Palestine was always Israel

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tick tock

You can stick it where the sun don't shine, up your azzzz
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[watchingfromafar]

Palestine was always Israel

Sweet pee, if telling this to yourself at night helps you get a good night’s sleep, go for it.
It is still a LIE and the nightmares are just around the corner!!!!

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[AzogtheDefiler]

You can stick it where the sun don't shine, up your azzzz
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Just because you enjoy that doesn’t mean others do.

 

[Jay Stone]

Palestine was always Israel

Sweet pee, if telling this to yourself at night helps you get a good night’s sleep, go for it.
It is still a LIE and the nightmares are just around the corner!!!!

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Palestine is simply a Western nickname for Israel.

 

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Palestine is simply a Western nickname for Israel.

You are wrong.
Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed."

Genesis 32:28 - Jacob Wrestles with God

Then the man said, Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed.

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I looked this way and that way, up and down and left to right but no matter how hard I looked no “Israel” could be round.
The truth will set you free
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[watchingfromafar]

There is no such thing as a Jewish “homeland”

Is the land of “Israel” their true ancient homeland?
Promised Land
“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.
Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.”
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab

From there they moved to Egypt
(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

Based on the above the “Promised Land” is not the land the Jews are occupying today. In biblical verse terms the Jews were nomads who were wonderers living off of the land grazing their sheep on the open plains.

Then the question that needs to be asked---

Why does the Israeli’s call the land they live on today their ancestral land?

noun
a native or inhabitant of Palestine.
Also called Palestinian Arab. an Arab formerly living in Palestine who advocates the establishment of an Arab homeland there.
Palestinian Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

Palestine, area of the eastern Mediterranean region, comprising parts of modern Israel and the Palestinian territories of the Gaza Strip (along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea) and the West Bank (west of the Jordan River).

The term Palestine has been associated variously and sometimes controversially with this small region, which some have asserted also includes Jordan. Both the geographic area designated by the name and the political status of it have changed over the course of some three millennia.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,”
Palestine | History, People, & Religion | Britannica

The Palestinian people also referred to as Palestinians or Palestinian Arabs are an ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine continuously over the centuries and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.
Palestinians - Wikipedia

Pal•es•tin•i•an
1. a native or inhabitant of ancient or modern Palestine.
2. an Arab born in Palestine or descended from Arabs of Palestine.

adj.
3. of or pertaining to Palestine or Palestinians.

Palestinians - definition of Palestinians by The Free Dictionary

Also called Ho·ly Land. Biblical name Canaan. an ancient country in southwest Asia, on the east coast of the Mediterranean.
Palestine Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

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[Jay Stone]

You are wrong.
28Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, e because you have truggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed."

Genesis 32:28 - Jacob Wrestles with God

Then the man said, Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed.

biblehub.com

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The truth will set you free
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Land of Israel…

You are wrong.
28Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, e because you have truggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed."

Genesis 32:28 - Jacob Wrestles with God

Then the man said, Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men, and you have prevailed.

biblehub.com

View attachment 657591

The truth will set you free
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Land of Israel, Kingdom of Israel…

 

[Jay Stone]

There is no such thing as a Jewish “homeland”

Is the land of “Israel” their true ancient homeland?
Promised Land
“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.
Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.”
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab

From there they moved to Egypt
(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

Based on the above the “Promised Land” is not the land the Jews are occupying today. In biblical verse terms the Jews were nomads who were wonderers living off of the land grazing their sheep on the open plains.

Then the question that needs to be asked---

Why does the Israeli’s call the land they live on today their ancestral land?

noun
a native or inhabitant of Palestine.
Also called Palestinian Arab. an Arab formerly living in Palestine who advocates the establishment of an Arab homeland there.
Palestinian Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

Palestine, area of the eastern Mediterranean region, comprising parts of modern Israel and the Palestinian territories of the Gaza Strip (along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea) and the West Bank (west of the Jordan River).

The term Palestine has been associated variously and sometimes controversially with this small region, which some have asserted also includes Jordan. Both the geographic area designated by the name and the political status of it have changed over the course of some three millennia.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,”
Palestine | History, People, & Religion | Britannica

The Palestinian people also referred to as Palestinians or Palestinian Arabs are an ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine continuously over the centuries and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.
Palestinians - Wikipedia

Pal•es•tin•i•an
1. a native or inhabitant of ancient or modern Palestine.
2. an Arab born in Palestine or descended from Arabs of Palestine.

adj.
3. of or pertaining to Palestine or Palestinians.

Palestinians - definition of Palestinians by The Free Dictionary

Also called Ho·ly Land. Biblical name Canaan. an ancient country in southwest Asia, on the east coast of the Mediterranean.
Palestine Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

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The word “palestinian” does not appear in any Middle Eastern historical records.

 

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Land of Israel…

bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla
then I farted
Palestine’s Early Roots
Scholars believe the name “Palestine” originally comes from the word “Philistia,” which refers to the Philistines who occupied part of the region in the 12th century B.C.
Palestine
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[Jay Stone]

bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla,bla

then I farted
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Like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The word “palestinian” does not appear in any Middle Eastern historical records.

You are "discussing" with a religious lunatic. Worth it?

 

[surada]

I'll simplify it as Leftists are dumb.

1. The land was called Judea, 12 tribes of Israel. Jerusalem was the capital. This was the case long before Islam was even a thought.
2. Jews won the land by conquest. First by David and then by Joshua.
3. Jews primary opponents were the Philistines.
4. Romans came in and conquered Judea. They renamed the land Palestine as an insult because the Jews biggest historical rival were the Philistines. Are you keeping up? Judea was renamed Palestine. This was 500+ years before Islam. Still keeping up?
5. After multiple conquests of the land from Romans to the Ottoman Empire to the British the Jews retook the land post WW2. Ever see the movie Exodus? It became apparent to the British that it was no longer economically feasible to hold the land. If you didn't see Exodus, you likely saw Avatar. Jews were the blue natives. So Israel is formed in 1947 and Jews and Arabs invited to live there in peace.
6. Arab nations attack Israel in 1948 and get their asses kicked so Israel assumes more land. Still no "Palestine" or "Palestinians"
7. Yassir Arafat, an Egyptian and Jew hater forms the the PLO and starts calling people "Palestinians" this is 1964.
8. You leftist idiots still keeping up? Good. Another war takes place in 1967 and Arabs lose again.
9. Many Jews now live in Israel. Their ancient homeland. Judaism is a religion and a culture. Even those who don't believe in God may be Jews based on blood lines and culture. Yes. The reason we break the glass when we get married is because of the shattering of our homeland and our promise to return, which we did.
10. Israel is the former Judea. NOT PALESTINE. That was an insult given by the conquering Romans. So stop with this bullshit that it was someone else's land. It wasn't. It was always Judea. It was always the Jews homeland. If you want it back then take it by force and see how that works out for you. Oh and the US doesn't give $$ to Israel it gives Israel CREDIT for producing weaponry for Israel that Israel buys from US companies.

Leftists are stupid.

Joshua didn't defeat or expell the Canaanites. The Greeks named it Palestine in 500 BC. The Arabs fought the Ottomans for Palestine. The British gave the European Jews some land. They were called Palestinians by the early 1950s.

 

[surada]

You are "discussing" with a religious lunatic. Worth it?

Greek historian Herodotus called it Syria -Palestine in 500 BC.

 

[surada]

Read your Torah son. Noah was Black.

Noah was a king of Sumer. The Jews borrowed the Gilgamesh myth.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Joshua didn't defeat or expell the Canaanites. The Greeks named it Palestine in 500 BC. The Arabs fought the Ottomans for Palestine. The British gave the European Jews some land. They were called Palestinians by the early 1950s.

I am right and you’re wrong, Islamist.

 

[Indeependent]

Greek historian Herodotus called it Syria -Palestine in 500 BC.

Yawn...

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I am right and you’re wrong, Islamist.

It's almost comical with this thing.

There is a famous piece by King Abdullah letters to America written in 1947 entitled "as the Arabs see the Jews" It contains the usual laundry list of Arab complaints and general sophistry, but do you know what it DIDN'T contain? .....so much as one single reference to a "Palestinian" people.