Demographic History of Palestine, Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia goes into a lot more detail and is fully referenced.
This article completely contradicts your hypothesis of the Jewish population of the region being anywhere close to 25%. The data is clear that in terms of total population Jewish people comprised at best 3% in the 16th Century which dwindled to around 0.8% in the 17th century. The only parts of Palestine where there was a Jewish population anywhere close to your 25%, could be found in the cities of Tiberias (35% of total households registered) and Safad (28% of otal households registered).

My posts are sourced and Footnoted. Even the one you acknowledge, says the Jews in Safed alone were up to 30,000 of app 200,000 population/15% by 1600, and there were other Jewish areas, and it of course grewe further until 1660...
Completely validating my numbers.

But just using Safed-1600 alone, your Lying number "3%" would make Palestine's population at least 1 Million instead of the 200,000 it was.
It didn't hit 1 Million until 1930!
LOFL Adolph.
That's what JOO HATE does to you Adolph. Makes an obvious Liar.
I Hate Liars like you and Mont el tici (who said there were virtually No Jews), and I'm Porking your Lying asses.
`

 

[montelatici]

You are just posting Hasbara propaganda. There were no Jews to speak of in Palestine until the Zionist invasion. Source documents are great, they show how everything the ZioNazis post is fake news.

"AN INTERIM REPORT​

ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF​

​

PALESTINE,​

​

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.​

AN INTERIM REPORT​

ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.​

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.


The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews."


https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/349B02280A930813052565E90048ED1C

 

[P F Tinmore]

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

Or when You have no significant cultural or historic connection to the land.

So much that You have to wait centuries before a foreign power decides to invent a flag for You...so much for native people.

Palestinians 'became a people' as a result of the occupation- not in spite of it.

The Palestinians became citizens of Palestine in 1924.

 

[Hollie]

Funny You actually think it contradicts my statement...
Or are You saying that a flag of another 10 countries, designed by Britain is unique to Palestine?

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

Or when You have no significant cultural or historic connection to the land.

So much that You have to wait centuries before a foreign power decides to invent a flag for You...so much for native people.

Palestinians 'became a people' as a result of the occupation- not in spite of it.

The Palestinians became citizens of Palestine in 1924.

Citizens of the Magical Kingdom of Disney PallyLand.

 

[Challenger]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Erm...the flag of the Arab revolt was bands of Black Green and White from top to bottom with a Red triangle at the staff end. Flag of the Arab Revolt - Wikipedia

The flag in the photo, although in monochrome, there is no way the bottom band is white, so I think you are mistaken.

 

[Challenger]

Filealestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

File: Palestine-Mandate-Ensign-1927-1948.svg

The British Palestine "national" flag was the blue one

Al Hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag

No, this is a flag of the Arab Revolt, designed by the British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes.
This same flag was used by the Sharif and Emir of Mecca some 21 years before that.
Palestinians don't have their own flag.

Arab revolt flag.

Palestinian flag.

The flag on the Al Hambra is Palestinian. It is black, white, green.

Got there before me, darn it! Another Hasbara fail!

 

[Challenger]

There were thousands of (registered) Jews mainly in Judea Samaria and the Galilee.
Jews were called Palestinians, even by Europeans.

This assertion keeps cropping up time after time, but when I ask for corroborating evidence that this was in fact the case, I get no response; perhaps you can provide contemporary evidence that Jewish immigrants and settlers in Palestine after WW1 were referred to as Palestinians?

 

[Challenger]

Deflection. What I posted is correct.

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

Or when You have no significant cultural or historic connection to the land.

So much that You have to wait centuries before a foreign power decides to invent a flag for You...so much for native people.

Palestinians 'became a people' as a result of the occupation- not in spite of it.

The Palestinians became citizens of Palestine in 1924.

Citizens of the Magical Kingdom of Disney PallyLand.

Another hollow post from Hollie, nothing of substance, moving on...

 

[Challenger]

Mmm...not so much. Your argument is based on an ex-wikipedia article categorised as in "need of cleaning up" and "lacking reliable references from November 2008", without any supporting data presented History of the Southern Levant

The current Wikipedia article on the Demographic History of Palestine, Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia goes into a lot more detail and is fully referenced.

This article completely contradicts your hypothesis of the Jewish population of the region being anywhere close to 25%. The data is clear that in terms of total population Jewish people comprised at best 3% in the 16th Century which dwindled to around 0.8% in the 17th century. The only parts of Palestine where there was a Jewish population anywhere close to your 25%, could be found in the cities of Tiberias (35% of total households registered) and Safad (28% of total households registered).

So after centuries of wars and inner struggles in Palestine, the Jews were still present?

Those Palestinian Jews...

No-one has ever said that judaism was completely eradicated from the region; it's impossible to eradicate an idea. That said, most of the Jewish population in the 16th and 17th Centuries were religious immigrants from Spain and other parts of Europe,so were never actually indigenous then, just like now. The whole Zionist concept of "return" and "redemption" is a just myth used to justify the appropriation of territory.

 

[Hollie]

So a British desined flag is actually a Palestinian flag of a nation claiming to inhabit the land for millenias...and no distinct symbol?

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Shit like that happens when you are born under occupation.

Or when You have no significant cultural or historic connection to the land.

So much that You have to wait centuries before a foreign power decides to invent a flag for You...so much for native people.

Palestinians 'became a people' as a result of the occupation- not in spite of it.

The Palestinians became citizens of Palestine in 1924.

Citizens of the Magical Kingdom of Disney PallyLand.

Another hollow post from Hollie, nothing of substance, moving on...

More pointless taqiyya from the spammer.

 

[Challenger]

Why is everything portrayed as 'palestinian' comes from foreign places and cultures?

Everything "Israeli" comes from places and cultures foreign to Palestine, so what's your point?