Over 100 seniors die after receiving flu shot during study

Depends on the docs too. I've had more than a few come unglued when I start asking serious questions. They've reminded me pretty nastily how they've got that degree and all in attempts to shut me up when they were going to use Rod like a f'ing Guinea pig.

I went to an old chiropractor for 30 years before he died in his mid-nineties. I would not go to an MD unless he recommended it. In Ft Worth I found a former Special Forces career medic who is a chiropractor, kinesiologist and acupuncturist. Two years ago I had a chest congestion and a very dry cough that caused me to have Afib. I went to a heart specialist who wanted to give me a prescription for a blood thinner. I researched it and found that it and 2 other brands could cause irreversible fatal internal bleeding. I went to my chiropractor and he just shook his head and told me to take a daily aspirin and to eat chocolate. I followed his advise and haven't had any problems since. I never did trust doctors and never will because they are practicing and they ain't gonna practice on Ol' Hossfly.

Hoss-----old age is a RELATIVE CONTRAINDICATION for anti coag meds. Ariel Sharon
died of intracerebral hemorrhage------he was anti coagulated for ---(I believe) an atrial septal
defect (little hole between the atria----or maybe it was the ventricles) I would have held
off on the anti coag because of AGE -------but it is almost impossible to PREDICT. Aspirin is ALSO
a blood thinner sweetums. Hubby almost dropped dead ------GI bleed from the single
aspirin I told him to take based on his high cholesterol and really significant family history.
You are in very very touchy territory when it comes to using anti coag -----your chiropractor
was right by conincidence. There are OTHER treatments for atrial fib.-------stay under care
At almost 78, my cholesterol is normal, my BP for the past 25 years averages 117/79, temperature avg. is 96.0 and the only defect is a right knee with zero cartilage. That will be corrected soon. The aspirin I take is 81mg. I am a walking picture of health but I am extremely lazy. I like it.
High metabolism is a good thing if you stay in good health and don't get any sidetracks Hoss. One thing you may wanna look at is a Milk Thistle supplement. It helped me after the chemical exposure with the thin skin issues. I figured if it restores the Liver cells it must restore other things too like arteries, lungs, skin, etc...I told my doc my theory and he agreed with me when I was looking for ways to stop dad's internal bleeding. The docs at that hospital that released him to go home and die had given dad six to ten days as they couldn't stop his internal bleeding. Dad waited too long to listen to what I told him he should do. The various herbs stopped the bleeding and gave him another year but if he'd started earlier who knows how many good years he could have had. He was a thirty year cancer survivor that had a 5% chance after second surgery for removal of cancer.
I agree. My chiropractor gives my wife and me supplements that after taking them for a week I can pull up a tall oak tree by the roots.

a TALL OAK TREE? sheeesh are you the JOLLY GREEN GIANT? ----you schlep the oak
tree home complete with a few hundred squirrels? Brunswick stew?
 
From studies Milk Thistle three times a day along with good habits takes six months to fully regenerate the Liver.

wtf is in MILK THISTLE? for that matter-----was it "milk thistle" is that MILK WEED?-------
Actually what is used is the ground up seeds. I buy the whole seed and grind them up in my coffee grinder.
Silybum_marianum
 
From studies Milk Thistle three times a day along with good habits takes six months to fully regenerate the Liver.

wtf is in MILK THISTLE? for that matter-----was it "milk thistle" is that MILK WEED?-------
Actually what is used is the ground up seeds. I buy the whole seed and grind them up in my coffee grinder.
Silybum_marianum
Or you could smoke them.
I can't imagine and don't think I'd like to try it but if you find someone that does that let me know how that works out for them:rofl:.
 
“THESE DATA DO NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR A CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DEATHS AND VACCINATION WITH FLUZONE HIGH-DOSE.”

I have to agree with that statement. However it might be noted that I personally have not taken a flue shot since 1971 because it always seems to give me the flue and does not appear to keep me from getting it again later on. But that might just be me and they never killed me.



LMDAO ,,, a fearful one try again and learn how to read what is in front of you not what you don't want to see can make anything NOT TRUE it is what PRO VACCINERS do DENY until they or thier kid gets fkd up from it then can't sue because why .........Oh I dunno figure it out I already know.

Seems to me that it is you who tend to fall back on foregone conclusions rather than considering what is written.

“NO DEATHS WERE REPORTED WITHIN 28 DAYS POST-VACCINATION.”

Can explain why the deaths didn't occur within the first month or so after vaccination?
Sure I can hear them talking it all over in my mind, "28 days is the cutoff day we will use in this test study as the results for ninety is too much time and too many losses occurred to tell us how bad or good the effects are of this product". GMO testing cut off early too so the tumors that came in after that magical day just simply did not count. What utter bullshit.

Not utter bullshit. Adverse reactions to medications or vaccines are expected to take place within minutes or hours therefor it is unlikely that the deaths reported were directly caused by the vaccine. That does not address adverse reactions other than death.
 
“THESE DATA DO NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR A CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DEATHS AND VACCINATION WITH FLUZONE HIGH-DOSE.”

I have to agree with that statement. However it might be noted that I personally have not taken a flue shot since 1971 because it always seems to give me the flue and does not appear to keep me from getting it again later on. But that might just be me and they never killed me.



LMDAO ,,, a fearful one try again and learn how to read what is in front of you not what you don't want to see can make anything NOT TRUE it is what PRO VACCINERS do DENY until they or thier kid gets fkd up from it then can't sue because why .........Oh I dunno figure it out I already know.

Seems to me that it is you who tend to fall back on foregone conclusions rather than considering what is written.

“NO DEATHS WERE REPORTED WITHIN 28 DAYS POST-VACCINATION.”

Can explain why the deaths didn't occur within the first month or so after vaccination?
Sure I can hear them talking it all over in my mind, "28 days is the cutoff day we will use in this test study as the results for ninety is too much time and too many losses occurred to tell us how bad or good the effects are of this product". GMO testing cut off early too so the tumors that came in after that magical day just simply did not count. What utter bullshit.

Not utter bullshit. Adverse reactions to medications or vaccines are expected to take place within minutes or hours therefor it is unlikely that the deaths reported were directly caused by the vaccine. That does not address adverse reactions other than death.
"Expected to take place" yet they know damn well that they are altering the entire immune system each time they shoot some crap into the body. Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can remain in a human dormant or doing damage internally for how long????
immunoprophylaxis influenza vaccine dna manipulations - Google Search
 
“THESE DATA DO NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR A CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DEATHS AND VACCINATION WITH FLUZONE HIGH-DOSE.”

I have to agree with that statement. However it might be noted that I personally have not taken a flue shot since 1971 because it always seems to give me the flue and does not appear to keep me from getting it again later on. But that might just be me and they never killed me.



LMDAO ,,, a fearful one try again and learn how to read what is in front of you not what you don't want to see can make anything NOT TRUE it is what PRO VACCINERS do DENY until they or thier kid gets fkd up from it then can't sue because why .........Oh I dunno figure it out I already know.

Seems to me that it is you who tend to fall back on foregone conclusions rather than considering what is written.

“NO DEATHS WERE REPORTED WITHIN 28 DAYS POST-VACCINATION.”

Can explain why the deaths didn't occur within the first month or so after vaccination?
Sure I can hear them talking it all over in my mind, "28 days is the cutoff day we will use in this test study as the results for ninety is too much time and too many losses occurred to tell us how bad or good the effects are of this product". GMO testing cut off early too so the tumors that came in after that magical day just simply did not count. What utter bullshit.

Not utter bullshit. Adverse reactions to medications or vaccines are expected to take place within minutes or hours therefor it is unlikely that the deaths reported were directly caused by the vaccine. That does not address adverse reactions other than death.
"Expected to take place" yet they know damn well that they are altering the entire immune system each time they shoot some crap into the body. Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can remain in a human dormant or doing damage internally for how long????
immunoprophylaxis influenza vaccine dna manipulations - Google Search

Of course the immune system is altered. The goal is to improve the individuals immune system by making the person immune to more diseases. Doesn't always work. Sometimes they only partially work or do not work at all. Sometimes they can actually harm instead of help but that is true with most other substances we know about including food water and air. People are all unique individuals that may react in very different ways to the same substance. Be careful what you wish for; if you were to lose the bacteria in your digestive system without replacement you would die quite badly.
In general and overall immunizations have allowed humans to avoid diseases that otherwise would have caused untold pain suffering and death. I consider that a good thing.
 
LMDAO ,,, a fearful one try again and learn how to read what is in front of you not what you don't want to see can make anything NOT TRUE it is what PRO VACCINERS do DENY until they or thier kid gets fkd up from it then can't sue because why .........Oh I dunno figure it out I already know.

Seems to me that it is you who tend to fall back on foregone conclusions rather than considering what is written.

“NO DEATHS WERE REPORTED WITHIN 28 DAYS POST-VACCINATION.”

Can explain why the deaths didn't occur within the first month or so after vaccination?
Sure I can hear them talking it all over in my mind, "28 days is the cutoff day we will use in this test study as the results for ninety is too much time and too many losses occurred to tell us how bad or good the effects are of this product". GMO testing cut off early too so the tumors that came in after that magical day just simply did not count. What utter bullshit.

Not utter bullshit. Adverse reactions to medications or vaccines are expected to take place within minutes or hours therefor it is unlikely that the deaths reported were directly caused by the vaccine. That does not address adverse reactions other than death.
"Expected to take place" yet they know damn well that they are altering the entire immune system each time they shoot some crap into the body. Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can remain in a human dormant or doing damage internally for how long????
immunoprophylaxis influenza vaccine dna manipulations - Google Search

Of course the immune system is altered. The goal is to improve the individuals immune system by making the person immune to more diseases. Doesn't always work. Sometimes they only partially work or do not work at all. Sometimes they can actually harm instead of help but that is true with most other substances we know about including food water and air. People are all unique individuals that may react in very different ways to the same substance. Be careful what you wish for; if you were to lose the bacteria in your digestive system without replacement you would die quite badly.
In general and overall immunizations have allowed humans to avoid diseases that otherwise would have caused untold pain suffering and death. I consider that a good thing.
I consider it a bad thing when people are coerced or forced into being used as guinea pigs and taxpayers are footing the bill for their experiments.
 
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From studies Milk Thistle three times a day along with good habits takes six months to fully regenerate the Liver.
My husband had a liver in failure due to Hep C. He was on the transplant list. Given 18 months to live. I read those Milk Thistle studies. He started taking it, against medical advice. A year later he was taken off the list. He died 12 years later with a fully functioning liver. I will say that every doctor and he had plenty advised against Milk Thistle. It was impossible that something you could get at the grocery store could cure liver failure.

It works.
 
From studies Milk Thistle three times a day along with good habits takes six months to fully regenerate the Liver.
My husband had a liver in failure due to Hep C. He was on the transplant list. Given 18 months to live. I read those Milk Thistle studies. He started taking it, against medical advice. A year later he was taken off the list. He died 12 years later with a fully functioning liver. I will say that every doctor and he had plenty advised against Milk Thistle. It was impossible that something you could get at the grocery store could cure liver failure.

It works.
There are a lot of natural things that work and doctors can be more than agitating as hell when they are either lying, ignorant, or covering for the money end of their profession. Glad to hear your husband gained an extra 12 years. My dad's biggest mistake was not getting a water distillation system when I told him how polluted the water was. It would have cost him less than his phone bill every month and it wasn't like he didn't have it to spend on himself.
 

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