Oy! Those Crafty Jews!

[AnOrangeCat]

"Before the war, Gaza's population was approximately 2.23 million.

"Following years of conflict, displacement, and casualties, studies estimate the population has declined by about 10.6% (or roughly 254,000 people) to approximately 2.13 million."

Your math is wrong.

Completely wrong.

You can't even subtract correctly.

Serious question...do you have a learning disability?

If the population was 2,230,000 in 2023 and it is 2,130,000 today, then how much did the population decline? 2.23M-2.13M = 100,000, not 254,000.

Now out of those 100,000 deaths, how many were natural deaths (i.e. people dying of old age, sicknesses like cancer and heart disease, and accidents unrelated to the war)? If we are to believe Hamas' death count, there were about 25,000 people who died of natural deaths, which brings the overall death toll down to 75,000 over two years.

Now of those 75,000, how many were Hamas? Let's be generous to Palestinians and say it was half (though it was probably much more than half). So about 37,500 Palestinian civilians died in the whole of the war, over 2 years.

So that's 3%. How is that a genocide or intent of genocide? Shouldn't that % be much bigger? Losing 37K people in two years of war is terrible, yes, but genocide? No. 20,000 people in the US die violent deaths per year, so does that mean there's a genocide happening in the US?

By comparison, Ukraine has lost 69,000 civilians as of May 2026 according to the UN. So is Russia committing genocide in Ukraine because more civilians died there than in Gaza?

 

[georgephillip]

Who was more racist, Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini, or

Chaim Weizmann ?​

Why would that matter today?

Most racists support imperialism and the white supremacist mythology that drives it:

The origins of Zionism and antisemitism

"Consider the fact that Theodor Herzl, known as the founder of Zionism, was an imperialist who greatly admired the despicable British colonizer of Africa, Cecil Rhodes.

"Herzl strived to become a member of the ruling class rather than identifying with poor Jewish people.

"Herzl was, in essence, a class collaborationist and a vehement racist.

"Herzl’s 'dream' of a Jewish homeland was elaborated on by Chaim Weizmann and backed by British imperialists, including 'Christian Zionist' A. J. Balfour, who wanted a permanent European wedge in the region of Islamic nations.

"The 1917 Balfour Declaration, signed by British imperialists, declared Palestine a 'national homeland' for Jewish people.

"This was a cover to bring in Zionist settlers to set up an armed state and forcibly displace hundreds of thousands of Palestinians."

 

[AnOrangeCat]

"Consider the fact that Theodor Herzl, known as the founder of Zionism, was an imperialist who greatly admired the despicable British colonizer of Africa, Cecil Rhodes.

This is always funny to me because the culmination of this was the Arabs fighting the British and Jews in the 1930's-40's while someone else was fighting the British and Jews in the 1930's-40's.

Who was that? Who else was fighting the British and Jews the same time the Arabs were?

 

[markef]

Why would that matter today?

Who was more racist in 1998, Yassar Arafat or Benjamin Netanyahu?

 

[georgephillip]

Ok, but people dying isn't genocide.



Wait, wait, wait...evacuation routes?

Why would there be evacuation routes if there's a genocide?

Wouldn't a genocide mean that there aren't any evacuation routes?

Also, rockets and homicide bombers are literally wide-impact munitions, so that must mean Gazans are committing genocide. If according to you, munitions that explode are "genocide", then aren't rockets genocide? Aren't homicide bombers genocide? Isn't tossing grenades genocide? Palestinians do all three.

"Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip, UN Commission finds​

16 September 2025"

"The Commission has been investigating the events on and since 7 October 2023 for the last two years, and concluded that Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces committed four of the five genocidal acts defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, namely killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the Palestinians in whole or in part, and imposing measures intended to prevent births."

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...itted-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

 

[georgephillip]

How many wars were fought over the land of Judea from 1850 until 1950 and did any property change hands during that time due to the outcome of battles?


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   Judea, also spelled Judaea, is a mountainous region in the Levant, now part of modern Israel and the West Bank, with terrain ranging from the Hebron Hills in the south at 1,020 meters above sea level to the Judaean Desert descending to 400 meters below sea level near the Dead Sea Wikipedia. The region experiences a Mediterranean climate in the west and a desert climate in the east, with semi-arid conditions in between Wikipedia. Major cities include Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Hebron, Jericho, and Gush Etzion Wikipedia. Historically, Judea encompassed the upper hill country, extending from Bethel in the north to Beersheba in the south, including Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Hebron Encyclopedia Britannica.
   
   

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   The name "Judea" derives from Yehudah (Judah), one of Jacob’s sons, and means “land of the Jews” GotQuestions.org. In the Bible, Judea is central to many events, from the era of the judges and kings to the ministry of John the Baptist and Jesus Bible Hub. Key biblical locations include Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, and Jerusalem, the site of his crucifixion and resurrection Bible Hub. The region is repeatedly depicted as a land called to faithfulness, with agriculture, sheep farming, and terraced hillsides forming part of its historical landscape Wikipedia.
   
   

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   Under Roman rule, Judea was a province known as Provincia Iudaea, later renamed Syria Palaestina after the Bar Kokhba revolt (132–136 CE), Wikipedia. In modern times, the term "Judea" is used in Israeli administration to refer to the southern West Bank, often called the "Judea and Samaria Area" Wikipedia. Historically, its borders fluctuated, sometimes including territories of neighboring tribes like Benjamin, Simeon, and Dan Jewish Virtual Library.
   
   

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   Judea is a mountainous, historically rich region that has played a central role in Jewish history, biblical narratives, and regional politics. Its significance spans from the tribal inheritance of Judah, through the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, Persian and Hellenistic periods, Roman administration, and into modern geopolitical contexts, making it a key area for understanding the history and culture of the Jewish people Wikipedia+4.

"Earlier this month, just hours after Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich stripped the planning and construction authority from Hebron’s Palestinian municipality, the implications of the move became clear on the ground when Israeli authorities approved the construction of a new Jewish religious school near the Beit Romano settlement in the heart of the Old City.

"It is the first project in that part of the city authorized without the Palestinian municipality’s knowledge or consent."

Israel strips the Hebron municipality of its planning powers, threatening to further erode the city’s Palestinian identity

 

[AnOrangeCat]

"The Commission has been investigating the events on and since 7 October 2023 for the last two years, and concluded that Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces committed four of the five genocidal acts defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, namely killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the Palestinians in whole or in part, and imposing measures intended to prevent births."

Again, an opinion (re: "determination") not based in objective fact.

Appealing to authority just shows how weak your argument here is.

Also, if they are evacuating people, how is that destruction of Palestinians?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Earlier this month, just hours after Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich stripped the planning and construction authority from Hebron’s Palestinian municipality, the implications of the move became clear on the ground when Israeli authorities approved the construction of a new Jewish religious school near the Beit Romano settlement in the heart of the Old City.

"It is the first project in that part of the city authorized without the Palestinian municipality’s knowledge or consent."

Israel strips the Hebron municipality of its planning powers, threatening to further erode the city’s Palestinian identity

People love levying the charge of apartheid on Israel even though they know that there are 2 million Israeli Arabs who have the same full rights as Israeli Jews.

There is apartheid, but it exists in Palestinian society...it's called Sharia. Sharia is literally and objectively apartheid. Gender-based apartheid (Women can't even pray alongside men), religious based apartheid (Christians and Jews separated from Muslims), and racial apartheid (Afro-Palestinians forced to live in a neighborhood that translates to "slave quarter")

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Gaza's population has been partially destroyed by genocidal Israeli Jews since 7 October 2023:

Google AI Overview

"Before the war, Gaza's population was approximately 2.23 million.

"Following years of conflict, displacement, and casualties, studies estimate the population has declined by about 10.6% (or roughly 254,000 people) to approximately 2.13 million."

This post here sums the whole thing up perfectly.

Stupid, emotional people incapable of even the most basic tasks like subtraction.

Math.

Can't even do math correctly.

Can't spell.

Can't reason.

Can't form complete sentences.

Just vapid, ignorant antisemites.

Not sure how you could even make the mistake of 254,000 people when you subtract 2.13M from 2.23M. In your brain, how do numbers work? If you subtract 1 from 2, do you get 54?

 

[georgephillip]

Deranged barbarians actually believe Israel is wicked for defending itself from genocidal assaults from its neighbors.

Israel is not defending itself by invading and occupying Syria and Lebanon or waging another war of aggression against Iran.

A Jewish state has the same right to exist as White South Africa; how did that experiment with apartheid turn out?

 

[Kruska]

“Murderous Talmudic zeal.” Riiiiiight……no antisemitism from this one.