Overturning Roe Is a Radical, Not Conservative, Choice

[bigrebnc1775]

Marriage is a fundamental right. It existed long before governments existed to oversee it. It was a right bestowed by the created upon the created. And enjoys a historical record older than recorded records.

No it is not. You don't need a license to exercise a right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nobody is killing babies, they are terminating unviable fetuses.

Why was Scott Peterson charged and convicted of two counts of murder?

 

[meaner gene]

And there is a process to change the Constitution.........

And the process begins by attacking the portion of the constitution you consider to be flawed.

 

[westwall]

Starting with that premise, you realize that means those rights the government doesn't explicitly have the power to deny, is an inalienable right that is preserved to the people.

What Rights does the government have the power to deny?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the process begins by attacking the portion of the constitution you consider to be flawed.

LoL

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Starting with that premise, you realize that means those rights the government doesn't explicitly have the power to deny, is an inalienable right that is preserved to the people.

Which government? State or federal?

 

[meaner gene]

You realize that the original constitution is in many way abhorrent to our way of life. It has been 27 times changed to make us a more perfect union.

No it hasn't but try a little harder next time.

Please keep up with history.

The US Constitution has 27 amendments that protect the rights of Americans. Do you know them all?

What all of the 27 amendments to the US constitution are, when they were ratified, and which rights they establish.

www.insider.com

 

[Orangecat]

Overturning Roe is therefore repugnant to conservativism – it is radical, extreme, reckless, and irresponsible.

Killing innocent humans in their first stages of life is repugnant to liberalism.

Yes, it's time to retire the world "conservative" from American politics. Is there anyone left on the right that prefers cautious incremental change?

Yes, it's time to retire the world "liberal" from American politics. Is there anyone on the left that prefers the right to life over the convenience of death?

 

[Coyote]

Yep......we will then have baby killing states, states that limit, but allow baby killing, then states that stop killing babies.......

It really is that simple.

You mean like states that support forced pregnancies...you know, woman gets raped and the state forces her to bear the child against her will? And even rewards the rapists families by allowing them to sue if she tries to cross state lines to get a legal abortion?

 

[meaner gene]

No it is not. You don't need a license to exercise a right.

Government is allowed to monitor without interference with rights. Hence they can require governmental notification of their exercise. Example a fundamental right is the right to reproduce, yet the government requires that when you exercise that right, you give the government notification, so they can keep a record, and issue a certificate of birth.

 

[BluesLegend]

You realize that the Constitution itself says that it's a flawed document

No it does not stop making shit up. Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that. Are you a Democrat? Because they LIE and make shit up all the time, just curious.

 

[2aguy]

Nobody is killing babies, they are terminating unviable fetuses.

They are killing babies....you can hide the truth, but the truth is still the truth.

 

[BackAgain]

The constitution doesn't make any reference to an allegedly fundamental "right to marry" either.

Yet, without any mention at all, it's considered a fundamental right also.

That right already existed.

 

[BluesLegend]

You mean like states that support forced pregnancies...you know, woman gets raped and the state forces her to bear the child against her will? And even rewards the rapists families by allowing them to sue if she tries to cross state lines to get a legal abortion?

That is what .0001% of total abortions right.

 

[BluesLegend]

Nobody is killing babies, they are terminating unviable fetuses.

The baby was alive, then Dems ripped it's limbs off and killed it during an abortion.

 

[2aguy]

You mean like states that support forced pregnancies...you know, woman gets raped and the state forces her to bear the child against her will? And even rewards the rapists families by allowing them to sue if she tries to cross state lines to get a legal abortion?

She can give the baby up for adoption...why is the baby given the death penalty for the actions of the rapist?

 

[meaner gene]

What Rights does the government have the power to deny?

The founding fathers gave the government the power to deprive people of life and liberty for one.

 

[Coyote]

She can give the baby up for adoption...why is the baby given the death penalty for the actions of the rapist?

So you support forced pregnancies on women then.

 

[meaner gene]

No it does not stop making shit up. Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that. Are you a Democrat? Because they LIE and make shit up all the time, just curious.

The 5th Article of the U.S. Constitution

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all...

constitutioncenter.org

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress

 

[meaner gene]

They are killing babies....you can hide the truth, but the truth is still the truth.

They are killing babies in Ukraine, but in the US there is no legal sanction under which that is done, except in self defense.