Oral Arguments in Supreme Court Today for Trans in Girls Sports

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Where did you get your degree in Google? Was it an online course?

I don't accept anything blindly. I question everything. The thing you need to realize is that I'm not shooting from the hip. My beliefs are based upon good reasons. So it is much more convenient to use AI to support what I already know. So I especially use AI when I am dealing with idiots who are unreasonable. I'm not going to waste a lot of my time on them. I prefer to skip the fighting and go straight to winning. A bee doesn't spend much time trying to convince a fly that honey tastes better than shit.

 

[Hafar1014]

Sweden allows gender-affirming care, including hormones and surgery, but access, especially for minors, involves strict evaluations and long wait times, with recent legal changes simplifying legal gender change and setting new guidelines for care, making it available but within a tightly regulated, research-focused framework for youth. While core services like hormone therapy and various surgeries are provided at university hospitals, significant hurdles exist, including lengthy assessments requiring living as the affirmed gender for a year, and care for those under 18 is highly restricted, often limited to clinical trials.

Key Aspects of Swedish Gender-Affirming Care:

• Access & Evaluation: Patients need extensive psychiatric evaluations and must live as their affirmed gender for a year (without medical transition) before medical treatments are considered.
• Youth Care Restrictions: Major providers like the Karolinska Institute stopped providing puberty blockers or hormones to under-16s and restricted them for 16-18 year olds outside clinical trials, as noted by SEGM.
• Legal Gender Change: New laws passed in 2024 will simplify legal gender change, allowing it at 16 (with parental/doctor approval) and aiming to reduce the long process.
• Surgical Care: Genital surgeries require approval from the Legal Council at the Swedish Board of Health and Welfare, with restrictions for minors.
• Centralized Services: Care is managed through university hospitals, with specialized units for assessment and treatment, but long waitlists are common.

In Summary: Gender-affirming care exists in Sweden, but the system is cautious, heavily emphasizes psychiatric assessment, and treats care for minors as experimental, requiring specific frameworks and approvals.

Sweden puts brakes on treatments for trans minors

Sweden, the first country to introduce legal gender reassignment, has begun restricting gender reassignment hormone treatments for minors, as it, like many Western countries, grapples with the highly-sensitive…

www.france24.com

Sweden decided in February 2022 to halt hormone therapy for minors except in very rare cases, and in December, the National Board of Health and Welfare said mastectomies for teenage girls wanting to transition should be limited to a research setting.

"The uncertain state of knowledge calls for caution," Board department head Thomas Linden said in a statement in December.

So-called puberty blockers have been used in young teens contemplating gender transition to delay the onset of unwanted physical changes.

Like many other countries, Sweden has seen a sharp rise in cases of gender dysphoria, a condition where a person may experience distress as a result of a mismatch between their biological sex and the gender they identify as.

According to the Board of Health and Welfare, approximately 8,900 people were diagnosed with gender dysphoria in Sweden between 1998 and 2021, in a country of around 10 million.

In 2021 alone, about 820 new cases were registered.

The rising trend in gender dysphoria cases is particularly visible among 13- to 17-year-olds born female © Jonathan NACKSTRAND / AFP

The trend is particularly visible among 13- to 17-year-olds born female, with an increase of 1,500 percent since 2008.

"It used to be a male phenomenon and now there is a strong female over-representation," psychiatrist Mikael Landen, chief physician at Sahlgrenska University Hospital in Gothenburg, told AFP.

Landen, who contributed to the scientific study on which the Board of Health based its decision, said the reasons for this increase remain largely a "mystery".

"Tolerance has been high in Sweden for at least the last 25 years, so you can't say it has changed," he said when asked if it was simply a result of a more accepting society.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I do have a graduate degree in psychology and 30 years experience treating mental illness.
We begin with the science and fact that gender is inherent and cant be changed. If you think it can then explain in detail the process of a man changing into a biological authentic woman.

Transgenderism is sociality contagious mental disorder like, eating disorders, that effects children with a premorbid mental illness such as social anxiety disorder, autism, gay in denial, depression, gender dysmorphism.
This is supported by the severe increase in cases when it was advocated and the severe drop when advocacy was prevented when the administration changed.
Valid research showed gender affirming treatment increased depression and suicide.

Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden - PubMed

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results: The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8-4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8-62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9-8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0-3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

They do respond to family systems psychotherapy

Enabling this disorder as you do is called toxic empathy

And therein lies the problem. While I acknowledge you professional training, you have blinders on when it comes to understanding the complexity of gender identity and the nature of transsexualism.

You’re operating on the premise that everyone is clearly 100% male or female, and ignoring that fact that gender is a complex interaction of biology, psychology and, yes, social construct. For one thing, there is the issue of intersexual people- those who on some level be it genetic, epigenetic, or endocrinological are exist somewhere on a continuum of male to female. The goal of gender affirming care is not to change their gender-but to better align their physical appearance and social status with the dominant gender withing- independent of the gender assigned at birth. Yes you will no doubt come back with statistics on the rarity of actual intersexuality -but I maintain that the majority of such cases are undiagnosed because there is no obvious sexual abnormality such as ambiguous genitalia

I agree that there is a certain amount of social contagion at play, to reduce it to a mental illness and likening it to an eating disorder is not only dumbing it down, but also demeaning to transpeople. The echoes the dominant right wing talking point that they just need to be “cured “ of their delusions while discounting the possibility that it is much more than that The fact is that those who if given adequate support and acceptance can be very high functioning human beings .

As for the linked article, it by no means makes a convincing case that surgical transition, in and of itself, is responsible for unfavorable outcomes . In fact it acknowledges that fact that there is there is a dearth of long term, follow-up studies after sex reassignment.

It also states that the study should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

I will add, that the social stigma and marginalization does not disappear after transitioning By the way , I too have and advanced degree. After my BA in social work, I earned a Masters in Public Policy and Administration. I spent 32 years in child welfare agencies, working with all sorts of people , so I know a few things too,.

 

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Sweden puts brakes on treatments for trans minors

Sweden, the first country to introduce legal gender reassignment, has begun restricting gender reassignment hormone treatments for minors, as it, like many Western countries, grapples with the highly-sensitive…

www.france24.com

Sweden decided in February 2022 to halt hormone therapy for minors except in very rare cases, and in December, the National Board of Health and Welfare said mastectomies for teenage girls wanting to transition should be limited to a research setting.

"The uncertain state of knowledge calls for caution," Board department head Thomas Linden said in a statement in December.

So-called puberty blockers have been used in young teens contemplating gender transition to delay the onset of unwanted physical changes.

Like many other countries, Sweden has seen a sharp rise in cases of gender dysphoria, a condition where a person may experience distress as a result of a mismatch between their biological sex and the gender they identify as.

According to the Board of Health and Welfare, approximately 8,900 people were diagnosed with gender dysphoria in Sweden between 1998 and 2021, in a country of around 10 million.

In 2021 alone, about 820 new cases were registered.

The rising trend in gender dysphoria cases is particularly visible among 13- to 17-year-olds born female © Jonathan NACKSTRAND / AFP

The trend is particularly visible among 13- to 17-year-olds born female, with an increase of 1,500 percent since 2008.

"It used to be a male phenomenon and now there is a strong female over-representation," psychiatrist Mikael Landen, chief physician at Sahlgrenska University Hospital in Gothenburg, told AFP.

Landen, who contributed to the scientific study on which the Board of Health based its decision, said the reasons for this increase remain largely a "mystery".

"Tolerance has been high in Sweden for at least the last 25 years, so you can't say it has changed," he said when asked if it was simply a result of a more accepting society.

I don't care about this as much as you think I care about it.

 

[Lockback]

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That would work better if the cullom on the right were titled MAGA Republicans

 

[Lockback]

That would work better if the cullom on the right were titled MAGA Republicans

No it wouldn't.
And the word is "column".
Clown.

 

[Clipper]

Also, they are trying to move the bar to the point where this shit IS centrist.

I have yet to encounter so much as one, single leftist here with the honesty necessary to admit that they did not support all this tranny nonsense just a few years ago. They are not even self-aware -- just mindless drones all accepting an ever-shifting reality created for them by the elites.

Don't worry. Trump's MAGA majority on SCOTUS will rule in his favor just like they always do. One thing they won't do however is allow Trump to fire Lisa Cook or Jerome Powell & throw Wall St. into turmoil. No, they're not going to allow the big money interests of Wall St to be hurt if they can help it. They're too rich & powerful. But when it comes to SCOTUS protecting consumers, brown people who's civil rights are being assaulted by ICE goons, consumers screwed over by predatory lenders & scam artists, federal workers etc etc? Forget it!

The "elites"? SCOTUS has shown that THEY are the elites every gddam time they rule in favor of Trump & big money interests who are screwing the average citizen over every which way from Sunday.

So keep obsessing over "trans" if it makes you feel better.

 

[Lockback]

Don't worry. Trump's MAGA majority on SCOTUS will rule in his favor just like they always do. One thing they won't do however is allow Trump to fire Lisa Cook or Jerome Powell & throw Wall St. into turmoil. No, they're not going to allow the big money interests of Wall St to be hurt if they can help it. They're too rich & powerful. But when it comes to SCOTUS protecting consumers, brown people who's civil rights are being assaulted by ICE goons, consumers screwed over by predatory lenders & scam artists, federal workers etc etc? Forget it!

The "elites"? SCOTUS has shown that THEY are the elites every gddam time they rule in favor of Trump & big money interests who are screwing the average citizen over every which way from Sunday.

So keep obsessing over "trans" if it makes you feel better.

This screed literally could have been written by Communist Party, USA.
Hilarious bullshit.

 

[Clipper]

This screed literally could have been written by Communist Party, USA.
Hilarious bullshit.

Hurt your feels you moron?

 

[Lockback]

Hurt your feels you moron?

**** no. It made me laugh.
It's so chock full of leftist cliches and bullshit, I almost spit up my dinner.

 

[Clipper]

**** no. It made me laugh.
It's so chock full of leftist cliches and bullshit, I almost spit up my dinner.

To bad you didn't choke on it. Keep stuffing your ignorant yap.

 

[Lockback]

To bad you didn't choke on it. Keep stuffing your ignorant yap.

It should be "Too bad", you ignorant Communist.
Can't even ******* spell.

 

[Clipper]

It should be "Too bad", you ignorant Communist.
Can't even ******* spell.

Awwww, look! The MAGA pansy obsesses ove a mispelled word.

I don't use auto-correct which a GED moron like you relies on.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This screed literally could have been written by Communist Party, USA.
Hilarious bullshit.

The boy is a regular little cliche generator, isn't he?

 

[Lockback]

The boy is a regular little cliche generator, isn't he?

He's generating something, that's for sure.

 

[badbob85037]

This will occur at 10:00 AM ET. I have to believe this will be shot down; that is, the Court will rule that only biological girls should play in girls sports, at least in public schools and universities.

This is a 70/30 issue in the US, which 70% of Americans thinking that trans boys should NOT be allowed in girls sports.

But should the unlikely occur, I told my husband this morning that I will claim I'm 70 years old so I can collect Social Security. Why not? If people can "identify" as the sex they were not born to, why can't I "identify" as 70?

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Poll: Most Americans oppose trans women competing in female sports, including 2 of 3 in Gen Z

Overall, 75% of American adults say trans women shouldn't be allowed to play on female sports teams, per the NBC News Stay Tuned Poll. Gen Z is the most supportive.

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If they won't allow shit throwing monkeys, they shouldn't allow trans.