Oral Arguments in Supreme Court Today for Trans in Girls Sports

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I do have a graduate degree in psychology and 30 years experience treating mental illness.

Maybe you need to take a refresher course.

Gender dysmorphism is a mental disorder...

Yes, Gender Dysphoria (GD) is a diagnosable condition listed in the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), but it's crucial to understand it's the distress from the incongruence between one's assigned sex and gender identity, not being transgender itself, which is not a mental disorder. The diagnosis aims to facilitate care, like gender-affirming treatments, and address significant anxiety, depression, or functional impairment, rather than "curing" someone's identity.

Key Distinctions:

• Transgender Identity vs. Gender Dysphoria: Being transgender is a natural variation of gender identity, while gender dysphoria is the clinical distress that can arise from that identity not aligning with one's body or societal expectations
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• • Focus on Distress: The diagnosis highlights the "clinically significant distress" or impairment (e.g., in social, work, or family life) caused by this incongruence, not the identity itself.
  • Treatment Goal: Treatment focuses on alleviating this distress through affirmation, which can involve social, legal, medical (hormones, surgery), or psychological support, to align one's life with their gender identity.

In Summary: Gender dysphoria is a mental health diagnosis to help people access care, but it's the distress, not the identity, that's the disorder.

Transgenderism is sociality contagious mental disorder like, eating disorders, that effects children with a premorbid mental illness such as social anxiety disorder, autism, gay in denial, depression, gender dysmorphism.

No, being transgender is not considered a socially contagious mental disorder; major medical and psychological organizations do not recognize it as such, and recent large studies refute the "social contagion" hypothesis, showing no increased likelihood of teens identifying as trans due to peer influence, though cultural shifts and increased visibility do play a role in people understanding and expressing their gender identity. The idea that it's "contagious" is largely seen as outdated and used to stigmatize transgender individuals, with research instead pointing to increased understanding and acceptance allowing more people to explore their true gender.

Key Points:

• Not a Disorder: Being transgender (gender dysphoria or gender incongruence) is recognized as a variation of human experience, not a mental illness by major health bodies like the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and World Health Organization (WHO).
• "Social Contagion" Debunked: Studies using large datasets found no evidence that social factors or peer influence cause more adolescents to become transgender, debunking claims of rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD).
• Cultural Shifts: Increased visibility, more accepting societal narratives, and access to information allow people to better understand and articulate feelings of being in the "wrong body".
• Stigma & Harm: The "social contagion" idea is considered harmful, used to justify anti-trans legislation, and further stigmatizes transgender and gender-diverse youth, say researchers.

In essence, more people identifying as transgender reflects greater societal understanding and acceptance, not a spreading illness, according to current scientific evidence.

 

[Hafar1014]

Maybe you need to take a refresher course.


Yes, Gender Dysphoria (GD) is a diagnosable condition listed in the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), but it's crucial to understand it's the distress from the incongruence between one's assigned sex and gender identity, not being transgender itself, which is not a mental disorder. The diagnosis aims to facilitate care, like gender-affirming treatments, and address significant anxiety, depression, or functional impairment, rather than "curing" someone's identity.

Key Distinctions:

• Transgender Identity vs. Gender Dysphoria: Being transgender is a natural variation of gender identity, while gender dysphoria is the clinical distress that canarise from that identity not aligning with one's body or societal expectations
  .
• • Focus on Distress: The diagnosis highlights the "clinically significant distress" or impairment (e.g., in social, work, or family life) caused by this incongruence, not the identity itself.
  • Treatment Goal: Treatment focuses on alleviating this distress through affirmation, which can involve social, legal, medical (hormones, surgery), or psychological support, to align one's life with their gender identity.

In Summary: Gender dysphoria is a mental health diagnosis to help people access care, but it's the distress, not the identity, that's the disorder.


No, being transgender is not considered a socially contagious mental disorder; major medical and psychological organizations do not recognize it as such, and recent large studies refute the "social contagion" hypothesis, showing no increased likelihood of teens identifying as trans due to peer influence, though cultural shifts and increased visibility do play a role in people understanding and expressing their gender identity. The idea that it's "contagious" is largely seen as outdated and used to stigmatize transgender individuals, with research instead pointing to increased understanding and acceptance allowing more people to explore their true gender.

Key Points:

• Not a Disorder: Being transgender (gender dysphoria or gender incongruence) is recognized as a variation of human experience, not a mental illness by major health bodies like the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and World Health Organization (WHO).
• "Social Contagion" Debunked: Studies using large datasets found no evidence that social factors or peer influence cause more adolescents to become transgender, debunking claims of rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD).
• Cultural Shifts: Increased visibility, more accepting societal narratives, and access to information allow people to better understand and articulate feelings of being in the "wrong body".
• Stigma & Harm: The "social contagion" idea is considered harmful, used to justify anti-trans legislation, and further stigmatizes transgender and gender-diverse youth, say researchers.

In essence, more people identifying as transgender reflects greater societal understanding and acceptance, not a spreading illness, according to current scientific evidence.

When did you get youre degree in psychology
Swedish follow-up studies on trans individuals, particularly a significant 2011 study, revealed higher rates of mortality (suicide, cardiovascular disease) and persistent psychiatric issues after gender reassignment surgery (GRS) compared to the general population, highlighting needs for better post-surgical care, though other studies show patient satisfaction and stable functioning. Sweden's policies have shifted, now restricting care for minors to exceptional cases while also making legal gender changes easier for teens (16+) with parental consent, sparking debate and ongoing research into long-term outcomes and optimal support for trans and gender-diverse people.
Key Findings from Swedish Studies

• Mortality: A major cohort study found trans individuals had higher all-cause mortality, especially from suicide and cardiovascular disease, after GRS.
• Psychiatric Health: High rates of psychiatric morbidity (excluding gender identity) persisted, emphasizing the need for continuous mental health support.
• Criminality: Male-to-female individuals showed increased risk for violent offenses post-reassignment, though interpretations vary.
• Patient Satisfaction: Despite risks, many patients reported satisfaction with their transition, stable work/relationships, and no regrets, notes a National Institutes of Health (NIH) study.

Recent Policy Shifts

• Care for Minors: Guidelines in 2022 restricted puberty blockers, hormones, and mastectomies for trans youth to rare cases, though access remains possible with long waits.
• Legal Gender Change: A 2023 law allows legal gender change at 16 with parental consent, simplifying the process.

Ongoing Research & Needs

• Sweden is conducting new studies (e.g., the Swedish Gender Dysphoria Study - SKDS) to gather more data on long-term outcomes and the safety/effectiveness of gender-affirming care (GAC).
• There's a recognized need for improved, holistic healthcare and support systems to address the complex needs of trans and gender-diverse individuals, according to a YouTube video about the topic and Swedish Health Services.
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• Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden - PMC

• Conclusions​

  Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
  
  Transsexualism (ICD-10),[1] or gender identity disorder (DSM-IV),[2] is a condition in which a person's gender identity - the sense of being a man or a woman - contradicts his or her bodily sex characteristics. The individual experiences gender dysphoria and desires to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex.
  
  The treatment for transsexualism includes removal of body hair, vocal training, and cross-sex hormonal treatment aimed at making the person's body as congruent with the opposite sex as possible to alleviate the gender dysphoria. Sex reassignment also involves the surgical removal of body parts to make external sexual characteristics resemble those of the opposite sex, so called sex reassignment/confirmation surgery (SRS). This is a unique intervention not only in psychiatry but in all of medicine. The present form of sex reassignment has been practised for more than half a century and is the internationally recognized treatment to ease gender dysphoria in transsexual persons.[3], [4]

 

[ding]

When did you get youre degree in psychology

You aren't arguing with me. You are arguing against the mainstream medical community. I'm just the messenger. If you don't like what google spits out when I fact check you, take it up with google.

 

[Hafar1014]

You aren't arguing with me. You are arguing against the mainstream medical community. I'm just the messenger. If you don't like what google spits out when I fact check you, take it up with google.

Not today Mainstream medicine now opposes gender affirming care and many nations have banned it.

 

[ding]

Not today Mainstream medicine now opposes gender affirming care and many nations have banned it.

No, mainstream medicine does not oppose gender-affirming care. Every major medical association in the United States and worldwide recognizes gender-affirming care as a medically necessary, evidence-based, and often life-saving standard of care for individuals with gender dysphoria.

These organizations oppose legislative efforts to ban or restrict access to gender-affirming care, stating that such interference inserts politics into the private patient-physician relationship and can cause significant harm to transgender and gender-diverse individuals, particularly youth.

Supportive Medical Organizations
A consensus exists among major medical and mental health organizations in support of gender-affirming care, including:

• American Medical Association (AMA)
• American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)
• American Psychiatric Association
• American Psychological Association (APA)
• Endocrine Society
• World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH)

These organizations have established clinical guidelines and standards of care based on decades of research and clinical experience.

Political and Legal Context
While the medical consensus is clear, access to gender-affirming care has become a highly politicized issue, leading to legislative efforts in many U.S. states to ban or restrict this care, especially for minors. These laws have been introduced and passed despite the overwhelming medical evidence, and many are currently facing legal challenges. The U.S. Supreme Court has recently taken up a case, U.S. v. Skrmetti, addressing the constitutionality of these bans.

In short, individual political or governmental bodies may oppose it, but the unified stance of the medical community is firmly in support of gender-affirming care as an essential component of healthcare.

 

[ding]

I do have a graduate degree in psychology and 30 years experience treating mental illness.

Isn't it amazing that you are getting schooled by someone who doesn't?

 

[ding]

Swedish follow-up studies on trans individuals, particularly a significant 2011 study, revealed higher rates of mortality (suicide, cardiovascular disease) and persistent psychiatric issues after gender reassignment surgery (GRS) compared to the general population, highlighting needs for better post-surgical care, though other studies show patient satisfaction and stable functioning. Sweden's policies have shifted, now restricting care for minors to exceptional cases while also making legal gender changes easier for teens (16+) with parental consent, sparking debate and ongoing research into long-term outcomes and optimal support for trans and gender-diverse people.

Sweden allows gender-affirming care, including hormones and surgery, but access, especially for minors, involves strict evaluations and long wait times, with recent legal changes simplifying legal gender change and setting new guidelines for care, making it available but within a tightly regulated, research-focused framework for youth. While core services like hormone therapy and various surgeries are provided at university hospitals, significant hurdles exist, including lengthy assessments requiring living as the affirmed gender for a year, and care for those under 18 is highly restricted, often limited to clinical trials.

Key Aspects of Swedish Gender-Affirming Care:

• Access & Evaluation: Patients need extensive psychiatric evaluations and must live as their affirmed gender for a year (without medical transition) before medical treatments are considered.
• Youth Care Restrictions: Major providers like the Karolinska Institute stopped providing puberty blockers or hormones to under-16s and restricted them for 16-18 year olds outside clinical trials, as noted by SEGM.
• Legal Gender Change: New laws passed in 2024 will simplify legal gender change, allowing it at 16 (with parental/doctor approval) and aiming to reduce the long process.
• Surgical Care: Genital surgeries require approval from the Legal Council at the Swedish Board of Health and Welfare, with restrictions for minors.
• Centralized Services: Care is managed through university hospitals, with specialized units for assessment and treatment, but long waitlists are common.

In Summary: Gender-affirming care exists in Sweden, but the system is cautious, heavily emphasizes psychiatric assessment, and treats care for minors as experimental, requiring specific frameworks and approvals.

 

[Hafar1014]

Sweden allows gender-affirming care, including hormones and surgery, but access, especially for minors, involves strict evaluations and long wait times, with recent legal changes simplifying legal gender change and setting new guidelines for care, making it available but within a tightly regulated, research-focused framework for youth. While core services like hormone therapy and various surgeries are provided at university hospitals, significant hurdles exist, including lengthy assessments requiring living as the affirmed gender for a year, and care for those under 18 is highly restricted, often limited to clinical trials.

Key Aspects of Swedish Gender-Affirming Care:

• Access & Evaluation: Patients need extensive psychiatric evaluations and must live as their affirmed gender for a year (without medical transition) before medical treatments are considered.
• Youth Care Restrictions: Major providers like the Karolinska Institute stopped providing puberty blockers or hormones to under-16s and restricted them for 16-18 year olds outside clinical trials, as noted by SEGM.
• Legal Gender Change: New laws passed in 2024 will simplify legal gender change, allowing it at 16 (with parental/doctor approval) and aiming to reduce the long process.
• Surgical Care: Genital surgeries require approval from the Legal Council at the Swedish Board of Health and Welfare, with restrictions for minors.
• Centralized Services: Care is managed through university hospitals, with specialized units for assessment and treatment, but long waitlists are common.

In Summary: Gender-affirming care exists in Sweden, but the system is cautious, heavily emphasizes psychiatric assessment, and treats care for minors as experimental, requiring specific frameworks and approvals.

Youre an example of toxic empathy

 

[Hafar1014]

Isn't it amazing that you are getting schooled by someone who doesn't?

By you who has no idea education or experience and supports the mutilation of children. You support minor girls who thnk they are boys having their breasts removed.

 

[ding]

Youre an example of toxic empathy

Often times ignorance is insolent.

 

[ding]

By you who has no idea education or experience and supports the mutilation of children. You support minor girls who thnk they are boys having their breasts removed.

You don't know what I support. All you know is that I corrected your errors.

 

[Unkotare]

So a Div 3 school dropped its wrestling team

Pales in comparison to the opportunities Title IX opened to female athletes

So again, screw the male athletes who get run over by this bullshit, right?


And what D3 school are you talking about? It happens to D1 schools as well. None of it matters to you if some inner-city black kid gets screwed over and loses his scholarship and chance to be the first in his family to graduate college. Not as important as your political virtue-signaling.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Which doesn't address any of the points I just made.

Do you have split personalities or do two people share your account?

If in the first case, up your meds. If the second case, one of you is an asshole.

I am sorry you are an amateur educator and know all about how schools work better than someone with 21 years' experience as a teacher and administrator, and another 22 years being educated. Your ***** may hurt but the law stands and you just have to deal with it, like we did. Don't like it? Change the law.

 

[martybegan]

I am sorry you are an amateur educator and know all about how schools work better than someone with 21 years' experience as a teacher and administrator, and another 22 years being educated. Your ***** may hurt but the law stands and you just have to deal with it, like we did. Don't like it? Change the law.

I was a customer of that school. I swear teachers and school admins can be some of the densest ******* people when it comes to not realizing you are providing a service, and your stick in ass attitude pisses people off.

Those men who's wrestling careers were cut short were customers of those schools.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You aren't arguing with me. You are arguing against the mainstream medical community. I'm just the messenger. If you don't like what google spits out when I fact check you, take it up with google.

Where did you get your degree in Google? Was it an online course?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was a customer of that school. I swear teachers and school admins can be some of the densest ******* people when it comes to not realizing you are providing a service, and your stick in ass attitude pisses people off.

Those men who's wrestling careers were cut short were customers of those schools.

They were granted scholarships. That doesn't make them customers, as much as charity cases. If you don't like the product, don't accept the charity and go somewhere else. Take a Midol and go to bed!

 

[martybegan]

They were granted scholarships. That doesn't make them customers, as much as charity cases. If you don't like the product, don't accept the charity and go somewhere else. Take a Midol and go to bed!

Yes it does. They are customers.

Dude, either get off the drugs or up your meds.

 

[rightwinger]

They were granted scholarships. That doesn't make them customers, as much as charity cases. If you don't like the product, don't accept the charity and go somewhere else. Take a Midol and go to bed!

Any athlete is free to transfer to another school if their program is cancelled

Happens all the time

 

[martybegan]

Any athlete is free to transfer to another school if their program is cancelled

Happens all the time

Except with the system wide decrease of programs in these sports, there is higher competition and less scholarship money.

So they were given a choice of keeping their scholarship and giving up their sport, or going to another program and probably not getting a scholarship.

Why do you guys have a mental block against admitting Title IX had casualties as well as beneficiaries?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes it does. They are customers.

Dude, either get off the drugs or up your meds.

FUVM asshole. ******* amateur!